timdiggerm

doubleofive said:

StarkillerAG said:

Am I the only one who thought the replies sounded a bit sarcastic before actually watching the video? Like, I thought Ady added a ronto walking across the screen or something like that. 😉

Dammit, Ady, we should have waited until April 1st!

It would’ve good to hype it up. Behold the amazing visual effects. You won’t believe your eyes.

and then it’s just like…a pillar.

adywan said:

“Red R2” issue now fixed 😃

https://youtu.be/Vg5hg6SispQ

Oh my gosh that’s amazing. That’s awesome!

Ronster said:

Yeah that shot is rear projection but the planet does not look like Aldetaan. And that is the reason people keep changing it and disliking it It’s totally different. Some old slide projector probably with only 1 slide loaded. I can’t imagine some cassete loaded animation on this considering crew members were shouting “Bang!” This was more likely some sort of aide for the actors nothing more.

No, they would not bother with a rear projection if they were going to replace it later - that would be very difficult/impossible in the days of optical compositing.

adywan said:

timdiggerm said:

Why did you make the second sun more round in the sunset? Being so low, it ought to be elliptical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction

It’s the same height to the horizon as it would be in the previous shot, with it being only a couple of seconds after that one. I matched both the suns to their previous state. Both suns wouldn’t be so elliptical as they are in the original version.

Personally I’d keep the original close up and fix the previous shot to match, but fair enough either way. Thanks for explaining.

Telion said:

timdiggerm said:

Why did you make the second sun more round in the sunset? Being so low, it ought to be elliptical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction

Also, I’m not sure the red Artoo recolor is a good idea. I know why you’ve done it, but it looks so similar to Artoo (because, of course, it is) that it’s really distracting. Better to allow the viewer’s eye to focus where it ought (Luke & Obiwan) than to fix a minor issue.

I must atmist I found (not) R2 distracting in that shot, I replayed it a couple of time to understand what had been done. While it does fix that small blocking issue, I’ve gotta say it doesnt feel like its had the right affect. I know its a finished shot so I get its probably something you don’t want to go back to, but if you do, you could try chaning the (not) R2 to a different coloured unit. Like seen in earlier shots. There is one with a black Body and white panels I think, and another that is yellow. But as it stands the chome dome, and white body just screems R2-D2 even if the pannels are red. The only other thing I can think of is to keep (new) R2-D2 in frame a little longer so you have time to spot him.

It’s also because the Red Artoo is so close to our heroes that he’s obviously traveling with them. It’s jarring and distracting.

Why did you make the second sun more round in the sunset? Being so low, it ought to be elliptical: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_refraction

Also, I’m not sure the red Artoo recolor is a good idea. I know why you’ve done it, but it looks so similar to Artoo (because, of course, it is) that it’s really distracting. Better to allow the viewer’s eye to focus where it ought (Luke & Obiwan) than to fix a minor issue.

Luke: It’s gotta be the flight suit: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Rebel_flight_suit?file=Luke_Skywalker_pilot.png
Leia: It’s definitely Hoth
Han: the ESB jacket

So basically just ESB

exitzero said:

Some great B-wing footage in 4K-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3u42wL0Cdk

It is, though I find the movement of the B-Wings, particularly near the end, to be somehow unconvincing.

To be fair, we still don’t know that it isn’t his home planet. Where did Yaddle and Grogu come from? Their people don’t even have a name! If ever there was a species whose home world would be entirely unknown to the Republic, it’s them.

The only downside to this theory is the dearth of anyone else on Dagobah. Is Grogu the last of his kind? Did some kind of catastrophe wipe out everyone on the planet sometime before ROTS? (echoes of the old “Naboo will become Dagobah” theory from the early 2000s). On the other hand, how and why did Yoda come to know of Dagobah?

I guess it can’t be entirely unknown, since Luke was able to get there after a ghost told him the name of the system (and nothing else).

I’m going to assume this is well known by now, but wow the shuttle is way too big leaving the Stardestroyer’s docking bay in the opening shot.

Oh that is weird

rocknroll41 said:

Apparently in the Ahsoka show we will see a glimpse of an alternate timeline where she never left the Jedi order and she’s the one fighting Anakin on mustafar instead of obiwan.

I mean that just sounds like a dream or a vision

Speaking as “the guy who has spent way too much time looking at ROTJ storyboards”, the Ewoks look really great on paper, as comic book characters in storyboards. The Ewoks costumes were insufficiently expressive, I think.

Oh this looks fantastic

Just wanted to let everyone know that Disney found the original footage for this scene and have put a version of the film including “When Love Is Gone” in its proper place on Dinsey+, under the movie’s “Extras” section.

Yup, thanks to bootleg audio (we have the 72mm and 35mm audio, right?), I think this belongs in https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Childhood-Misconceptions-aka-The-Trap-Thread-but-misconceptions-still-welcome/id/11406/page/1 and/or (Cassian!) https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/my-memory-isnt-that-bad-is-it-in-SW-77-Luke-misses-with-the-grappling-hook/id/6521/page/1

Servii said:

I’ve always wanted a Star Wars movie or show with a nonhuman protagonist, so I’d be down for a Bothan spies show.

We’ll almost certainly see this someday. When Matt Martin, member of the Lucasfilm Story Group, was once asked about Bothans.

