The extreme nitpickers might be slightly relieved that the TIE zoom in shot as it enters the star destroyer engine has had its zoom effect removed in this trailer.
clutchins said:
towne32 said:
Darth Lucas said:
Given that I'm planning for all the bonus material to be on a separate disc, j am actually considering dropping the branching and seeing how well everything can fit as their own separate thing. I am happy to report that my computer is finally up and running again, so there should be much more coming out of the woodwork for this soon
That'll work fine for doing the two SW crawls. If you want to include all three SEs on another disc, you'll want to figure out branching between 04/11 and then have a separate 97 (I would use Team Blu's for ANH).
I can't remember if he said he was using Harmy for the OT but if that's the case, then the Respecialized might be of better use than just Team Blu. Just spitballing here.
Yeah, it's up to him. I think a big part of preserving the 1997 (for the few who are interested) is getting the color from that actual release.
Darth Lucas said:
Given that I'm planning for all the bonus material to be on a separate disc, j am actually considering dropping the branching and seeing how well everything can fit as their own separate thing. I am happy to report that my computer is finally up and running again, so there should be much more coming out of the woodwork for this soon
That'll work fine for doing the two SW crawls. If you want to include all three SEs on another disc, you'll want to figure out branching between 04/11 and then have a separate 97 (I would use Team Blu's for ANH).
RU.08 said:
Yes I think you can have a higher average so long as the "overlap" parts (each end of each clip) is within the set amount. And I should note I don't know that it's 11 seconds or half of that or double that either, since we're just assuming it pre-loads the clip 11 seconds in advance.
Right, I understand the assumptions. But if it turns out to be true: Is it possible to encode something such that the max bitrate is differently specified for different segments of the same file? Perhaps much fancier encoding software is required (than, say, adobe)? BDInfo spat out the numbers chapter by chapter, and there were no noticeable dips at branching points or in the short m2ts files. But of course if it's only 11 seconds with lower bitrate it would be masked by the average.
I'm mainly asking because if there is indeed a 20mbps max for the entire film, it might actually be preferable to not use branching at all. Assuming one is only creating two versions of Star Wars, for instance, and has no qualms going from BD25 to BD50, a higher bitrate could be used without branching. Obviously, that goes out the window if 3+ branching options, or if the disc was already intended to be a BD50 packed with bonus material. A very inefficient use of space, but it should look better.
^ this was more concise.
Interesting. I think it makes sense to cut off the story rather than require it to be completed in the comics. And in fact, hopefully your series will end more subplots than the TV series did, in general.
I must say I would be impressed if you managed to cut out all of the spider body stuff. But I'm sure it will work well however you do it.
G E Predator said:
"Disney and Lucasfilm do the whole world a disservice by withholding the original version of what will forever be one of the most consequential movies in film history."
Don't hate me, everyone, but I don't think Disney should take any bullets -- or at least not all the bullets -- for Lucasfilm (and more specifically Lucas) for not treating the original trilogy theatricals with the same love and care that we (the fans) do. While Disney does own Lucasfilm, they don't actually run it. They fund the company and distribute new Lucasfilm creations (i.e. "Star Wars Rebels").
I certainly don't hate you for your opinion. Though I also don't think you need to cross-post it.
I've been willing to give Disney a shot. I like some of what they've done and I certainly think the franchise is in better hands than it was with GL. I don't care if they crank up the merchandising and theme parks and cartoons. It's expected that they make money off their investment and secure new generations of fans. Hopefully the 6 films and several TV shows in 6 years turn out decently. It's not impossible that they could really get the public sick of this franchise.
We don't currently know what the deal is with the OOT. If their hands are actually tied or somewhat restricted due to Fox, perhaps they're really on our side. If they actually have no interest (unlikely, IMO), or are respecting Lucas's wishes (unlikely unless contractually obliged), we'll probably find out in time and it would be sucky indeed.
