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#645756
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Remake the Prequels
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        The Jedi Knights are KNIGHTS. The stopping of the movie at Ben's hut for the terrific expo was one of the greatest moments. Knights carry swords (sabres) and RIDE into battle. I thought they were all great pilots. When Leia calls him "General Kenobi" I thought it must be like an Air Force general.                                                            I hope there are at least a couple of times in each prequel where things are brought to a complete stop for some great exposition drops in addition to many little expo line drops. AVENGERS was impressive for it's willingness to just stop and toss out expo while simultaneously giving the characters an opportunity to form relationships with each other.
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#645546
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Scriptwriting Random Thoughts
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      Not that it matters, but in the outline a Klingon ship shows up above the colony world and there is indication that the Klingons were involved in weapons and might have started war. Some cat and mouse with the Klingon ship like TWOK and TSFS with Kirk having an opportunity to destroy Klingon ship but tries negotiation. Looks like Klingons are hell bent on war. When Marcus shows up Enterprise could act to protect Klingons. The Klingon ship is nearly destroyed and knocked to side and forgotten as they deal with Marcus and Engineer. We understand and have some sympathy for everyone's motivations. Marcus saw crew needlessly killed and Klingons were poised for immediate war, Engineer was used and prevented from saving his family, Klingons trying to protect their colony in the neutral zone and subjected to outrages.... Try to keep everyone guessing for as long as possible about whether they are right or doing wrong. Twists and moral dilemmas.                                                                                             The primary purpose of revising the script of a movie already released is to increase confidence in the possibility for improving and learning techniques for doing so. 
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#644819
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Scriptwriting Random Thoughts
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       ^^ The outline above looks deceptively like it is the story of the movie. It is part of the story, but it is all more like a backdrop for the more important aspects of the story. It enables the more important aspects to take place. The interaction of the characters and the progress of the arcs of the indivdual characters torwards the sort of personalities they became in TOS or variations there from. This is why moving through the opening sequences as quickly as possible while remaining engaging and without becomeing confusing meaningless to the audience is critical. The decks have to be cleared for the characters to develope. Many hints have to be revealed in the beginning sequences as well. Why does Marcus become such a bastard and how bad is he? What sort of torpedo was dac Marcus working on? Does it rearrange matter in a destructive way? How does she fell about doing that? How does she feel about meeting Kirk? How does she feel about encountering a fellow super-engineer? How does he feel about her? is there a quick little moment where they make an emotional connection or do they mess with each other's heads? Both? There's all the problems of two hot chicks and how the guys react. Jealousies? How do Scotty and little buddy develope the bromance of the 23rd century? Spock, Kirk and Bones for that matter. Above all Kirk as he is the central figure. In ST09, He was obviously struggling with the manner of his father's death. How is that internal struggle progressing? He was born at the beginning of a timeline that would not, and maybe should not, have been. That must do a number on his head. TOS Kirk was a bit like a 007 man's man. When he had pleasure he usually mixed it with business. ST09 Kirk was a skirt chasing frat boy. Does this next film show a Kirk struggling to look away from every passing short skirt? Something in between TOS and ST09?... The original touched briefly on many of these things but more, without grinding down, enriches. Understanding motivation is good too. Marcus could be threatening to destroy the Klingon ship and devestate the Klingon city before leaving to fight the war elsewhere. Engineer could be taken as a boy to allow for family in both timelines. Some expo about how they are living in a timeline that perhaps "should not be" might increase the tension and sell the loss.

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#644810
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Scriptwriting Random Thoughts
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      Knowing how you want it to end is extremely useful. I knew I wanted a TWOK funeral and a Kirk voiceover. I knew I wanted a TSFS destruction of Enterprise. These present great problems. The series has trouble going forward and It's a hell of a downer of an ending. "We'll meet you at the rendevous on Tatooie." is about as important as "I am your father." and I love you/I know. It reminded the audience that there was hope and something to look forward to at an important moment. I wanted everything in STID to follow the philosophy ST09 and be bigger, faster and more spectacular. Kirk's sacrifice had to be for much more than ship and crew. Same for ENTERPRISE. Working out the ending in detail showed me what sort of "Chekov's guns" I needed to plant earlier.

