The funny thing about KatS is that their comeback album was waaaaay better than any of their older stuff. You don't often see that with bands.
CP3S said:
SilverWook said:
timdiggerm said:
SilverWook said:
Shinzon
Sorry about that. It was too soon for another evil bald guy in a Trek movie anyway! Not to mention a big creepy all black spaceship right out of a Disaster Area concert. ;)
I may be responsible, I've been calling Nero and the Romulans Shinzon and the Remans just for kicks on account of their similarities.
And they're both such great band names!
SilverWook said:
Shinzon
You_Too said:
CatBus said:
We need You_Too.
You need me?
In fact, Harmy Film © has just released their latest movie, "Episode VI Despecialized - In space no one can hear you scream NOOOO"
Here's the opening screen:
I'm confused, YT. Normally your color corrections are so good, but this one looks pretty bad to my eyes. I'll admit that my monitor isn't professionally calibrated, but I think you've gone too far with the yellows here.
005, any chance you could make a shot-by-shot comparison gallery to show all the ways that Harmy altered Ridley Scott's original vision?
No, I'm pretty sure Cookies isn't the right font. Or, if it is, there was some heavy customization done to it back then. Here's a comparison I've made; Cookies is in grey. 
Recreated logos? Sounds like we're getting into Star Wars Preservationist Preservation!
DuracellEnergizer said:
I really need to see the original series. Rubber foreheads aside, this sounds like a fun series worth watching.
You're more likely to get really cheesy 1960s sets.
Warbler said:
timdiggerm said:
Warbler said:
SilverWook said:
Warbler said:
the only real problem I had with the 2009 movie was the Spock/Uhura relationship. It seems very out of character for a logical and unemotional Vulcan.
Half Vulcan.
again with the half Vulcan stuff. From what I know, Vulcans naturally have emotions. They become logical and unemotional through training and discipline. Therefore, since Spock when through the training and discipline, the fact that he is half human is meaningless.
On the biological level, it may or may not be important. But on the psychological level, it is. He's always known that he's half-human, and thus has some amount of curiosity about his emotions, given that one of his parents doesn't repress. He wants to repress like other Vulcans... but sometimes he wonders.
but would he really wonder to the point of having a romantic relationship?
Well that's the question, isn't it?
timdiggerm said:
SilverWook said:
Uhura was flirting with Spock in "The Man Trap". That scene was cut from syndication prints for decades.
true, but they never ended up in a relationship.
And Vulcan was never destroyed either. This right here is an alternate timeline. The attraction is there, as the characters are mostly still themselves, but differing events result in differing outcomes.
the relationship with Uhura clearly started before Vulcan was destroyed. I also somehow don't see how the destruction of Vulcan would cause Spock to abandon his Vulcan heritage of logic by having a romantic relationship. If anything, I think the destruction of Vulcan would do the opposite. I would think the destruction of Vulcan would make Spock to want to be more Vulcan then ever before. He'd be one of the few Vulcans left, and he'd want the Vulcan heritage culture preserved.
Yes, I can see how the differing timeline can cause Spock to be different, but is this the Spock we really want? A Spock that would engage in romance? I'm sorry I but I prefer the original Spock. I like my Spock logical and and unemotional.
I'm not saying that the destruction of Vulcan caused any of this. As soon as the Romulans show up and destroy the Kelvin, the universe starts to differ. That was my only point here.
timdiggerm said:
SilverWook said:
Spock seemed kind of emotional, and even smiled in "The Cage".
at that time, they were still developing the character.
Clearly you've never run into the fans who rationalize every bizarre inconsistency in TOS into canon. I can talk about this if you want.
please do.
So, in TOS, the crew of the Enterprise is shown as having that Delta-Swoosh on their shirts, and other Federation (if a particular episode is even using that term) crews have different emblems. Cut tot the movies, a decade later, and that delta-swoosh is everywhere. In fact, it's the logo of all Starfleet. Now, one could suppose that this was the new canon, as it makes a lot of sense for all Starfleet to have one logo, and TOS's inconsistencies are to be ignored... or you could suppose that all Starfleet decided to adopt the Enterprise's emblem. For some reason, the latter is considered canon.
In Trek09, in the opening sequence, we see the USS Kelvin, before any timeline-changes take place, existing in (until the Romulans appear) the same timeline as TOS. And the crew of the Kelvin have on their shirts... The Delta-Swoosh. Now, one could suppose that they're finally going the logical route and deciding that was always Starfleet's logo and TOS is just an early inconsistency (see: Spock's emotions in The Cage?)... or you could claim that the Kelvin's emblem was passed on to the Enterprise for whatever reason in TOS and was made the emblem of all Starfleet a bit earlier in the new timeline, in memory of its destruction, blah blah blah blah blah...
Guess which one I've actually seen argued?
Bingowings said:
They are just stuffy Victorian dads with pointy ears and bad hair cuts who allow themselves to go on a murderous rampage every eight years of the long adult life.
This might be the first time I've ever agreed with Bingo.
Warbler said:
SilverWook said:
Warbler said:
the only real problem I had with the 2009 movie was the Spock/Uhura relationship. It seems very out of character for a logical and unemotional Vulcan.
Half Vulcan.
again with the half Vulcan stuff. From what I know, Vulcans naturally have emotions. They become logical and unemotional through training and discipline. Therefore, since Spock when through the training and discipline, the fact that he is half human is meaningless.