What they haven't done yet is spout BS about what the only real version of the film is, or (lie about) what is technically impossible, tell us that nobody wants the OOT, etc. I think they would like to and it's hopefully a matter of when rather than if.
DrDresaid:
I tried to experiment a bit with color correcting the first reel of the sample -1 shared a few weeks ago. I used a single frame as reference, namely:
http://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/image.axd?picture=/2015/06/35mm-Frame-8228.png
The match was not perfect, but it's not that far off:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137848
Then I used the color correction model on a number of other frames:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137849
You did a good job matching the source, but what exactly is the source? I tried looking for an article and they don't even have any dated June 2015. Hmm.
Offhand, it looks to me a bit like what Harmy did for DeSp 2.5. Corrected to match scans from a print, but the scan it's being matched to might not necessarily be corrected. And like his correction, it's a bit on the green and desaturated side. And also like his, they look pretty good. The deleted sandcrawler shot looks a bit funky, though. As always with my comments on color, this is just biased opinion and I could never claim to know how things are 'supposed' to look.
This is probably getting way ahead of ourselves. But seeing your recent review on fanedit, where someone expressed excitement to later see how you handle the Darth Maul storyline had me thinking. *Do* you plan on including the Maul storyline (with SpiderMaul et al?)
I'm with KatherineJonathon, your post was utterly fantastic, David. But also unique and informative. I think they must be trying to recruit you as an essay writer.
I agree, though. Ex Machina was an excellent film and I'm optimistic for at least two of the TFA stars that I wasn't very familiar with.
That's an interesting thought, RU.08. And it makes sense.
But I've just BDInfo'ed Blade Runner disc 2, and it looks like the average bitrates are around 25Mbps. Is that what you see as well?
I can take a look at Close Encounters later.
As someone not very familiar with anime, are the people making the subs translating the cursing (whereas official translations get cleaned up), or are they making up swears to make it more edgy/adult/whatever?
I do remember Final Fantasy 4 or 5 translation romhacks having some additional cursing. I think that was a mixture of both official and unofficial language.
DrDre said:
It was You_Too who advised me to use NNEDI2, because his tests showed it gives better results than NNEDI3.
I use a laptop with a Intel Core i5-4210U. I don't know what GPU I have.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
You can run that and learn all you never wanted to know about your GPU. It's also useful for monitoring the GPU performance while encoding (or making sure that it *is* being used, and to what extent, when, etc.)
zee944 said:
archimedes said:
I tried v10 on Star Wars SE97.
SR does next to nothing on this source.
However, the colors look very nice on the caps, but it may be just an illusion. Is there general consensus on how it compares to Harmy's colors? Better/worse/just different?
It seemed to do something for LDM's test encodes. But he was somehow using multiple SE97 captures, IIRC.
I think the 97SE colors look quite a bit different from Harmy's colors (especially post-1.0). I don't think there's any consensus for better/worse on anything SW color related. Ever.
He must be busy rotoscoping JarJar into the battle of Hoth.
You're right, I may have made up the DVD part unintentionally.
Also, I think the 40 hours of extras is regarding the 3x bonus DVDs included with the Complete Saga (new artwork). And they do state that they are, again, DVDs. The steelbooks will likely have no bonus material, the six BDs are sold $eparately.
Sounds exciting.
doubleofive said:
I think it's more that it's unlikely that they're going to push a "limited edition" release of the same discs they've been selling, then turn around the next month and sell ANOTHER version of the films before December.
Besides, I'm sure they'll package them together like they did for the GOUT, and probably throw the PT in there so they get maximum money out of it.
Hard to tell. Steelbook cases have always seemed like a niche thing to me. Most people wouldn't care and would buy the cheaper version. But there are some people who are happier throwing more money at something.
We're judging them for asking people to 'double dip' but assuming they would be reluctant to attempt triple+ dips. One potential strategy would be to release the OOT as a set and then later release the ultramegaset, and then the ultramegasetwith7thru9, etc.
