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#709095
Topic
Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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ImperialFighter said:

The TMZ site sure seems to have a good 'source' at the moment...  Anybody wanna glimpse of J.J.'s half-built MILLENNIUM FALCON?  Well, here's 22 additional 'leaked' shots that also show a new style of 'X-Wing fighter' in it's very early stages, as well as more of the 'pig-creature' - http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/03/star-wars-episode-7-millennium-falcon-set-photos/ 

Can someone rehost to imgur?

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#708855
Topic
Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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Tyrphanax said:

Okay. Stepping back a bit and being more objective...

The costume design (and the podracer bits) is a bit Prequel-y, I must admit. Just doing some comparisons with Tobar and there's a definite difference between OT and ST that leans more to the PT.

No matter what, this is a movie being designed by people in 2014, not 1987

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#707086
Topic
Spot the errors: ROTJ!
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HigHurtenflurst said:

timdiggerm said:

TheBoost said:

HigHurtenflurst said:

Klasodeth said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Tyrphanax said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

HigHurtenflurst said:

When the Death Star fires at the MonCalamari ship, it always bothered me that the beam didn't just punch right through like it was made of paper and keep going.  It can destroy a whole planet, so a ship shouldn't have stopped it...  Maybe it could even take out another ship(s) in the background.

This is a good one. I've always thought the same, myself.

I believe the official explanation is that the second Death Star had a variable energy output so they could dial it down to destroy a ship, or dial it up to destroy a planet.

Something about that explanation just never sat right with me. 

 Why not? It doesn't make sense to use the full power of the superlaser just to blow up something as tiny as a capital ship. Reducing the power level in exchange for a faster rate of fire not only makes sense, but would also help explain why the Death Star in Star Wars spent 30 minutes traveling around Yavin to to get in range of the Rebel base instead of blowing up Yavin and then blowing up the Rebel base two minutes later. 

 Why not?  Well because the only "official" explanation would be whatever is in the movie in the first place and not some fan-boy EU crap.  The emperor says it's "fully armed and operational," and nobody says anything different.  What you say makes 100% sense, but once the ship explodes the beam would have gone through.  Visually it would be a much more dramatic demonstration of the beam's supposed power.

 The official explanation IS the movie.

The Death Star can blow up a planet. It can also blow up a ship. This is totally clear in the film. It requires no further exposition in the film, nor any outside discussion. 

YOU made up a rule "once the ship explodes the beam would have gone through" that doesn't fit with what's in the film.  The film is not in error. 

This is the correct answer. The DSII is depicted as having variable-strength firepower. That's not a crazy concept.

 ??? I must have missed something.  Depicted how?  In some EU account?  There is no dialogue or discussion in the film to indicate that, (eg. "Fire at 1/4 strength, commander!"), the firing sequence as shown is IDENTICAL to ANH...  You're just ASSUMING that's the case.  FWIW, I totally agree with your logic about variable beam strength/anti ship weaponry, but in reality once a laser burns through a substance, it keeps right on going.   But thank you for giving me credit for making up basic physics!

 Oh true.

I hereby motion that fanedits use a different firing sequence (which, frankly, is a good idea anyway) to show that.

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#706951
Topic
Spot the errors: ROTJ!
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DuracellEnergizer said:

One has to wonder how a superlaser fired from a battle station the size of the moon has such a narrow beam, though. You'd think such a beam would be thick enough to envelop and pass right through a conventionally-sized ship regardless of its overall intensity.

JEDIT: I think I just figured out what my problem with the Death Star II's beam blowing ships out of the sky is. 

 Turn down the power, the beam is narrower.

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#706797
Topic
Spot the errors: ROTJ!
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TheBoost said:

HigHurtenflurst said:

Klasodeth said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Tyrphanax said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

HigHurtenflurst said:

When the Death Star fires at the MonCalamari ship, it always bothered me that the beam didn't just punch right through like it was made of paper and keep going.  It can destroy a whole planet, so a ship shouldn't have stopped it...  Maybe it could even take out another ship(s) in the background.

This is a good one. I've always thought the same, myself.

I believe the official explanation is that the second Death Star had a variable energy output so they could dial it down to destroy a ship, or dial it up to destroy a planet.

Something about that explanation just never sat right with me. 

 Why not? It doesn't make sense to use the full power of the superlaser just to blow up something as tiny as a capital ship. Reducing the power level in exchange for a faster rate of fire not only makes sense, but would also help explain why the Death Star in Star Wars spent 30 minutes traveling around Yavin to to get in range of the Rebel base instead of blowing up Yavin and then blowing up the Rebel base two minutes later. 

 Why not?  Well because the only "official" explanation would be whatever is in the movie in the first place and not some fan-boy EU crap.  The emperor says it's "fully armed and operational," and nobody says anything different.  What you say makes 100% sense, but once the ship explodes the beam would have gone through.  Visually it would be a much more dramatic demonstration of the beam's supposed power.

 The official explanation IS the movie.

The Death Star can blow up a planet. It can also blow up a ship. This is totally clear in the film. It requires no further exposition in the film, nor any outside discussion. 

YOU made up a rule "once the ship explodes the beam would have gone through" that doesn't fit with what's in the film.  The film is not in error. 

This is the correct answer. The DSII is depicted as having variable-strength firepower. That's not a crazy concept.