towne32

edit: nevermind

The Ritty said:

Faithwyn said:

Why?

Why what? lol

It’s not completely clear what this is, but the vague description alludes to it being a massive, enormous, and ambitious series of edits. But the details just suggest ‘no Jar Jar, some splicing of clone war episodes, new crawls, and DVD quality, but maybe just a blueprint’.

Either way, I think it belongs in the fan edit section.

Another JMO banned, I assume http://originaltrilogy.com/user/starkiller-base/id/34185

MalàStrana said:

I know you hate this beak but it’s nothing as offensive as Jedi Rocks, Han’s dodging head or even “No.Noooooooo !”, so yes it was an acceptable change. I won’t mind it getting removed, but I would love the tentacles being animated a better way (the SE tentacles look awful on the other hand…).

I completely agree (aside from the part where you said it was acceptable). Just because some things are much worse doesn’t excuse anything. 😃 We can expect more ridiculous or widely hated changes to be removed. For the beak, I see a relatively large amount of praise (even here) for CGI work that I think is hideous. So it’s a bit of a relief.

New tentacles certainly would be nice for something like Revisited.

Remove the Sarlaac SE beak

Not sure if this was already posted on the revisited website, but it’s news to me. Very happy to hear it.

I know it’s not exactly a challenging change compared to what Adywan does, considering that we have HD versions of the scene now, but a lot of people seem to think that the beak is one of the acceptable parts of the SE (as Adywan seems to think about Dewbacks, for example), so it’s nice confirmation.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Just watched “Empress of Mars” and “Eaters of Light”. I thought they were fantastic. More to the point, these were really classic-style Doctor Who. They looked very much like Tom Baker episodes – slower pacing, multiple story lines, gritty settings with interesting human cultures, the party split up and each wrestling with their own problems, which then come together for the climax. And in a season with many cheesy endings, they both have GREAT endings. Anyone who likes old Doctor Who should enjoy these two episodes!

Yes, they certainly were. And they were a nice bridge after the terrible “Lie of the Land”, leading into an amazing finale. Mark Gatiss is a huge fan of the Pertwee era (he has written some good novels in that era). The bit with Alpha-centauri was a huge throwback to Curse of Peladon. It’s the kind of reference the RTD era stayed far away from, and the Moffat era has embraced. Even though I see how it might be easier to attract and keep new viewers when you’re not totally steeped in the past, and that it’s probably good that Chibnall will apparently take things in a direction away from that, I’ve got to say I enjoy it. And the Christmas Special will be a big last hurrah for that style.

Eaters of the Light was great. Rona Munroe wrote the last story of the old show (Survival), which was a pretty good script very mixed production quality. It would be nice if she kept writing in the Chibnall era.

yotsuya said:

I think what pisses me off the most about this is that no only have these people stolen the hard work of others, but they haven’t even bothered to repackage it as their own. So if the hammer comes down, it will be the ones who put in the work who get hit, not the morons who are causing the problems. The only way I know to combat this is to liberally sprinkle the “fan production - not for sale or rent” (or whatever way you like to put it) in ways that would force all but the laziest to repackage it with their own work (covers and menus) to sell ready made discs.

Very good point. It is lovely to have productions that feel more authentic to us. But there is a reason for the ugly disclaimers. Excluding them from a production makes it a prime target for these scumbags.

yotsuya said:

I think what pisses me off the most about this is that no only have these people stolen the hard work of others, but they haven’t even bothered to repackage it as their own. So if the hammer comes down, it will be the ones who put in the work who get hit, not the morons who are causing the problems. The only way I know to combat this is to liberally sprinkle the “fan production - not for sale or rent” (or whatever way you like to put it) in ways that would force all but the laziest to repackage it with their own work (covers and menus) to sell ready made discs.

Very good point. It is lovely to have productions that feel more authentic to us. But there is a reason for the ugly disclaimers.

MaestroDavros said:

*VidFIRE is actually a combination of many different tools, although the identities of which are kept a “trade secret” of sorts

Well, a secret between Peter Finkleston and Peter Crocker for job security purposes.

That’s officially the most obscure joke I’ve made on this forum.

