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unamochilla2 said:

I would say the original ending would be more appropriate in this case since it didn't imply a celebration across the entire galaxy as we know it, unlike the SE ending (especially when Jar Jar shouts "Wesa free!").  As mentioned, the death of Vader, the Emperor and the destruction of the DSII doesn't mean the war was won.  The destruction of the DS didn't stop the Empire, it just pissed them off and they came back badder than ever and defeated the Rebellion.  I see the original ROTJ ending like the SW ending, the Rebels won the battle, but the war wasn't over as evidenced by ESB.  They had a small celebration for their achievements, but then it was back to business.

 Well what good is logic when you want to complain about everything?

mverta said:

You'd be surprised how many legitimate archival institutions have expressed interest in Legacy.  (Or maybe you wouldn't.)

 Towne32's Legit One Print Archivapalooza is currently accepting prints.

joefavs said:

According to MSW, this showed up on the box of a new miniature game:

A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away . . . .

It is a time of uncertainty. Unrest grips the galaxy as the influence of the First Order spreads, but a glimmer of hope remains in the heroic forces of the Resistance. As they struggle against the dark might of the enemy, these brave heroes may yet awaken the skill and strength needed to forge a new future . . . .

Pretty vague stuff, but it's one of the first official glimpses of the political landscape I've seen.

 It's a total stretch, and not really important, but some are also speculating that the first line is also the first line in the TFA crawl, due to a guess the ANH minigame crawl starting with Period of civil war.

Darth Lucas said:

So I was at D23 this past weekend and attended a small presentation on restorations of Disney films.  After the presentation I was talking to the guy privately and mentioned Star Wars and what the deal is with a possible release and restoration.  His response was "At least for A New Hope, that decision lies entirely with Fox."

Now, this doesn't tell us much, but what it tells me is that an official release IS possible, and that there isn't some detail in the contract put in by Lucas that Disney can never release the original versions as some people on this forum have speculated.  If that was the case this guy wouldn't have even entertained the notion of it.

 Interesting. Was just blabbing about this sort of thing over here. Without throwing that guy in particular under the bus, what kind of role did he have? Someone involved with actual restoration and these kinds of decisions for the company or just a presenter?

Did he have any further comment on the non-A New Hope films?

timdiggerm said:

I think what you're noticing may be described as "an imperfect film made by young filmmakers in the 1970s"?

 Though I haven't seen the 1977 35mm, every version I've seen has inconsistent skin tones. GOUT/Harmy/Blu-ray/1997/etc. It's brought out to varying degrees in different versions, though. I think every version has scenes where skin tones look unnatural. Not always the same scenes, depending on the correction. But I think timdeggerm is probably right and it's inherent in the film for whatever reason.

Fang Zei said:

That's why I'm actually inclined to believe Devin Faraci when he says that Fox doesn't feel comfortable releasing the original versions while George is still alive.

 Watching Disney's celebration of George at D23 (which was a very nice, if incestuous at this point, gesture) had me thinking that there's absolutely no way they're going to release the OOT at this point in time. They're still celebrating and thanking the guy, and they probably will be for some time. 

Watching and reading things that have mostly come from JJ's mouth lately, it has become easy to feel like Lucasfilm and Disney are on our side. Even Kathleen keeps mentions of George fairly brief (generally praising the wonderful universe he has created that they get to explore). Not because they aren't grateful to him. But because they want to avoid the direct questions of "Why don't you respect the prequels and why aren't you using anything from them?" and "Why did you discard and/or set fire to George's VII-IX outlines?".

Disney has chosen good decisions over George's Ego so far. And I'm sure they'll continue to. But if George still sees releasing the OOT as a huge middle finger, I think they'll wait. Not necessarily until he's gone, but perhaps once (if) Disney convinces everyone that the franchise is in excellent hands with VII and so forth. That is, assuming they aren't contractually unable to release it. Could that even be a thing if they own the rights?.

Fang Zei said:

doubleofive said:

This is just a money grab by Fox, it is not representative of Disney's plans.

The press release did mention Disney. Maybe that's only because they own Lucasfilm now?

You have to wonder whether Fox needed Disney's permission at all since the disc content itself hasn't changed, only the packaging and the fact they're being made available individually this time.

