timdiggerm

Finally saw this movie.

When they announced it, I was sure it was a terrible idea. After the movie came out, I was surprised to hear that it might be good. Last night, I was delighted to discover that it is good! Some of the dialogue was clunky, especially towards the start of the movie, and the music was just okay, but those are just about my only complaints. I found Beckett and Qira both really interesting, and am actually hoping for a sequel with Qira as villain. I enjoyed L3, but Rio the 4-armed monkey pilot was maybe my favorite. Glover was great as Lando, Han was pretty good, and at no time have I ever noticed that the new Chewie was not Chewie. The action scenes were all really fun, and we finally got to see a lot of the stuff that we knew existed in the SW Universe but hadn’t actually seen (Imperial Army doing stuff, Kessel, Corellia). There were a lot of nods to the EU (Sabacc, Corellia, Kessel Run, Han’s Imperial days, swoop gangs, Teras Kasi), but not in a clunky way (i.e. I smiled but my wife didn’t even notice them), which is perfect. Other notes: The aquatic worm crime boss was pretty cool, even if you could tell it was a puppet (but what a puppet!), and Maul was unnecessarily eye-rolly.

exitzero said:

HotRod said:

See you all in 10 years when this thing is complete

Amazing, every single word you just said is wrong.

Even the “is”?

They look rather washed out

TV’s Frink said:

timdiggerm said:

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Ryan-SWI said:

The Autistic Asexual said:

He only appears “shallow” because George Lucas didn’t really give him much to do in The Phantom Menace.

You’re literally confirming that he’s shallow with that statement.

Maul was featured prominently in TCW and Rebels, so TPM is not the be-all, end-all for the character’s development.

It is in my world, and many many other people who just watch the movies feel the same.

And therefore he was last seen getting cut in half.

And therefore his appearance in this movie is not just dumb, it’s nonsensical.

It’s obviously not nonsensical in the world in which the film was meant to be a part of (the new canon), and thus the “nonsensical”-ness is just the problem of the standard of “personal canon”

Great. Doesn’t matter to me because there’s zero explanation in the film, therefore it’s nonsensical.

I should be able to ignore EU and have stuff still make sense. It’s not like I’m trying to pretend Jabba doesn’t exist.

Okay, I agree now.

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Ryan-SWI said:

The Autistic Asexual said:

He only appears “shallow” because George Lucas didn’t really give him much to do in The Phantom Menace.

You’re literally confirming that he’s shallow with that statement.

Maul was featured prominently in TCW and Rebels, so TPM is not the be-all, end-all for the character’s development.

It is in my world, and many many other people who just watch the movies feel the same.

And therefore he was last seen getting cut in half.

And therefore his appearance in this movie is not just dumb, it’s nonsensical.

It’s obviously not nonsensical in the world in which the film was meant to be a part of (the new canon), and thus the “nonsensical”-ness is just the problem of the standard of “personal canon”

One must consider the effect of that change on AOTC, introducing the Lars on Tatooine, Shmi’s death at the hands of the Sandpeople, etc.

Hardcore Legend said:

If Jabba’s palace is on Tattoine and Jabba has a bounty on Solo’s life, why would Han chose to hang out in a bar on Tattoine when he has the REST OF THE GALAXY TO HIDE in?

I assume he had to deliver a shipment to Tatooine, wanted a drink while there, and hoped no one would notice him chilling in a dark corner with a lady.

But yes it was not a great decision.

SilverWook said:

GZK8000 said:

Fantastic Films magazine? They did a lot of wild speculating back in the day between sequels. I need to find those and see if anything was on the money. Not sure they were still in business by the time Jedi was out.

They were!

The Internet Archive has their May of 1983 issue, covering ROTJ, here… but they only have the pages covering The Dark Crystal. So we can’t actually read the article titled “Return of the Jedi: The Final Speculation”.

The IA also has an interview with Kurtz, plus some Dark Crystal stuff from February of the same year, and the Dark Crystal coverage from November, 1982. So basically, the articles exist, but IA only has things related to Dark Crystal.

I’m glad. I thought that design looked awful.

JEDIT: I thought that… and I still think that.

Anchorhead said:

canofhumdingers said:

Hmm,those imax posters sure look familiar…

No doubt an homage. Really nice to see McQuarrie continue to get so much respect in the Disney films.

