theprequelsrule

Anchorhead said:

George - The original film was basically subtitled The Tragedy of Darth Vader

 

At this point, his delusion is just plain disturbing.  He seems to have absolutely zero understanding of how easy it is to prove that statement is complete bullshit.

???

I'm with you. What the fuck happened to the guy?! What kind of people does he surround himself with to allow him to make such claims?

The medium is the message. If you don't think that CGI have a negative effect on how filmmakers approach the creation of a film you have your head up your ass. Does anyone here think that the great epic blockbusters of the pre-CGI era are not superior in nearly every way to the modern garbage we are fed? Yes, I am including overrated mediocrities like LOTR and Avatar as "modern garbage"

A tool is never just a tool. If you don't recognize that you end up like Mr. Lucas.

zombie84 said:

I don't want to oversell the books, because they have their flaws, but they are pretty darned good in my opinion.

The biggest flaw, IIRC, was that there was a distinct lack of humour. Otherwise; good stuff.

Maybe their best achievement was having excellent antagonists who weren't Sith!

In a way, he is sort of doing a very minimalist special edition. I wish George had done that. I believe there was a version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture that did something similar - new effects shots were done to replace older ones, but using the same FX tech as the original shots.

(Sigh) I wish George had done that.

Anchorhead said:

Good points on the CGI pre-hate by some folks, which I just can't understand.  CGI is the matte painting of the 21st century and can be a very effective resource in the right hands.

I respectfully disagree. CGI do not exist as real things. Matte paintings (and models) are real - they can be touched. They have unintentional flaws that add to their reality.

CGI are only bits of data. The human mind revolts at CGI as something intrinsically unreal.

Between CGI and 3D garbage, I have found myself completely disinterested in every "blockbuster" film that comes down the pipes these days. When the acting and story are good, it actually makes things worse.

Anchorhead said:

TV's Frink said:

Leia really let herself go.

I am afraid I'll have to disagree....

;-)

All kidding aside, she has it all over Carrie Fisher. Even when Fisher was in her prime. No, I'm not kidding.

 

I like chains. Where's my sock?!

captainsolo said:

OT.com convention complete with dance party, gif posting events, dolby vs. dts debate, panel discussions on the differing video releases and audio mixes, and coffee.

All led by the most handsome pilot in the universe.

Thoughts?

Will someone come dressed as Oola? Boob slippage for the win!

none said:

Previous official thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/StarWarsLegacy-com-The-Official-Thread/topic/1418/

I guess I forgot that the search engine is my friend. Thanks.

From the screenshots, this looks amazing. A wonderful effort Lee.

One gripe: Threepio is too yellow and not gold enough.

Ric Olie is really important, but it is also important to discover if any chicks in their late 30s (biological clock ticking and all that) will be at this event dressed as Twileks. If so, I may attend. I have some custom stormtrooper armour that I can't wait to show off! That will get those lekku twitching, if you know what I'm saying (wink wink).

I’m surprised there has been so little discussion of this project so, um, let’s discuss it.

http://www.starwarslegacy.com/

Vision of the Future would have been the perfect send-off for Star Wars. I kind of wish no further products (be they movie, comic, TV, book, or game) were made after it - with the exception of KOTOR 1 & 2.

timdiggerm said:

New Republic and contemporaneous to the OT are the two I think you'd like, although obviously not everything within those.

I have no idea how you'd feel about New Jedi Order (a loooong storyline during New Republic times). It sure isn't World Shrinkage.

Anchorhead liking NJO? Inconceivable!

TV's Frink said:

I question your motives.

Suspicion is the first step on the path towards wisdom.

timdiggerm said:

And theprequelsrule has made some of the greatest posts ever to grace these boards.

I have only reached such heights by standing on the shoulder's of giants such as Frink, Ric, and many others. 4 years of lurking has served me well.

The film was sadly lacking in CGI gophers.

TV's Frink said:

There's your answer Bloodnose.  Well, that as well as this:

theprequelsrule said:

The prequels just suck, although TPM was at least an attempt to make a film with an original vision. I think. It still sucked.

I'm having a hard time telling if he's a sock.

I certainly need a sock when thinking of Aayla Secura. Another fine contribution to Star Wars lore from the EU.

BloodnoseThePirate said:

Yeah, I'm having a hard time telling if this guy is serious.

How could I not be serious? The main character, is like, a clone! A clone of the guy who you control in the first game! Clones are awesome, which is why Attack of the Clones was awesome! Well, that and the hilarious C-3P0 scenes in the Droid Assembly Factory. In fact, I think I'm going to go watch those scenes right now!

adywan said:

Yet again us fans outside of the USA get forgotten. 4 of the 6 movies were made here in the UK, yet we only get 1 event. But i agree with Warbler, there is nothing to celebrate with the current sate of the franchise.

Again, I am forced to point out the pure awesomeness of TFU 2. Greatest game ever I tell 'ya!!

TV's Frink said:

I think you are looking for a different thread.  This thread is about Leia the Racist until S_Matt returns to this jerkoff forum.

Now I feel stupid. Thanks a lot Frink!

TV's Frink said:

^lol at member name

It's the best I could do. Lame, I know.

Star Wars (1977) possessed an energy that none of the sequels/prequels have been able to match. It has a certain freshness and innocence to it. The terrible shooting conditions, time constraints, and limited $ and technology forced talented people to great heights of innovation and creativity. It also has the best pacing of any movie I have ever seen; a lot of the credit goes to the editing skills of the two Lucases (Luci?).

Empire, for all it's merits, is a Hollywood film. Quite frankly, I do find Empire a little boring at times and I sometimes think the "darkness" of the material actually did more harm than good to the series.

Return, for all it's faults, is Hamill's best performance. Since he is what the series is all about I always thought Return was underrated. I can see the critics point of view of course; the totally mailed in/coked out performances by Ford and Fisher, teddy bears etc.

I've become more and more like Anchorhead - the original film is kind of in a separate category of it's own and is almost always the film I choose to watch when I watch a Star Wars movie. It is, in a way, the only Star Wars movie. The truest to George's vision from 1975/76 (no matter what he now claims).

The prequels just suck, although TPM was at least an attempt to make a film with an original vision. I think. It still sucked.

C'mon man, The Force Unleashed 2 was the height of awesomeness!

Noob here.

The reason that, at least for me, the Zahn novels are so superior to the novels that followed is that Zahn actually wrote them as novels. Other authors seemed to think they were writing movies. Even Zahn has not been able to escape the taint of the prequels, and his recent stuff is medicore at best. Plus, as others mentioned, he fell in love with his own characters (Jade, Thrawn, Karrde)

I actually thought the Black Fleet Crisis was good, although it lacked the feel of Star Wars almost completely. Weird.

I loved KOTOR 2. Maybe my second favourite Star Wars experience after the original film! It built upon the more serious tone of the films that started in Empire and explored the Jedi and Sith philosophies in a mature manner. Great characters as well. Buggy as hell though, and essentially unfinished (the last 10% of the game is a complete mess).