 Right. It would be nice to know the details of Fox and Disney's deal regarding home video releases. Lots of speculation, but we really don't know which of them needs to seek the other's approval or how it all works. Can Fox just send a memo to Disney stating "We changed the artwork, prepare yourselves for more dollars." or could Disney say, "We spent all the time and money restoring the original trilogy. Enjoy your cut of the profits for doing nothing. You're welcome."? 

And when it comes to the OOT, obviously we don't know if either or both companies have contracts with George stating what they're allowed to do.

Oldfan said:

I'd be more interested in a version that doesn't look like stop-motion. Great movie almost ruined by the odd choice to mess with the framerate for artistic reasons.

 Honestly didn't notice.

I feel like I only visit this site to ruin movies for myself and see things that cannot be unseen.

pittrek said:

Am I the only one who things your latest pics are too pink?

 The adjustment to Mike's shot? Yes, went a bit too pink.

Another interesting nonsensical color shift on the blu-ray is the door on the Tantive before it's blown open. The walls become much more blue on the shot of the door where the explosion starts, compared to previous nearly identical shots. Presumably the shift was to get the explosion looking how they wanted.

You can imagine reasons for a lot of the color nonsense on the BD. Whenever there are laser blasts, they've got the saturation cranked up (probably to make the lasers look more impressive), and the skin tones look even worse as a result. It's also possible that they really wanted R2's blue color to 'pop', as shots with him present during the droid sale also are tweaked compared to surrounding shots.

TV's Frink said:

regularjoe said:

I look at the franchises as fanfiction. Some of it is quite good (TESB) and most of it is quite bad (everything else, yes that includes ROTJ).

 We look at franchises as fruit.  Some have to be peeled, some washed.

Team Olie

 I'm glad you guys got the band back together.

team_negative1 said:

Status update:

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Reel 3 is nearing completion, has had stabilization, cropping, and flicker removal done. Also, the replacement shots are finished.

It will be the first Reel for getting color correction done.

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Reel 1 will have the replacement shots worked on, and hopefully get completed in a few weeks.

Team Negative1

Any status updates? Would love to see a reel 3 preview, since I don't think we've had any footage from that one IIRC.

Turtle33 said:

Thanks Stinky- that helped.

Imgburn was able to to burn the files, but I got thousands of failures during the verification step. I clicked long enough that it just kept going, logging each error as it went. It got held up at 90%, as every sector was having a problem at that point, and so I just cancelled the whole thing and ejected the disk. Funny thing, it played just fine on my PS3, which was fanastic!

Now....ESB and ROTJ....here I come

thanks again

 Did you make sure the entire thing played? Seems like there could be an issue.

I'm usually too impatient to do the verification as I've never had one fail, though the writing process itself fails from time to time.

unamochilla2 said:

Anchorhead said:

John Doom said:

Back on topic, was it already confirmed that the two protagonists are related to the Skywalkers? I'd like totally new main characters.

 Without last names given to some of them, it's just assumed they are related (unless I've missed a leak or announcement).

I'd like unrelated characters as well.  However, considering we're just coming out of 15 years of indiscriminate story shrinking, a single familial relation is at least a step in the right direction. 

 Kylo Ren is apparently related to someone, too.  There was a rumor last year (?) that he is the son of Han and Leia.

 I've also heard someone say that, since we know this is at least partially a name he made for himself later in life, it is possible that Kylo = sKYwalker + soLO. Little bit of a stretch, but possible.

Odd is putting it mildly. There are frames within shots where the color correction doesn't even match up. Sometimes, it looks like they simply mis-selected their frame range when adjusting the color. The first frame of Leia in her cell before Luke rescues her is one example I recall. Accidentally didn't give it the blue coloring. Perhaps it was an ugly glue frame that just turned out totally different?

The last shot of the film, maybe about 5 frames before the wipe starts, also has a change in grading. As well as during the wipe shortly before, as Luke is exiting his X-wing. Probably a hundred more examples throughout the film.

I remember that ad campaign. It's strange to think of how honest it ended up being. At the time, I just shrugged it off as Disney Vault type nonsense. "Meh, it'll be back in 3-4 years with 'Experience the Original Like Never Before!'". Not quite how it turned out.

