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#794730
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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unamochilla2 said:

Lt. Hija said:

Now that someone has mentioned it, can somebody explain to me what work of Vader Kylo intends "to finish"?

Vader's last work - we witnessed - was to get rid of the Emperor and convert back to the bright side of the Force...?!?

I've been wondering the same thing.  In the ROTS, wasn't his work to eliminate all the Jedi and to become the most powerful?  Maybe Kylo doesn't want not even one Jedi (Luke) around.  Kylo does seem pretty powerful so I'm curious to know where he learned all this.  Self taught dark lord?

Well, there is the whole thing about Kylo having a master (who is not Sith either) named Snoke

Also, why didn't Luke train Leia to become a Jedi since she is technically a Skywalker?  Maybe she refused and decided it was better to become a General.

 This is one of the big mysteries of the film. Why is Luke in seclusion? Why hasn't he trained anyone?

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#794462
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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SS4DarthPayne said:

-I also think people need to remember what constitutes Star Wars is different to different people. I think people here on this board generally have a narrow definition of what Star Wars is, which is fine, but also remember that that's not the case for a lot of people

 Optical composites! It can't be Star Wars without those! /s

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#794349
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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towne32 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

towne32 said:

AntcuFaalb said:

People were bickering about the then-forthcoming Revenge of the Jedi online on Usenet in 1982.

 Would that still be archived anywhere?

Google Groups has the most complete archive, but the search is broken.

DejaDejaDeja.com has a much better search, but it's only 1981-1991.

 Thank you, I've found a new way to waste my time. :P

http://dejadejadeja.com/10years/getmsg.php?whichmsg=%3C1434@allegra.UUCP%3E

 This is a great find

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#794330
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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Alderaan said:

timdiggerm said:

Alderaan said:

I'm warning you guys, don't get your expectations up. The trailer is a window into the filmmaker's mind and what kind of story they are hoping to tell. All indications are that the story in this film will be poorly fleshed out. The characters will be kind of just there. The movie will be a sleekly produced but vapid Revenge of the Sith meets The Godfather Part 3 meets standard Hollywood blockbuster fare.

What kind of character fleshing-out can you expect from a trailer for a film with a big cast?

Who is the main character? Are they a Jedi? A wizard? A Paladin? What thing has caused them distress in their normal ordinary life such that they will be forced to journey into the world of the story?

The only thing this trailer does is put vague Star Wars like stuff on screen and tell you to come watch it because it's Star Wars.

 - There's a girl who thinks she's no one, but clearly dreams of getting off her backwater world... and then does and has adventures

- There's a disillusioned stormtrooper who, in seeking something to believe in, ends up with familiar heroes and a lightsaber, having adventures

- There's a bad guy who wants to carry on the legacy of Darth Vader

- Han is a very different man from the cynical, skeptical smuggler hired by an old man and a farmboy years ago

Sure sounds like two protagonists, a villain, and familiar supporting cast!

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#794320
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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Alderaan said:

I'm warning you guys, don't get your expectations up. The trailer is a window into the filmmaker's mind and what kind of story they are hoping to tell. All indications are that the story in this film will be poorly fleshed out. The characters will be kind of just there. The movie will be a sleekly produced but vapid Revenge of the Sith meets The Godfather Part 3 meets standard Hollywood blockbuster fare.

What kind of character fleshing-out can you expect from a trailer for a film with a big cast?

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#794316
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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Alderaan said:

Oldfan said:

 I completely disagree. Why would I need them to spoil everything with dialogue that ruins all the plot points for me?

 A trailer should give you a heads up heading into the film about what you are going to see:

1. Who is the protagonist / who are the protagonists?

2. What is the protagonist(s) goal?

3. What villains or obstacles might stand in their way?

For instance, I have seen that new Mars trailer with Matt Damon several times this season. I haven't seen the film, but I know that if I do see it, I will be watching a movie with Matt Damon's character being the main character, and he will be stuck on Mars and people will be trying to rescue him. Whatever else happens in the film, I have no idea, and I have no idea whether he will live or die or whatever larger point there might be to all of it, so it's a nice mix of setting up the audience but not giving away too much.

This Star Wars Trailer on the other hand tells me:

Explosions! Storm Troopers! Lightsabers! Jedi! Harrison Ford is back!

It's Star Wars!

You see how underwhelming that looks to anyone who isn't drunk on kool-aid?

This is funny, given that people who read The Martian before seeing the trailer thought it was a horribly spoiler-filled trailer that would ruin the film for any newcomers to the story.

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#794289
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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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ZkinandBonez said:

Crazy thought, but could Starkiller base actually be a super-weapon hidden inside an entire planet?

In this shot from the trailer it looks like the ground is opening up. And on the poster we see a Death Star type of super-weapon that looks like a snowy planet with a slit/crevice in the middle. 

 http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-FORCE-AWAKENS-Episode-VII-Discussion-SPOILER-THREAD-See-OP-For-Trailer-Teaser-Links-Trailer-is-out/post/793905/#TopicPost793905

As previously discussed, yes. It's more than a possibility - it's confirmed.