timdiggerm

StarChewyWar said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Best from a storytelling POV. That doesn’t make it good; it’s still an abject failure.

From an aesthetic POV, I’d say TPM is the best of the prequels.

-_- Do you guys even know what storytelling IS? Are you talking about plot? Like cohesiveness? Yoda with a lightsaber, totally not contradicting anything in the original trilogy. There is a very clear difference between story and plot. Story is the emotional value of the movie. Plot is just what happens. I could tell you the first Star Wars is about a farmer boy growing up, but the plot would be that Luke Skywalker needs to blow up the Death Star. Normally Story > Plot but in fantasy, you need a cohesive universe for a truly immersive experience. Let’s how cohesive AOTC is :

OT: Darth Vader is badass
Clones: Anakin is a whiny stalker brat
OT: Yoda is an eccentric pacifist
Clones: Yoda is a humorless idiot who think lightsabers are better than the force
OT: Obi Wan and Anakin used to be friends.
Clones: Obi Wan and Anakin practically hate each other.
OT:Great movies overall.
Clones: Awful even by a non geek’s standards.

Pretty sure you’re describing what you called “Story”

Some of these carry over to Revenge of the Sith, but they were introduced mainly in Attack of the Clones. So Attack of the Clones definetly doesn’t have the best PLOT. The entire prequel trilogy has terrible plot, especially the Phantom Menace. You guys seem to be blinded by Harmy’s description of the movie.

If by “blinded” you mean “convinced”?

Try mentioning the love story and the scenes where they do nothing bit talk. Revenge of the Sith is CLEARLY the best prequel. The past two movies have definetly done their damage on the plot, but Revenge of the Sith doesn’t really offend the original trilogy in a new way.

Again, sounds like “story” not “plot”

Besides that, it’s a pretty good movie. I don’t understand the hate.

Generally, around here, most folks think ROTS is the best prequel, in terms of “is this an enjoyable movie?” So, that’s not hate. But…

tl:dr Revenge of the Sith is the best prequel since there is actually a compelling STORY.

Again, that may be so, but we’re saying it lacks something like the “solve a mystery” plot of AOTC.

towne32 said:

Looks like Disney is really cracking down on sites showing that footage with Maz. They had been pretty cooperative up until this point.

Which is a little silly, given that all the footage shows is that she’s even oranger than the poster let on

darth_ender said:

My request would be simply that you finish the effects in several of the released deleted scenes. For instance, the scene where Luke speeds past the old lady on the way to Tosche Station, Luke training on Dagobah, Jerjerrod watching the Death Star II turn upon Endor on the viewscreen, etc.

I would prioritize ROTJ & PT over ESB & ANH, but yeah.

Danfun128 said:

I’m tempted to use that quote out of context in my signature xD.

Please don’t. It’s already far too long.

DVious said:

If they can be shrinked to DVDs that would be even better.

A big part of the point of this is that it’s better than DVD quality

Vader looks at the hologram before it appears. Either it needs to appear in mid-air paused until Tarkin presses the button, so that Vader’s reaction is timed correctly, or his movements need to be retimed independent of Tarkin.

Other than that, it looks great!

ZkinandBonez said:

joefavs said:

Cell-phone-camera-pointed-at-TV video of a teaser that ran on Disney XD in the UK with a lot of new footage and our first lines from Hux and Poe, let’s hope a proper video shows up soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-J1a4J7xNc

American HD version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSBxv0O9yc0

Oh jeez, he said “We’ve got company”

This bickering is pointless.

canofhumdingers said:

Fang Zei said:

Speaking of which, I checked the Smithsonian’s ticketing site and noticed they’ve quietly added a 70mm showtime earlier in the day at 2:30 for Friday-Sunday. Previously they were all sold out until 10:45 on Saturday night.

Maybe I’ll be seeing this earlier than expected.

Aaaaand just this moment saw the special preview during the “Shondathon” on ABC.

LOTS of new shots.

Where are you seeing this? The website I can find only lets you see the schedule out to 21 days, can’t even see the listings for Star Wars on it yet.

http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?organ_val=21156&venue_val=202320&event_val=L2SW

ZkinandBonez said:

timdiggerm said:

ZkinandBonez said:

zaknaberrnon said:

joefavs said:

The Max von Sydow thing confuses me. All signs point to his character being killed in the raid pretty much right off the bat, but if that’s the case, why cast such a legendary actor for two scenes? Maybe the raid takes place a little later than we think and there’s some stuff between him and Rey before Poe shows up. That way his death could echo Owen’s and Beru’s.

Also, this makes me think that perhaps Poe is captured during the raid, and then escapes later? Or maybe several rebels resistance decide to rescue him, like Luke & Co rescued Leia in the original Star Wars?

Poe is definitively captured early in the film, and most likely set free by Finn as he desert the First Order, only to be shot down on Jakku. The real question is how he ends up on the Resistance base later in the film as we’ve seen in the trailers.

I have no problem with thinking that’s Poe inside the Star Destroyer?

I’m not saying that. I was just using the picture to illustrate him being captured as well as being with Finn before he eventually decides to escape and get’s shot down.
And we’ve previously seen short lips of Poe looking somewhat desperate to reach his X-Wing in the same environment that the flamethrower storm troopers are burning down alongside Phasma and Kylo. We’ve also seen John Boyega dressed as a Storm trooper on this location/set.