I still don't think it's necessarily likely. But trying to wring out the 2011 discs some more isn't quite as clear of a dealbreaker as actually compiling a new set without the OOT.
I think it's yet another sign that we're not likely to get the OOT any time soon. But I don't think I'm much more pessimistic than I was yesterday. The steelbook things are (somewhat) limited edition. For any film, aren't they just a weird release for people who want to spend more money on a case for some reason?
The Complete Saga is just getting new box artwork. So they're definitely trying to rev up sales of their last blu-rays. But it's still not quite as completely hopeless (in the long run) as when/if they release a new set with different discs/extras/transfers or masters that are still SE only.
Troyig88 said:
As a life long fan I have been kick in the teeth so much by LF I do't even care anymore. Unless the are the restored originals I will never buy these films again. I also will not be buying any Disney sh!t.
Yeah. Too used to it for rage. I'll be buying a ticket to see TFA, and I'll buy that on blu-ray. So I'll be happily giving Disney money for that. But otherwise, meh.
Akton said:
Abrams confirms there will be no mention of Midichlorians in TFA:
http://www.slashfilm.com/the-force-awakens-midi-chlorians/
This is a huge relief for me. Since (as the title suggests) the nature of the Force will be a prominent theme in TFA, I was deeply concerned that Midichlorians would have to rear their stupid heads once more, but this proves that Abrams and Kasdan don't feel the least bit constrained by the nonsense established by the PT.
That would have been great, though. Turns out the Empire had been dumping antibiotics in all the water supplies during their reign. Palpatine falls and bam, midichlorians begin infecting people's intestinal linings once again and younglings start cropping up to go to Jedi sleepaway camp just like before. Thus, the Force Awakens.
Darth Id said:
I find nothing even "mildly interesting" about this ill-conceived, aesthetically offensive double-dip of rancidness.
If people decide to double dip and buy a bunch of easily scratched aluminum cased discs for probably twice what they paid last time, they've really got no one to blame but themselves.
pablumatic said:
New steelbook versions of the currently existing blu-rays will be released this year. No new content it seems. Unaltered 4K dreams will remain just that this year.
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-star-wars-saga-to-be-enshrined-in-limited-edition-blu-ray-steelbooks
Yawn.
Very mildly interesting that each case has the 20th Century Fox logo on it, rather than just ANH.
Edit: Regularly mildly interesting that they have decided to drop "Episode _" as a main part of the title. Consistent with what they're doing with TFA.
Mitch said:
TV's Frink said:
UUpodcast said:
AntcuFaalb said:
Mitch said:
No one is going to listen to your podcast with attitude like that. I for sure WILL not pass the word.
This is the podcast of UUpodcast, not TV's Frink or Jetrell Fo. UUpodcast didn't catch an attitude with you.
Thanks.
I have no idea what exactly happened here, but sorry to be the one to host all of this?
This kind of thing happens all the time here, actually, so don't worry about it. One guy who never gets out of this particular subforum does not a forum make.
Yes, and your a saint... Really?
Can you please just give it a rest?
Always interesting to hear from Harmy. This was a nice followup to last week's podcast. Especially since this is the first time I've really heard any details about his job. Seems like it's very fitting work for him.
schorman13 said:
Don't forget that the Tattooine garage scene had some added shots. The shots before and after were trimmed as well, so they would need to be replaced as well.
Those two shots are available on the second disc of the DVD release (I don't remember exactly which video), but they were cropped to 16:9. Those are the only shots that should affect the run time of the theatrical version.
btw, I would love to work on this if Team Negative1 has a scan lying around :)
On my way home today I stopped by a thrift store and happened to see this DVD for $2 (I own the blu-ray, but did not have the DVD or its special features). Noticed on my way out that it was the fullscreen version. Doh. But actually, it turns out that they stuck the same widescreen disc 2 in with all versions. Any idea if the clip is in a documentary or actual deleted scene?
[Team Negative does not, I asked. They hope to do it some day but it's at the very bottom of the list]