On the biological level, it may or may not be important. But on the psychological level, it is. He's always known that he's half-human, and thus has some amount of curiosity about his emotions, given that one of his parents doesn't repress. He wants to repress like other Vulcans... but sometimes he wonders.
SilverWook said:
And having a thing for human females runs in the family.
I presume you were talking about Spock's father, Sarek. Him being married human was explained. Sarek was an ambassador, marrying a human allowed him to learn and understand them better. It was logical.
Legit point.
SilverWook said:
Uhura was flirting with Spock in "The Man Trap". That scene was cut from syndication prints for decades.
true, but they never ended up in a relationship.
And Vulcan was never destroyed either. This right here is an alternate timeline. The attraction is there, as the characters are mostly still themselves, but differing events result in differing outcomes.
SilverWook said:
Spock seemed kind of emotional, and even smiled in "The Cage".
at that time, they were still developing the character.
Clearly you've never run into the fans who rationalize every bizarre inconsistency in TOS into canon. I can talk about this if you want.
SilverWook said:
He has never been an unemotional character. He's just pretty good at concealing his emotions most of the time. That internal struggle with his human half is one thing that makes him more interesting.
true, but wouldn't concealing his emotions also mean concealing any feelings he has for women?
Yeah, if he was a good Vulcan.
SilverWook said:
A plot point that is sometimes overlooked in TMP is Spock's realization after his mind meld with V'Ger. "Logic is not enough." In this new timeline, he may have had that epiphany sooner.
sorry not buying it. And even have TMP, Spock never had a relationship.
To me it just doesn't make sense to have him acting logical and unemotional, but then go have this romantic relationship with Uhura.
As much as I see where you're coming from, I think it works.
DuracellEnergizer said:
I probably will never see this reboot. I can't stand Zachary Quinto.
I would give it a try. If it turns out that you really can't stand it, then fine...but at least get as far as Nimoy's first scene.
scallions said:
For some reason when I burned this it was grainy and a little blurry.
Can anyone trade with me so I can get hammy's despecialized set?
When you burn an image to disc, you're burning the exact same bits, 0s and 1s, as everyone else. So, someone else's copy shouldn't matter.
Scofield: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Scofield-version-SW-theater-recording/topic/14077/
DARTH SLIM said:
, , .
I don't know if there's any way to tell you this without sounding sarcastic, because any attempt to say "I'm not sarcastic!" sounds like sarcasm, but...
Thank you for using these! :)
TV's Frink said:
DARTH SLIM said:
the full Darth Vader rig lucky beep's life's just not fair lol
I...what?
Yeah, let me parse that for you
DARTH SLIM said:
yeah defo on that i spent most of my younger years fuming over the fact that my much older cousins won a competition and got to meet David Prowse in the full Darth Vader rig lucky beep's life's just not fair lol
TRANSLATING...
DARTH SLIM meant:
Yeah, I really know what you mean there. I spend most of my younger years fuming over the fact that my much older cousin won a competition and got to meet David Prowse in full Darth Vader costume. That lucky [obscenity]. Life's just not fair. haha
I changed some of the wording for clarity, but really all he needs to do is use punctuation to delimit sentences.
That is indeed part of why many of us don't bother.
I believe it's pretty well established that he wants to bring order and peace to the galaxy.
Later, he wants to hang out with his son.
Can't we all agree she's much better looking in ESB?
Bingowings said:
YODA : Your weapons, you don't need them.
You know, this tells us nothing about how Yoda feels about weapons. There was nothing physically dangerous in the cave, only visions, so of course Luke doesn't need any weapons.
Bingowings said:
The Empire likes to be colour free (sometimes a hint of blue) but the good guys have always had a splash of colour about them.
I personally think it would make more sense to keep the colour but make Anakin's ship the same colour as Kenobi's as they both seem to be in the same squadron.
Yup, this makes the most sense.
Provide us with the source files?
Harmy said:
I forgive you for Avatar now
Is there a different thread where I can read about why you didn't like Avatar?
mrbenja0618 said:
doubleofive said:
I think it comes down to that in ANH and ESB we're following basically the "white human" cell of the Rebellion. In RotJ all of the cells combine to make a united front to attack the DS2. That's the impression I get.
That's also the impression I got. Because you see nothing but humans until ROTJ. Then you have the fish, and then that weird co-pilot with Lando... Honestly, now that you mention it, there weren't enough aliens represented!
More Pruneface in ROTJ:R! Pruneface! Pruneface!
...Oh wow. I saw the comments and I thought "How bad could it be?"
but it was worse.
doubleofive said:
Without doing anything to them, it wouldn't be right to put them on there. You can buy the official Blu-rays if you want the deleted scenes.
Well obviously.
I think there are a lot of people who would like to be able to download Harmy's DE 2.0 and burn it to a disc and replace the ANH Bluray on their shelf. They wish it was a replacement for the official releases, with commentaries, special features, and deleted scenes, like an official release. Obviously that's not what's going to happen, but that desire exists, and it's pretty understandable. People don't want to have to fish around in the closet for a disc they wish they didn't legally need to own in an astoundingly ugly case just to see what (in an ideal world) should be on the same disc as OOT.
And yes, that would mean cleaning up the deleted scenes.