NeverarGreat said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Legality-fan-edits-and-more-Legality-fan-edits-and-repercussions/id/54551/page/3

This is why we need super explicit instructions on how to get these things and what not to do. If a longtime member of our forum doesn’t know, something needs to change.

Ouch.

That said, I appreciate his mature and thoughtful response to the criticism/shaming.

EBay auctions that don’t have n actual product are against the rules for scam and pyramid selling related reasons. It’s a nice idea though.

People used to sell “how to copy DVDs” guides on eBay. If you bought it, they’d email you a link to DVD decryptor or other free things. EBay was absolutely flooded with this stuff because they could make as many auctions as they wanted with no actual product involved. So even a well-intentioned version of that won’t fly now.

NeverarGreat said:

Running torrents off of your website is a good way to run into legal trouble.

Even though you aren’t hosting the illegal content, hosting the torrent can be bad enough if you’re up against Disney and the MPAA. It’s a really bad idea to make yourself a target like that, in my opinion. And I thought it was a funny Leia misquote.

New people like to complain about how decentralized things are around here. Some people complain because they’re too lazy to figure it out. Others make the reasonable claim that it drives people to places like Ebay.

It’s a reasonable claim that having things a bit decentralized thwarts some of the less technically inclined and probably drives them to ebay. And that having higher visibility (apparently more than a very obvious facebook page) would prevent some of those sales. Others would still buy because they are either lazy or don’t have the internet connection or ability to burn BD-R and make pretty cases.

But I would argue that besides the problems that A) some jackasses are profitting and B) some dumbasses are losing money, the major issue with the ebay sales is their extreme visibility. And when we get newcomers saying that we need to just have a website such as “SWdespecialized.info” or such, with a big red button to download the film, they’re asking for “us” (whomever) to take on that visible and risky role. Drawing too much attention to it all is a bad thing, in my opinion, regardless of whether there’s the extra aspect of profit or not.

I’m sure some people disagree, and will say that we’ve somehow managed to survive despite many articles about these projects in the press. But I don’t think that’s something to take for granted. We’re fortunate that things have been as light-hearted as they have been. If they decide at some point to take the approach of, say, Nintendo (or better yet, Disney with their animated properties in years past), and treat us like complete trash, things are going to change drastically.

Sherman said:

Maybe we could even provide the torrent files on the website?

You registered that domain? You’re braver than I thought.

Yes.

It is probably the two crawls you are seeing. A New Hope vs. just Star Wars.

TV’s Frink said:

towne32 said:

ADR14NAT1ON said:

Thank you, I see your points. My idea is of the program practically impossible but maybe the store could work.

Yes, I’m pretty new, I’ve been a user for only about a couple of months. I love all the things I’ve been able to get thanks to me finding this site and it was all free and not that difficult. I mean I only asked for a MySpleen invite and got it, I guess One has to be lucky.

There are many tutorials in YouTube of how to get fan edits, but I couldn’t find one that mentioned asking for a MySpleen invite. I think it’s the easiest way and normal people should know how it works.

“Normal people” should probably know how to torrent

Really? Obvious incoming joke aside, I don’t know how to torrent, and I’m hardly in the uneducated internet demographic.

Ah. What I mean is, “It’s probably a good idea to make a tutorial for torrenting aimed at normal people.” - with the caveat that such a tutorial should not be made showing the uninformed how they can quickly get myspleen access.

ADR14NAT1ON said:

Thank you, I see your points. My idea is of the program practically impossible but maybe the store could work.

Yes, I’m pretty new, I’ve been a user for only about a couple of months. I love all the things I’ve been able to get thanks to me finding this site and it was all free and not that difficult. I mean I only asked for a MySpleen invite and got it, I guess One has to be lucky.

There are many tutorials in YouTube of how to get fan edits, but I couldn’t find one that mentioned asking for a MySpleen invite. I think it’s the easiest way and normal people should know how it works.

“Normal people” should probably know how to torrent, and how to do so relatively safely. But I do not think myspleen wants to be the default way that normal people find Despecialized. In fact I think they had a problem with us having the invite thread here, which essentially just becomes a means of making users who leech for 2-3 days and never visit again.