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#644385
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Star Trek Into Darkness Full Spoiler Discussion
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       ^I'd be curious to know the percentage of overall production costs for bringing a film to principal photography and major expenses of the production phase. How much of the expense could be put off to the last moment? For example, as much of the major costs of producing a sequel are put off until 1 year before it is to be released as is possible, the first film is released in June of 2014, it is a success worthy of a sequel, the sequel goes into production immediately in the summer of 2014 to be released in 2015. How much money would be lost if the first film failed and the sequel canceled?  Hollywood needs tp put out product in any case. What's a better bet, a completely new film fully financed or a sequel to a film that can be canceled at the beginning of production if the first film is seen as not justifying a sequel? I'd like for it to be possible for the sequel to be filmed 2 weeks after the first is released and seen to be successful, though that would be a very tight schedule and difficult to integrate FX and bring all together in time for a release 12 months after the first's release. In any case, I can't see any reason for waiting 1 minute more than 2 years for the sequel to come. The sequel initial costs and work could be disguised as part of the first flim's production work if there is any concern about secrets. 
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#644218
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Scriptwriting Random Thoughts
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        My attempt at revising a recent film. A rough outline as I have forgotten nearly all of the little bit I knew about screenplay format (and English composition for that matter.)   SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS  STIDREVISED:     The film opens as in ST09. A Starfleet ship approaches a little derelect ship. Suited figures are aboard the derelect filled with cryo-pods. They concentrate on one containing a young man.There is a little quick and vague talk about the cuong man surving cryo because he has special protection from nuclear war and nuclear winter. There is an alert and they beam back with the pod. Captain Marcus seems full of compassion for rescueing the people and he orders the derelect pushed on a different course where it can't be tracked. Marcus then leads the approaching ships away from the derelect. Klingon ships drop out of warp and there is a battle where Marcus sees some of his crew killed. There is a vaguely Kobiyashi Maru type scenario but we don't know the outcome.   HARD CUT TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARS FORWARD IN TIME. The same sequence saving the planet from the volcano with Chekov in the shuttle and Spock releasing the line, maybe the ENTERPRISE hiding in the smoke plume (to save the great underwater thing for another ep), Kirk and McCoy Only in native clothes and beamed out with some of the water splashing in the TR, Uhura beams back from the shuttle to argue. CUT TO OPENNING CREDITS THEN CUT TO LONDON ARCHIVE: A man of about thirty begins to infiltrate the building CUT TO PIKE OFFICE: Kirk and Spock talk about why they are called in. Kirk says it must be because of HIS proposal for the first 5 year deep space mission of exploration. Spock is doubtful. Pike comes in and starts chewing them out. INTERCUT BETWEEN OFFICE AND ARCHIVE Kirk argues that he couldn't let 80 million sentient humanoids die needlessly, Pike points out that the Klingons might interpret that as Starfleet creating 80 million new Federation allies right on the doorstep of the Klingon Empire and that is just one of the infinite number of things that could go wrong from changing the natural order. Pike asks Spock why they don't contact species without warp tech and Spock reminds us that surviving to warp tech without destroying themselves says a great deal about a species. Pike tells Kirk that Command wants to send him back to the Academy and they returned the ENTERPRISE to him, waits a moment, and then tells Kirk that Spock is demoted to just Science Officer and Kirk will be First Officer but he's going to wish he was sent back to the Academy. Says that kirk is his mess and he's going to clean it up. An alert and Pike sends Spock back to make the ship ready and takes Kirk to the conference. CONFERENCE: Admirals and Captains at the main table assistants sitting back behind. Kirk meets mysterious blonde in back and hits on her. Talk of Klingons poised for slightest provokation and there can't be a war before the CONSTITUTION and RESILIENT are completed from regular building program and the new ships secretly being built are commisioned. It looks like Marcus doesn't want war at least until then. Decided the archive isn't the Klingons style but a Starfleet traitor was there and is a great engineer who might have given prototype cloaking tech to Klingons and/or Romulans. Concern if new ships might be provacative. Kirk interrupts, attack, Pike injured but not killed and quips that he'd like to command the ENTERPRISE for more than 5 minutes, Kirk saves blonde, stops attack. ADM MARCUS OFFICE: Kirks gets questionable orders to kill engineer but it could start a war and told engineer was also looking for info. ENTERPRISE: Crew protests orders to go to Klingon colony world and fire. Blonde with one super torpedo for the job and Kirk learns she is Marcus then. She might be there to spy for daddy. It looks like daddy