towne32

kk650 said:

@_,,,^..^,,,_ : I've had a look at all three versions of Star Wars and yes I was right, the retro release is the one that looks most similar to your screencaps.

@Octorox: There is a blanket green tint over ROTS, its pretty subtle though so i'm not surprised that most don't notice it. Annoyingly it seems that imageshack has deleted all my comparison shots, i'll see whether I have the ROTS ones still lying around on my harddisk still.

 Do you know if that green tint was there in the theatrical version? If it's slight, that may be a hard thing to figure out. Wonder if there were DVD screening copies floating around back then.

Harmy said:

OK, although it makes me quite unhappy and I still disagree with most of the arguments against the corners, the backlash from so many people invested in this project makes me even unhappier, so I'm gonna get rid of the corners. It will be quite a lot of work though, so I expect it to push the release a bit.

 That's ridiculously nice of you, Harmy. Sorry that this has screwed with your timing. While I will prefer it with the corners uncropped, the difference wouldn't have bugged me enough to complain in this thread. But the fact that you're going through this trouble for us, and not yourself... I've got to express my gratitude.

Well, so far the tabloids have been a great way to determine what is definitely not happening at all. 

If she's in it, a daughter is far more likely. Or just an extra/alien of some sort like Lucas's daughter.

Harmy said:

OK, I guess I'm gonna have to spell it out :-) The first picture is a comparison between the GOUT and the SE, which means it is a comparison between the ORIGINAL and the SE! The second picture is an HD scan of a 70mm frame from the ORIGINAL version, so while the SE may look better from a certain point of view, it looks that way because it was redone digitally and thus looks nothing like the ORIGINAL version. Now, remind me, which version am I trying to approximate here? ;-)

 I understood! :P Looks great.

http://postimg.org/image/51fdyzaiz/

Wow. A very nice update.

CO said:

darklighter said:

A little rumor roundup:

John Boyega will play a character much like Luke in the OT. He will not be a Jedi, but will be introduced to the greater Star Wars universe. The main plot of the ST will revolve around his character much the same as Luke in the OT.

We have the persistent rumors of Jedi Hunters. The most likely scenario is that Luke Skywalker has at least started to rebuild the Jedi Order. The Jedi Hunters have started hunting down and killing those new Jedi.

Another persistent roumor is the Jedi Hunters are most likely Dark Jedi being led by a single individual bent on destroying the Jedi and building a new Sith Empire.

Most recently the Mandalorians will factor heavily into the ST.

Oh yeah and Tom Cruise will play an Ewok!

NO TOM CRUISE!  I hope this rumor is as false at the N'Sync being in Episode II rumor!!!

I believe they did film several members of N'sync for episode II, just didn't use the footage.

That's a good point. They're very large downloads, so I would sort of like to discuss them a bit before committing to any of them. 

What does TPM look like? Is it less DNR'ed? If it has film grain intact, that would be great. Puppet Yoda, of course. What about the cropping? That was supposedly much improved on blu-ray. Blue tint? (actually, that last question applies to all six)

It sounds like a very cool preservation, although I haven't gotten any of them yet. I'm mostly deciding how many terabytes of SW stuff I want to end up having in my life. :P

edit: I guess it sounds like everything should match the DVD, just in higher resolution.

pittrek said:

Here you can find all found changes done specifically to the 2011 release : http://plus.google.com/photos/102542760950977079734/albums/5647165429128459745?banner=pwa

 He was asking about RoTS. 

It seems the following two differences may be possible, but I don't know for sure (from wikipedia):

edit: also, he said significant. So, the answer is probably no. Also, is it just me or is it impossible to put text *under* a manually added quote box like the one below?

• The scene where Obi-Wan encounters General Grievous on Utapau and the Clone Army arrives has been altered, adding dialogue from the troopers as they land on platform
• The scene transition from Padme's ship to Vader on Mustafar has been changed from a straight cut back to a wipe, restoring the original theatrical release.

kane1138 said:

pittrek said:

The regraded prequels sound interesting. Would somebody upload it to a certain spleen ?

I'm seconding this request.

So far, only the 8gb version of ANH is on the 'spleen.  I would love to see the 16gb versions.

 They're not out yet.

edit: To be more specific, the regraded versions, and "V2" of any sort aren't out. I finally managed to get the 16gb V1 copies, but it seems pointless to upload those now. (but I haven't gotten the prequels, pittrek)

You're right. Not posting that was probably a much better idea than risking the marginal chance of a fake spokesperson.

unamochilla2 said:

How is it confirmed when it says a spokesperson for Disney declined to comment on Johnson's hiring?

Looper" writer-director Rian Johnson will write and direct "Star Wars: Episode VIII" and pen a treatment for Episode IX, a spokesperson for Johnson confirmed to The Times.

Confirmed, btw:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-rian-johnson-star-wars-franchise-writer-directorter-20140620-story.html

FekLeyrTarg said:

Agreed. I also prefer "Lapti Nek" over "Jedi Rocks".But regarding the puppets in Jabba's palace: Despites certain weaknesses, they convinced me more than their CGI-counterparts did. That's one reason why I've requested to see the "Lapti Nek"-footage from the 35mm print.

 I agree, it will be nice to see.

Given that he was going the route of strongly altering the trilogy, it's not surprising that this was a scene George elected to change. What he decided to do with it, however, was pretty ridiculous.

I'll consider it news when the news comes from somewhere besides "The Sun". 

But it won't be surprising. 4-6 months is not unexpected for a broken leg. Hopefully they'll just push back the release date to May.

Ah. Another option might be to not worry about losing the dewback roar. It's off in the distance anyway. Or to look at the various dolby tracks and see if the roar can be excised from there and used in the OOT audio.