After reading The Art of The Force Awakens and The Art of The Last Jedi, I actually started to worry that they’re giving McQuarrie too much honor as like…the only and best source of ideas.

lovelikewinter said:

I can’t wait for Filoni to shove Ahsoka and Ezra and Rex in this.

Given the ending of Rebels and the timeframe involved, I doubt this’ll happen. You can bet that Filoni’s going to tell us the story of the Filoni-faves post-ROTJ, so it would be pretty strange to tell us what happens to them way later first.

DominicCobb said:

timdiggerm said:

DominicCobb said:

As much as we all love the OT, I think it’s time for them to move past it a bit and start telling more stories in what is ostensibly the “current” era of Star Wars. At the moment, the amount of material in the ST period is shockingly low, considering.

I think this has been so that they don’t box themselves into any corners with ST plot/worldbuilding, but as EpIX is (presumably) written by now they’re free from that.

No doubt, and it makes sense, just a little weird when you think about it and compare it to the onslaught of material that came out during the prequels, about the prequels. Even the OT had a good amount of stuff at the time too, between the various comics and such.

OT, they weren’t operating with the same canon-mindset. PT, kind of a similar mindset, but at least there everyone knew where things were headed.

DominicCobb said:

As much as we all love the OT, I think it’s time for them to move past it a bit and start telling more stories in what is ostensibly the “current” era of Star Wars. At the moment, the amount of material in the ST period is shockingly low, considering.

I think this has been so that they don’t box themselves into any corners with ST plot/worldbuilding, but as EpIX is (presumably) written by now they’re free from that.

Sky_ said:

^…^ said:

I feel like John … amazed, but at the same time annoyed.

I must admit that, even if you Lucasized it, it will blend quite well with the Blu-ray; but agree that those houses should not be there!

But you did a very good job, kudos! Hope to see also the other scenes restored - not too much Lucasized, though! 😉

If you will do a new version without houses - added clouds are OK to me - I’ll use it for my (future planned but always delayed) Star Wars Extended Edition.

Once it’s completed, I mean all Roto corrected, it will be very easy to remove all the Extra stuff as there on different layers, so I’ll make 2 versions, one with all the extras and one without… That should be fine for anyone wanting to use it… 😃

Oh good. That’s what people actually want.

ChainsawAsh said:

canofhumdingers said:

There’s tons of awesome aliens in TFA and R1. I like these guys from Maz’s castle.

Wait, are those live-action Zabraks (like Zeb from Rebels)?

I believe you mean Lasats. Darth Maul is a Zabrak.

And no. They are Hassks.

You know what doesn’t suck about Canto Bight? The music. Just finally listened to the soundtrack, and that track is so good.

I guess, but it’s not particularly great without movement

Oh, you probably didn’t recognize him because of the red arm

So glad to hear Swoop Bikes are canon

Okay, I am coming at this as someone who reads this thread, reads news about Rebels, but has never actually watched Clone Wars or Rebels.

(and yes, I know, I know, I’m missing out on some of the best Star Wars ever. I might get around to it, but I hardly watch anything at all)

Wouldn’t it make a lot of sense for “What comes next” to be the new-canon version of the Legends Thrawn trilogy? They’ve introduced Thrawn, they’ve introduced Noghri, and only one film left in the ST makes it a perfect time to start telling post-ROTJ stories.

Not sure how that’s not a suggestion, but it’s a good suggestion.

I would very much like a link if that’s possible.

Haarspalter said:

lovelikewinter said:

Mocata said:

It would have made more sense to show him getting greyer as time went on, since it would then line up with Vader’s face too as they were both dark side users. Didn’t he look worse in AOTC than ROTS? It’s a redundant rebate I suppose.

He totally did.

AOTC

ROTS

I guess they were originally going for him to look more and more corrupted over time.

Never heard of the EMPEROR PALPATINE SURGICAL RECONSTRUCTION CENTER?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor_Palpatine_Surgical_Reconstruction_Center

😉

Sigh. Legends is best canon.

Mike O said:

The question is, how many can the general public take before they get bored with it?

I do hope there’s a bit of a break between Ep9 and the Rian-trilogy.

I don’t envy Abrams because he has to make a sequel to a movie that intentionally made fun of things from his previous movie. What’s inside the mystery box? Nothing!

(note: I think this was a great decision on Johnson’s part)