New leak of Maz Kanata concept art. 

http://indierevolver.com/2015/08/16/thank-you-all/#jp-carousel-10848

Is that a lightsaber crystal?

DrDre said:

That could indeed have been true. The print coloring probably depended on the type of print stock that was used. The question of course is, whether the green shift was deliberate, or whether age causes the print to become slightly green shifted, and whether the original negative also had this green shift? 

 That is indeed the question. I am guessing that Mike is doing his work with the answer "no" in mind.

also: Ah! What a terrible time for screenshot comparison to be down. Can't see any of the last few posts worth of work!

I believe all the deleted/modified scenes are 480p. Folks like Hal9000 had their fingers crossed that there might be something more in the digital release, but it seems not.

SilverWook said:

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.

 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).

My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

 The first few seasons are even more slow paced and low budget than Trek. It's more as if you're watching a play. They didn't cut or do reshoots unless they really had to (the entire set falls down, an actor curses, etc). So you'll see people slip up on their lines or repeat them, little stumbles here and there, the occasional set wobble. All part of the charm. :)

 Videotape was expensive (one factor in old episodes being erased) and video editing in post really didn't exist yet. It boggles my mind that videotape was sometimes spliced with a razor blade and glued together in the early days.

The behind the scenes stuff on the Hartnell era DVD's makes one appreciate how technically complex some stories were to pull off, essentially doing them like a "live" show.

To think I used to stress out over doing a simple three camera talk show back in college!

 It's true that editing was limited. But things were certainly spliced together and/or reshot. They had occasional on location shots for Hartnell (Dalek Invasion, Reign of Terror). My understanding is that the reshoots didn't happen due to being on an extremely tight time schedule. Setting everything up again took a lot of time, and going over the scheduled end time was extremely expensive. 

As for the non-torrent related questions, you can download imgburn here: http://www.videohelp.com/software/ImgBurn

The above site has a link that says AdFree, so just use that. I believe the other links are valid too, but one needs to be careful to uncheck the other stuff it tries to get you to install.

4.7 gb discs are what you want.

Also, you're right. The DVD5 versions are *not* easy to find on public trackers it seems. I could've sworn I saw them once, but I wouldn't be surprised if they died off.

Tobar said:

The "educational" historical episodes are the worst. I actively find The Gunfighters story offensive, as someone actually from the West. So glad they abandoned that for space adventures.

 Depends. By that point in Season 3, most episodes were pretty bad. I really enjoy the Aztecs, and I think Marco Polo would be good fun. Highlanders seemed interesting and I'd love to see The Massacre.

Spaced Ranger said:

quote from Happycube:

I hacked up a video capture card to work as a direct ADC, then capture the raw RF signal from a test point on the Laserdisc player. ... This is the best direct comparison I could come up with between the X0 and [the] ld-decode (using a CLD-V2800, a rather low end player!): http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/128845

 Perhaps we should just keep waiting on Team XO to deliver. Perhaps the problem is that they have not been paypal'ed enough dollars?

joefavs said:

Oh good God he better not end up writing it. Safety Not Guaranteed was one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

 Not sure if those two sentences are separate thoughts or related, but I don't believe he wrote the script.

unamochilla2 said:

Rian Johnson isn't confirmed to be writing Episode IX, yet?

 I believe he has written an outline at this point, but a script writer has not been announced. 

TK-949 said:

towne32 said:

TK-949 said:


Currently I'm watching Torchwood as well as the first episodes of classic Doctor Who.

 People who don't enjoy classic british TV will probably find the first doctor hard to get through (though that first episode is enjoyable to most fans).

My girlfriend and I are watching classic Star Trek right now, so I'm in the 60s mood anyway. Just after Season 5 of nuWho I watched the wonderful TV movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" which made me curious about classic Doctor Who.

 The first few seasons are even more slow paced and low budget than Trek. It's more as if you're watching a play. They didn't cut or do reshoots unless they really had to (the entire set falls down, an actor curses, etc). So you'll see people slip up on their lines or repeat them, little stumbles here and there, the occasional set wobble. All part of the charm. :)

Running time of ~125 minutes.