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#515443
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The prequels' influence on pop-culture?
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twooffour said:

theprequelsrule said:

twooffour said:

theprequelsrule said:

I don't think The Matrix has aged nearly as well as the original Star Wars film. When I saw it in '99 I definitely thought it was an A+, but only a few years later I could not really give it anything better than a solid B. Part of it has to do with my increasing distaste for elaborate and heavily choreographed action sequences.

Well we can disagree on that last one, but I was rather talking about its influence and impact, which I think is safe to say was pretty huge.

It's not a such "clean", all-around paragon of a great action adventure film like Star Wars.
But it's extremely memorable, and has wreaked its fair share of havoc :)

I don't think it's long term impact was huge. It's rather forgotten today IMO. For the first 3 to 5 years afterward; yes, it was highly influential.

Well, I can't judge that far, but there was a bullet-time shot in the last Harry Potter movie for example :)

Yuck. But I have something worse; remember the bullet-time shot in Aliens versus Predator?

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#515438
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The prequels' influence on pop-culture?
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twooffour said:

theprequelsrule said:

I don't think The Matrix has aged nearly as well as the original Star Wars film. When I saw it in '99 I definitely thought it was an A+, but only a few years later I could not really give it anything better than a solid B. Part of it has to do with my increasing distaste for elaborate and heavily choreographed action sequences.

Well we can disagree on that last one, but I was rather talking about its influence and impact, which I think is safe to say was pretty huge.

It's not a such "clean", all-around paragon of a great action adventure film like Star Wars.
But it's extremely memorable, and has wreaked its fair share of havoc :)

I don't think it's long term impact was huge. It's rather forgotten today IMO. For the first 3 to 5 years afterward; yes, it was highly influential.

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#515434
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Movies that actually scare/scared you!
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The original Halloween. The entire movie sustains a great aura of dread and tension. Come to think of it, so do the first two Alien films. I was quite scared watching Aliens at age 11 on City TV back in 1988.

The Tarzan film Greystoke. Those apes scared the shit out of me. My mom relates a funny story of taking me to see that film when I was 6, and then being scolded harshly on the way home by me for taking a child to such a frightening film!

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#515427
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The prequels' influence on pop-culture?
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The prequels are symbolic of our culture's percieved inability to produce anything even as simple as basic entertainment (forget about actual art).

I mean, that was the real failure of TPM; it wasn't even all that much fun.
I prefer my Star Wars more like, um, Star Wars rather than ESB. I thought George could make a movie that was at least...

Ah, fuck it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

 

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#511425
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Hypothetical Question.
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zombie84 said:

Forgive? I don't know if I would "forgive" anything. This type of thinking seems foreign to me, like Lucas is some dysfunctional family member that we have to come to terms with. He is an artist and a custodian of national treasures and he gets judged the same way anyone else in his position would be. Did people "forgive" Ted Turner because he released the black and white versions of his colourized films again? I doubt people think about it in those terms, but I'm sure they are greatful he did so. I am also sure they still dislike the fact that he had the nerve to colourize them in the first place.

The OT SE would still represent a butchering of a classic. People have the right, and are right, to complain about the sheer existance of this.

Lucas would have still repressed the OT for well over a decade and impeded a lot of people' enjoyment of their art and culture, as well as sullying the memory of those films. This should not be forgotten, as though it didn't happen.

Lucas has more to attone for his actions rather than "I'm sorry." In fact, restoring the OOT wouldn't even be saying I'm sorry. Lucas would never say or feel such a thing. IMO all it would be was, "here you go, please get off my back now," even if this seems like a cynical perspective of mine.

Would the resentment die down? Of course. But in the larger picture, Lucas cannot undo his actions and change his past. He can lessen how harsh history will judge him, but what is done is done and that fact alone is not worth forgetting. Everyone has to live with the actions they take, even if they redress them later.

Jebsus Zombie, you're in a mood today.

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#511424
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The Phantom Menace - general discussion thread
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zombie84 said:

As far as it being a "pile of silly fun," yes, I think many fans of TPM would say that TPM shares this quality with MIB. I think that is also one of the greatest attributes of the original Star Wars film--like Independenec Day or Men In Black, it doesn't take itself very seriously, has good characters and good natured humour, excellent special effects and action scenes, and you feel good at the end of the picture. Which is a point you continue to miss. He didn't compare it to MIB in a general sense, but specifically in these qualities.

I think there was a certain meaning, a degree of Truth (yes, capital "T"), that was present in Star Wars 1977 that puts it in a different category than MIB and ID4. This never got in the way of the fun of course.

I've said this before in another thread, but SW77 defies easy categorization. It is sort of it's own genre.