Fantastic, but old news. How disappointing đ
Well, the details are new (and interesting, IMO). Was foolish to get hopes up for Phil turning something else over anyway!
Well, indeed, this weekâs announcement was not Web of Fear, but the beginning of the collected classic seasons blu-ray range. First up:
Tom Bakerâs acclaimed first season as the Fourth Doctor, originally aired in 1975/76. With his best friend Sarah Jane Smith and new companion Harry, the Doctor pits his wits against a giant robot, the insect Wirrn, Cybermen, Sontarans and Daleks!
Twenty episodes, specially restored for Blu-Ray and packed with new and old special features. Build your own archive of classic Doctor Who seasons with this six-disc special âlimited edition packagingâ boxset.
Existing Extras
Existing bonus material from the original DVDâsBrand New Bonus Features
Brand new one hour candid interview â âTom Baker in conversationâ
Behind The Sofa â classic clips from season 12 viewed by Tom Baker, Philip Hinchcliffe, Louise Jameson, Janet Fielding, Sarah Sutton and Sadie Miller.
New making-of documentaries for âThe Sontaran Experimentâ and âRevenge of the Cybermenâ
Optional brand new updated special effects for Revenge of the Cybermen
Genesis of the Daleks â omnibus movie version
The Tom Baker Years VHS release on disc for the first time
Production archive material and scripts from the BBC Archives
Some other archive treats to be announced
Also apparently featuring 5.1 audio mixes. Seasons with surviving film negatives will have HD scans done. Studio footage upscaled âin hardware using a motion-compensated Teranex broadcast scalerâ (as, I assume, Shada was).
And itâs hard to say what else, because we donât have the digital copy. The DVD came only a few months later. It had the hand change of the digital version, and no one knows which others.
No one knows about the speeders in the digital, because of course no one would have made note of that (as they did the hand). The dialogue changes would have also likely been noted had they been made by that point.
Steve Roberts said âIt contains two BBC Colour Film labels, two BBC Separate Magnetic Soundtrack labels (one of each as a spare) and two pieces of clear adhesive film to go over them. Itâs to put a Blakes 7 insert film and mag inâ
So yes, just Paul having a laugh at the fans.
Paul has explained it is nothing.
His explanation doesnât really make much sense (i.e., he doesnât show the blue in the can, and why the underground?).
But, he knew what he was doing. As I said in the first post, itâs either good news or heâs intentionally winding us up. We will see on Thursday, when Doctor Who Magazine makes their upcoming DVD announcement.
Web of Fear takes place in the London underground (hence the sign). Also, I am told, the Tardis lands not too far from that stop.
And web 3 was âborrowedâ, Tardis is blue.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PaulVanezis/status/969341855086374912
Paul could be trolling.
Or maybeâŚ
See if you can use this.
Best first post ever.
Is version 3 going to be created using scans of 35mm prints? Or is it derived from the official blu-ray like previous versions?
This project will always have a blu-ray (or highest quality available) backbone.
Ah. So version 3 will have fairly similar colour timing to the previous versions?
The color will be redone as far as I understand. But it will be similar in the sense that it will wonât look like the blu-ray.
Is version 3 going to be created using scans of 35mm prints? Or is it derived from the official blu-ray like previous versions?
This project will always have a blu-ray (or highest quality available) backbone.
I believe there was also an SVCD released by Centropy of this same recording. Would be a much better source to analyze, but I havenât heard of anyone having retained a copy this long.
I apologize for my statements. Tone is impossible to tell online.
Itâs fine. Iâm not familiar with the writing section of the forum, so I donât know what itâs actually like there. But maybe you will find it helpful. I would imagine constructive feedback on writing is what theyâre into.
Last comment on this and then letâs close this topic and move on to making serious suggestions.
Even if anyone were to attempt creating a fanfilm scene like this or for any other edit, itâd cost money in the possible thousands to get/make props, the necessary materials to build a set, filming equipment, a professional crew that knows how to film it the proper way, and getting someone to portray Vader and Admiral Piet.
Taking that into account, do you think itâll be easier for someone whoâs had to ask for donation drives as a last resort? Even though you understandably want your suggestion put out there, it all comes down to if you end up seeing it on the change list on the first page.
Thank you for being the ONLY person who has not attacked my scene.
Yeah, thatâs not what happened.
Thereâs no explanation needed for a lack of response regarding Vaderâs unmasked appearance. If ESB ended with Luke saying, âSure. Iâll join upâ, and then they go out for tea, then yes, some kind of reaction shot (I think a double take, followed by, âBwaaaa?â would be best).
But his concern is entirely on his ailing/dying father at that point, not something superficial like his appearance.