I did my share of inviting strangers to spleen, as well as inviting regular OT members. OT members are still registered there and have good ratios. The strangers have 0 bytes uploaded and abandoned their accounts almost instantly once they got what they wanted.

To get way ahead of ourselves, has Adywan said anything about what “Some changes to the Special Edition Mos Eisley content” might mean? I suspect that he will want to make the Dewback by the cantina consistent (as the SE reverts to 1977 Dewback when the gang exists). Perhaps a removal of the mirrored stormtrooper?

Anything that might result in even fewer CG creatures and droids will be a plus for me. 😃

I know the feeling. I am finally starting to get to (but am not quite at) the point where I feel like I can watch the film again. Aside from the constant color critiques that pop into your head, even just knowing precisely what shot follows exactly which shot (even small, non-iconic ones) is enough to kind of ruin the fun in my opinion, as my mind would kind of go to the next shot instead of focusing on what was on the screen. And there was a time where I could have been given every individual shot and assembled them in order without reference.

But glancing at it recently, I’m finally at the point where I would not be able to assemble it like that. Even some short scenes I was slightly off about the order of! Road to recovery…

yotsuya said:

towne32 said:

yotsuya said:

The Doctor Who restoration team had a fantastic frame interpretation process. But if it is one frame, that would be easy enough to do in Photoshop. I looked and I didn’t see it. What is the GOUT frame number?

Still, much easier to do pull that off when emulating a 405-line video tape with an even lower quality 16mm telerecording as your source. Getting an HD film transfer to look as good with automated interpolation is surely trickier?

Actually, a lot of the ones they were working on, particularly the latest two story finds, were full PAL 625 line video telecined at 25 fps to 16 mm film and scanned in full 1080 HD.

Getting off topic, but yes. A minority of 60s episodes from Enemy onwwards (and the find confirmed that it was actually a few episodes earlier than documented!) it was 625 line on 16mm. HD scans are good for cleanup, but it’s still presented as 576i MPEG2. 😃 The point still stands though that in that case they’re trying to make it look like an SD interlaced video and it’s surely more forgiving.

yotsuya said:

The Doctor Who restoration team had a fantastic frame interpretation process. But if it is one frame, that would be easy enough to do in Photoshop. I looked and I didn’t see it. What is the GOUT frame number?

Still, much easier to do pull that off when emulating a 405-line video tape with an even lower quality 16mm telerecording as your source. Getting an HD film transfer to look as good with automated interpolation is surely trickier?

darth_ender said:

I seriously had no idea he’d returned when I made the above post!

http://originaltrilogy.com/user/sithmastersidious/id/33819
Yes, I reported him.

Oh god, he’s back with an obsessive gas attack!

Users like him are funny. The very little effort it would take to not be blatantly obvious and identifiable is the same tiny bit of effort that would result in everyone not hating him and getting banned.

Sock accounts are entirely useless for people like him, negative1, and n64kid, whose lovely personalities shine just a little too brightly.

dahmage said:

oh man, that bluray looks so terrible, and your regrades so wonderful!

Just to nitpick, haven’t we clarified that the blu-ray always looks much more purple and terrible once the frames have been processed in any way? I mean, they still have crappy blue-ish grading, and Dre’s is a million times better. But it doesn’t look as bad as the frame grabs often suggest.

I forget who finally worked this out. Williarob or Neverar maybe? It unfortunately gives a little bit of credit to the pro-SE/PT trolls who have claimed, in the past, that our comparisons exaggerate the BD’s flaws.

doubleofive said:

ladyferry said:

Has anyone posted a full gallery of all the changes yet?

That will come later.

Do you happen to know if there is a changes gallery available for the SD SW Revisited?

JohnStewart said:

You people crack me up. You F* around with copyrighted material then you cry when you see people selling the s*! Just stop, ok you make yourselves look stupid. Maybe if you made the “free” versions easier to get the masses out there would not resort to paying for them. Not to mention it might not be wise to keep brining undo attention to this site as well. I had no problem getting these but to your average non computer person its a pretty difficult task.

You’re a moron.