Oooh, right.

Also I got the Resistance and First Order mixed up.

ZkinandBonez said:

zaknaberrnon said:

joefavs said:

The Max von Sydow thing confuses me. All signs point to his character being killed in the raid pretty much right off the bat, but if that’s the case, why cast such a legendary actor for two scenes? Maybe the raid takes place a little later than we think and there’s some stuff between him and Rey before Poe shows up. That way his death could echo Owen’s and Beru’s.

Also, this makes me think that perhaps Poe is captured during the raid, and then escapes later? Or maybe several rebels resistance decide to rescue him, like Luke & Co rescued Leia in the original Star Wars?

Poe is definitively captured early in the film, and most likely set free by Finn as he desert the First Order, only to be shot down on Jakku. The real question is how he ends up on the Resistance base later in the film as we’ve seen in the trailers.

I have no problem with thinking that’s Poe inside the Star Destroyer?

SilverWook said:

I’m reading elsewhere that Amazon has let a big spoiler slip. Not sure how, or if it’s accidental, but beware if you use their site!

If it’s the spoiler I think you’re referencing, it was from a third party vendor and, given some of the circumstantial evidence in the same listing, probably completely fake. Also you’d have to be looking at a photo on some TFA-related puzzle or something to see it.

ZkinandBonez said:

I though it was a bit strange since the Knights of Ren (apart from Kylo that is) from the trailer doesn’t seem to have lightsabers.

They may have all had lightsabers at one point during development

ZkinandBonez said:

timdiggerm said:

Could that shot go with the space shots of the red light on a planet? Perhaps this is all part of firing the Starkiller?

That was more or less what I assumed, but isn’t Starkiller base the winter-planet iself? If so it can’t exactly shoot itself, so maybe there’s two snow-planets; one with the forest that we see Finn and Kylo duel on and the more barren one that we’ve seen actually split open to reveal the super-weapon. Either that, or this is a shot of the planet blowing up at the end of the film and the Falcon escaping the explosion (like in ROTJ).

My thought is that firing the weapon for the first time clears a significant chunk of the land with the first blast. Like if someone had built a forest inside the Death Star’s “dish” and it all got fried the first time they turned the thing on.

ZkinandBonez said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Here’s most of what we’ve seen so far in chronological order: http://imgur.com/a/cKpEP

That seems pretty accurate based on the rumours and plot points we’ve gotten so far, although the last act is still somewhat hard to predict just based on a few short clips.

However this shot is not of Finn’s Tie Fighter crashing, it’s definitively a tree-line, most likely the same as we saw in the TV spot (see second image).

Could that shot go with the space shots of the red light on a planet? Perhaps this is all part of firing the Starkiller?

Two Jedi attempt to resolve a brewing conflict between a peaceful planet and an aggressive interplanetary corporation, but soon see signs that sinister forces may be at work. After a long and ultimately futile journey across the galaxy to garner support for their cause, a final showdown defeats both the corporation’s military and their shadowy master’s powerful henchman. But the identity of the mastermind of these events and his true purpose remains mysterious…

Unfortunately, “long and ultimately futile journey” is a bit of an understatement.

zaknaberrnon said:
to the guy who said Leia and Han should have split up… NO. just no. that would be truly ridiculous and make no sense.

Why would that be ridiculous and make no sense?

DarthJezmoz said:

towne32 said:

Hah, this was a surprising little bit of marketing today involving Lucas and Abrams. :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDu9SLvF_E

Doesn’t give much away about TFA

Spoilers in that one: Chewbacca’s in TFA

...do we want to just schedule a trip to the Air & Space? All DC-area OTers?

not opening night, but a little later?

FanFiltration said:

 So, is this what was inside that "palace"? A lot of different flags outside, lots of different galactic species inside. Looks to me like it could be a hub of trade and commerce for the new republic.

New Republic? Try "pirates"

Anchorhead said:

Whatever this building is and for whatever reason our heroes are there;

...there doesn't appear to be much left after Phasma gets through with it.

 Ooooh that's interesting. I think that's probably Maz's castle?

unamochilla2 said:

Lt. Hija said:

Now that someone has mentioned it, can somebody explain to me what work of Vader Kylo intends "to finish"?

Vader's last work - we witnessed - was to get rid of the Emperor and convert back to the bright side of the Force...?!?

I've been wondering the same thing.  In the ROTS, wasn't his work to eliminate all the Jedi and to become the most powerful?  Maybe Kylo doesn't want not even one Jedi (Luke) around.  Kylo does seem pretty powerful so I'm curious to know where he learned all this.  Self taught dark lord?

Well, there is the whole thing about Kylo having a master (who is not Sith either) named Snoke

Also, why didn't Luke train Leia to become a Jedi since she is technically a Skywalker?  Maybe she refused and decided it was better to become a General.

 This is one of the big mysteries of the film. Why is Luke in seclusion? Why hasn't he trained anyone?

I think green might be more Resistance than Luke themed, but otherwise I think those are pretty solid guesses. Maybe switch the Kylo & FO colors.

Maybe she's not crying over a dead body.

I'd rather have it migrated before the movie, so that there's no interruption in our post-release discussion

This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If Slave 1 is in the air, it can be at any angle to the ground, right?