Matt Martin said:

It’s pretty easy to confirm: we are purposely trying not to show them to leave all possibilities for when that story gets told. The dude in Resistance is based on the EU design of a Bothan that the Animation art team used as reference for a background alien. It’ll will come out eventually. Maybe they’ll be just like the EU versions and that dude in Resistance has been a Bothan all along… but we won’t know until we know! For what it’s worth, I believe the first story appearance of a Bothan in the EU came about 7 years after they were mentioned in RotJ and that was in a novel with no visual representation.

That’s good enough for me. And, as we’ve seen before, it’s never a good idea to rush things.

Which of the three new movies is best?

Is this new trilogy better than the prequels?

And another thing…

Season 1 was about Cassian’s conversion, obviously. Will Season 2 feature someone else’s conversion? One possibility, entirely speculative, is that Dedra will turn. The Empire has started to fail to live up to her expectations (not taking prisoners from Anto Kreegyr’s group, for example), and I could imagine that learning of the Death Star would somehow push her over the edge.

I assume that ISB does not yet know of the Death Star; it will be interesting to see if Dedra’s attempts to regain status after her total failure at Ferrix will somehow lead her to discovering its existence.

If the music stays much the same through Season 2 as it has been, the transition to RO as a series finale will be musically jarring.

yotsuya said:

Mocata said:

This show was… good. It wasn’t an uneven mess and knew what it wanted to be. It had things like suspense and characterisation which have been missing from recent SW content, if it was ever present before in these terms. It also had some proper acting talent and proper dialogue instead of the nonsense in recent shows. The tone made sense and people behaved in ways that made sense. It didn’t feel cheap and wasn’t full of cringe references, despite a few name drops.

So it came as no surprise that people hated the pacing and the lack of action. Because for better or worse (it’s the former) this isn’t really SW at all in terms of things like escapism and adventure. SW as a continuation of THX or the crime dramas of the 1970s. After the awkward choppy flashbacks in the first 3 parts it all fell into place. So I fully expect season 2 to be tampered with to make it more appealing to a wider audience, i.e. things like Darth Vader and more deepfakes.

It’s these sort of things that mean I can’t yet accept this as enriching Rogue One after the fact. At least not fully. They could give three episode arcs to Saw and Jyn or to Maze and his pals, but it still leads to creepy CGI faces and Darth Vader’s ‘totally epic’ murder spree. Maybe LFL should avoid this and work towards common goals of quality output instead of just handing out jobs to everyone that is in vogue. It depends on if they recognise what they have here. Disney don’t because they buried it on the app front page.

I watch a lot of shows. The only Star Wars item I am looking for connection on with this is Rogue One. The title of this series is Andor so it should be mostly about him and what led him to the character we see in Rogue One. There is a lot of extra stuff in this series that isn’t related to those events. It is tying into the Rebellion in general and that ties into the Skywalker Saga. Mon Mothma is part of the Skywalker Saga. Luthien is not, but I don’t feel his character had much development and he should have been the focus. Instead we know way more about the culture of Mon Mothma’s family and world than is useful to a tighter story of Cassian Andor.

Given that Mon is in Rogue One, it wouldn’t surprise me if we see other figures from the RO Yavin scenes show up in Season 2, which surely, in addition to being about Cassian’s life, will be about turning a vague network held together by an antiques dealer into a real, functional military. Andor is a prequel to the Rebellion side of that movie, so in addition to K-2SO, we’ll probably see Bail, Jan Dodonna, Davits Draven, Raddus, etc as the season progresses. Also, maybe we’ll see why Saw got kicked out (unless Rebels covered this?)

Did you know that Melshi (Cass’s prison break buddy) was in Rogue One??? I just learned this from Wikipedia.

NFBisms said:

yotsuya said:

timdiggerm said:

yotsuya said:

It largely circled back to where it started, at least for Cass.

Not at all! Cassian has undergone a tremendous conversion. Whereas he went with Luthen out of desperation and took part in the Aldahni mission for money, now he’s preparing for action by listening to Nevik’s manifesto and joining Luthen willingly, dissatisfied with any life but one of full commitment to the cause. He is a changed man.

He’s change by the events of the last episode more than all the rest of the season. That is my issue. Nevik’s manifesto is far too similar to his mother’s speech.

I actually don’t think the last episode changed him at all. If anything, he went into the last episode a certain way and ended it just verbalizing that to Luthen. You’re exactly right about the manifesto vs Maarva’s speech. But Maarva’s speech wasn’t for him, he didn’t need to hear it anymore; esp. since she pretty much said all of that to him herself in episode 7.

Exactly right. The last episode showed us the change that’s been happening in Cass over the course of the season, and the funeral showed us that he’s far from unique in being changed by experiencing the Empire’s oppression.

yotsuya said:

It largely circled back to where it started, at least for Cass.

Not at all! Cassian has undergone a tremendous conversion. Whereas he went with Luthen out of desperation and took part in the Aldahni mission for money, now he’s preparing for action by listening to Nevik’s manifesto and joining Luthen willingly, dissatisfied with any life but one of full commitment to the cause. He is a changed man.

It’s like somehow they now look like they’re moving too fast, and this makes them look small. This is particularly true of the AT-AT shots. The Rancor shots are a little better, but it still looks bad.