I made this scene quite a few years ago and thought it was a cool concept. The fact that almost all of you have shown it nothing but vitriol in a thread designated to an alternate version of the SEs. You are all hypocrites and should be ashamed of yourselves for thinking that one idea is âsuperfluousâ when the very idea of changing the original versions is something a lot of us see as blasphemy.
Everyone was perfectly nice to you. Especially for this site, and especially for anywhere on the internet. But I guess weâre done with that, now.
I donât know if anything similar has been suggested, yet.
LUKE
But youâll die.
VADER
Nothing can stop that now. Just for once⌠let me look on you with my
own eyes.
âŚ
LEOâs voice
Havenât I always been a good uncle?
LUKE
No. Youâre coming with me. I canât leave you here. Iâve got to save
you.
LEOâs Voice
Come on! Iâm an old man. Iâm confused! Whatâs my name? Will you take me home?
(the joke)
Thereâs no explanation needed for a lack of response regarding Vaderâs unmasked appearance. If ESB ended with Luke saying, âSure. Iâll join upâ, and then they go out for tea, then yes, some kind of reaction shot (I think a double take, followed by, âBwaaaa?â would be best).
But his concern is entirely on his ailing/dying father at that point, not something superficial like his appearance.
Maybe a bit extreme but I do like the idea of telling the whole plot.
I think my end credit idea is a bit much. But I do like the crawl basically taking us to the final shot. And then maybe just a, âPreviouslyâ caption on whatever you do next.
In any case, youâd need a good way to end the gag.
Still struggling to come up with a good crawl idea (anyone got something please speak up). But this was fun to see.
Keep the real crawl, itself.
And then keep it going, and going. Tell the entire plot of the film. Maybe 3x longer than normal (or even longer). Pan down from the star field, through a bit of atmosphere, and onto the closing shot of the film. Iris wipe to the end credits.
Show a bit of credits, run them off the screen and pan down from those stars to however Revenge of the Sith actually starts.
(Can you tell I watched too much Monty Python, growing up?)
You could have all just said something constructive instead of destructive about my scene idea. Itâs much easier to be kind than it is to not be kind.
For the most part, people are just commenting about how itâs not at all appropriate for this kind of edit. As for the content, I only skimmed it.
The first question you got was: why? Do you think this adds to the film, aside from putting your stamp on it perhaps?
The second was: how? No one here, on any project that Iâm aware of, is filming entire scenes of the original trilogy to this extent, with new voice work of main, existing characters and everything. This is well outside of the technical scope of every ambitious project on the site, and it doesnât even seem to have a clear reason for being made, from what youâve said.
But I think the most appropriate place here for that kind of thing is probably indeed the script writing and re-writing area. Maybe people could have been more polite (I didnât think anything was that bad), but no one in this thread should probably be giving you feedback on the writing itself, anyway. Constructive, destructive, or otherwise.
I find it kinda sad that so many OT members have been banned needlessly.
I think itâs possible that you have no idea who that guy was. He was given a million warnings and harassed Adywan endlessly.
Yeah he posted in the Army of Darkness versions thread about the same thing JMO filled my fanedit thread with, among the other consistencies.
I love when he makes a new account and immediately demands Jay and Silent Bob related material. I mean, I appreciate some of Kevin Smithâs stuff, but there is exactly one person on the planet begging for a preservation of theatrical color timing of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. đ
No need for him to report until there is something to report
You mean report that heâs probably a JMO sock? đ
Yeah, look at his other day one comments.
I have included a slightly editorialized version of The Empire Strikes Backâs audio which keeps Lukeâs line, "Youâre lucky you donât taste very good,â and removes his scream as he falls through the Cloud City shaft. For many, these are the two elements of the 1997 mix of Empire that are not easily stomached.
This alternate version is labelled as âCustom Versionâ and the version without these editorial changes is labelled as ââ97 Purist Version.â (Purist in the sense that it does not take the liberty of deviating from the 1997 mix in these two instances when nothing visual prompts it.)
Interesting project! What is the status of the âBring my shuttleâ vs. âAlert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrivalâ line in this project? Thatâs something else that I might expect to vary in a purist vs. custom version, though I suspect few would complain if both versions had âBring my shuttleâ.
You have to re-encode, so some information will be lost. The best you can do is give it as good of an encoding as you can (high bit rate, 2 pass, etc).
Or, you could wait for Adywan to release his blu-ray version, whenever that might be.
I like the second idea. Or even, as the very first words out of their mouths toward each other (cuts indicated by []):
Darth Vader [] betrayed and murdered your father.
You told me Vader betrayed and murdered my father.
Your father [] became Darth Vader. Your father [] betrayed and murdered your father. So what I have told you was true⌠from a certain point of view.
Edit: Followup (wrong thread) -
Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.
I know, father.
No. I am yo-
I KNOW, I KNOW! [from R2 X-wing scene]