Since I just posted something like this, perhaps you're referring to mine as well (I haven't seen "Darth Editous", though).

I must have missed the audio problem. I was mostly making sure it sounded pretty seamless and not jarring. I really don't think I had a "jerk" in audio, in mine. But it is absolutely possible that I cut out a nice bit of musical scoring, which should be avoided. Running time itself is of no concern for me personally, so long as a shot isn't ruined.

I'll take a closer look and see if anything can be done. I would be fine using the original cut, anyway (lifted from Harmy, for my own personal version not necessarily for distribution). But for a semi-specialized, the following sandcrawler shot is really quite nice. That particular wipe effect is not one I've yet figured out how to do well.

Right. And what's going to happen when they look at total number of copies moved? It is going to look the same as the previous month, because we're all doing this with secondary copies anyway.

Disney is of course aware of the fact that there is desire for the unaltered trilogy to be released. It will happen when it is able to happen. Maybe we'll get a Blade Runner type release with every version. I could see them doing some sort of seamless branching for all the SE variations on one disc. Original on another disc in some master platinum set with the PT. And an unaltered only set on the side (perhaps delayed slightly to cash in on the more expensive release). Timed perfectly with ST or spinoff hype, of course.

Has anyone established how Fox's ability to release the unaltered trilogy has or hasn't changed since Lucas sold SW to Disney?

Would they need to seek approval from Disney if they wanted to, now? 

Wolfman said:

towne32 said:

Plus, what that TV Frank guy said.

 Oh no. Now you've done it ! ;-)

 Oh did I not get that right? :D

Anyway, I like the idea in theory. I like the notion of it happening on a massive scale at every Best Buy in the country, so that they start questioning wtf is going on and if they should even stock it.

But I'm not so sure about a few dozen people doing it nation-wide, or even every member of this site. What way would you have to get a more massive base of people involved? Take it somewhere more mainstream and it becomes 'oh look what those crazy SW fans are doing again. Han shot first? Get over it. Lol', with comments like "I dunno I kind of like the new fx lol" or "lol will they let me return just the OT discs so I can keep the newer episodes?"

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Maybe in the newer settings the blue is gone, but the red and green are a bit too much present and noticeable, while in the older settings I haven't noticed too much blue; again, this apply of course to the latest two test clips posted; don't know if there will be any difference in other scenes, but I'd like to watch some Hoth's snow shots, the worst offenders, the ones with the bluest blue snow you could find... is it possible?

 Perhaps you're right. But for ANH, one of the worst "offenders" for off colors is the clip #1 that we just saw. And it looks pretty good to me.

Have you seen the retro release? (his semi v2) Don't you think it's quite similar to the older settings for this classic color scheme?

We... could.

And if there were tens of thousands of people doing this, maybe I would partake.

But does this make sense for members of this site? I imagine not a single person here was "duped". Many here avoided the blu-rays, and those that haven't either wanted the SE's (while still preferring the originals) or shrugged, realizing that it might be the best they ever get.

Are we standing up for people who were actually duped? Why aren't they returning it for themselves? If they actually care, they would have.

Plus, what that TV Frank guy said. Are they supposed to believe that we watched these for two or three years before freeze framing it and thinking "hey, that dinosaur looks awful suspicious. No no no, this isn't right at all!!!". Unless you're suggesting that we all go to best buy, buy new/second copies, and return them in masse to raise awareness. That actually sounds like a neat idea, if there were actually enough people doing it for anyone to care (not likely).

I've talked to kk a bit about the settings via PM. But might as well discuss here too.

I agree about the walls in clip 1. I think that's the main indicator that settings could be a bit too far, and the old settings are "safer" in turn. But I see what he was trying to do, which is remove the last bit of blue 'shine' that was left in the old settings. And I would certainly say he succeeded in doing so. As I said to kk, I really don't like the coloring of Han's face in that second clip in the blu-ray or any revised grading using that source. And when we start removing that ugly blue, we're left with something pretty yellow looking. But in general, I think the flesh tones look good in the new color scheme, but maybe I don't have a great eye for color.

I see why the 'older' settings appeal. But it's very close to the retro coloring, I think. So i we're having two versions, the new settings on classic coloring might be more of a second option. When I see the whole film, the retro coloring may be my favorite if the classic goes overboard too much. Hard to say.

Do you think we could take a look at the closing ceremony? That's another scene I like to look at to get an idea of how green/blue my settings have made things.

.Mac. said:

I have no problem with having different directors for SW, but I guess I am still somewhat surprised that Lucasfilm already decided to hire another director (without first seeing if VII bombs or is successful - hopefully the latter). I'm guessing JJ had told Lucasfilm that he certainly does not want to return for another SW. It really is a daunting task to take on any SW duties these days, that's for sure. Rian is a good choice to take over though, I approve.

That would be my assumption for JJ as well. They're probably not moving on from him after a few weeks of filming otherwise.

Sounds like IX is not confirmed and he's doing a story treatment and they'll see how it goes.

I've seen Lawrence's name attached to VIII and IX writing rumors, but not sure what's doing on.

Have seen people complaining about not having someone else for IX. Obviously, if he bombs, I'll wish that someone else took over. But assuming he doesn't, it will be nice to have consistency, especially with the writing.

Funny tweet from a month ago: http://www.jedinews.co.uk/common/CreateThumbNail.aspx?image=/images/news/articles/rian_j_ep7-8_1.jpg&filetype=jpg&size=800

I've never seen Looper*, but two of the three Breaking Bad episodes he did were fantastic (the other was as good as any season 5 episode, but I don't recall the direction standing out above the others).

*that will soon change. Sounds good.