might want war. They go, Kirk doesn't fire on the only metropolis on the colony world near neutral zone. Talk of Uhura needed to negotiate the "Right Of Allies" though that has only been between Klingons. They find engineer and Klingons attack but don't respond to requests to be considered allies. Engineer saves Crew from Klingons and saves Kirk with a blood injection. (These things have been happenning as quickly as possible to leave as much time as possible to slow down for interralating between the crew and the villain TOS style including a sit-down in the Enterprise conference room.) We learn that another incident has enraged the Klingons and they are suddenly surging and converging to attack earth and other Federation worlds. McCoy examins Kirk as they talk to engineer and "Any more homicidal"  quip here passing quickly. They find out that he is part of Kahn's "family" and the most brilliant young man in engineering aptitude taken 10/15 years before and shown current tech and made to design weapons systems for Marcus. He claims everything he did was only to rescue his family from cold death and that Kahn was most humane of the war leaders. McCoy says that's a little like the most humane of the badgers. He says Marcus is certain war is coming with Klingons and that he has been forced to make secret weapons that violate the spirit of the treaties and that the Klingons will think are so provacative that they will turn from internal rivalries and attack the Federation. Looks like Marcus has already created a war. We see attacks on some Federation worlds and Klingons headed for Earth and Pike and some Starfleet ships ready for defense.- Enterprise and Klingon ship battle over colony world. Back and forth. Both ships severely damaged. Enterprise hit and Kirk sees some of his crew killed. Anger. Moral dilemma about using Marcus torpedoes. Kirk orders them targeted. At last moment he orders different coordinates and fires a warning shot across bow. Tells Klingons the Federation has horrible weapons that must not be used. Klingon commander hesitates and then decides must destroy enemy now.  Marcus warps in in supership VINDICATOR and disables Klingon ship. Kirk must prove to watching klingon ship that he wants to stop war and is a true ally, honorable to Klingons. He  orders to make ready to ram the Vindicator, tells crew that he can't let ADM Marcus see an evacuation or surprise is lost and chokes as he says "I'm sorry." Kirk says "Mr. Sulu...Ramming speed-" just then see that Scotty has sabotaged VINDICATOR. INTERCUT WITH BATTLE OVER EARTH (We haven't heard anything from them but Klingon language between themselves. Kirk orders "Cupcake, prepare a boarding party." and they go across to shuttle bay Scotty is to open for them, There are 70 crew on VINDICATOR so larger party that Kahn saves and is very helpful to this point. it looks like he might not be so bad. Scotty saved by little pal just in time to open shuttle bay and there is a phaser battle Get to bridge and Marcus says he didn't start war it was just inevitable (He didn't try to kill starfleet officers. They get rid of vindicator crew when engineer uses his knowledge to trigger 'Abandon Ship' order that Marcus can't stop. Only bridge crew remains. Engineer kills Marcus. Sits in chair and starts typing commands to control ship, tells Kirk that he also worked on some ENTERPRISE systems and we see on ENTERPRISE that the 'Abandon Ship' alarm is signaled there and all internal ship communications are disabled. Chaos as all flee. Enterprise suddenly starts to fall to colony world on course to crash into the only large city on the planet. engineer tells Kirk that it will guarantee that there is no peace, he triggered the war because he created weapons all sides are using and he is the only one who knows how to disable them. Spock takes pocket communicator and tells Chekov to program all transporters to send personel to a point clear of Klingon metropolis blast zone Uhura first. Uhura says she's staying and Spock says she must negotiate "Right of Allies" Spock gives Sulu the con and goes to warp core to fix because that is only way to restore emergency power to ship controls. Engineer tells Kirk that the Federation will have no choice but to submit to the great military commander KAHN. (he puts an image of frozen Kahn on screen) They will beg him on their knees when they see they will be anihilated otherwise. Engineer says "Yes, A captain should go down with his ship" and programs tranporters to beam the raiding party and remaining bridge crew to detention. Chaos as some reach shutlles and transporter pads around ship some are beamed at last moment while falling by Chekov. Enterprise falls through atmoshpere while we see Klingon surface guns blast holes in ship. We see Klingons, including young children, shout defiantly and wave blades at the falling ship. We see hole blasted in sick bay where McCoy put dead tribble he injected in a sealed jar. WE see Uhura and some crew at safe site she starts trying to negotiate with angry Klingons. Scotty and Kirk also realise warp core must be realigned they go there and others are beamed out along the way. Marcus beamed out while falling out hole. Kirk goes in while Scotty fixes something else, fixes core and Spock reaches point while Kirk comes out and collapses. Uhura about to be stabbed as they look to metro in distance and see smoking ship fall. Sulu gets control and yells at Chekov on pocket com to get himself and every one else out now. The ship arcs up and clips some city spires. Kirk Spock and Chekov materialize and all see dieing ship arc up and set course for VINDICATOR. Sulu yells as red sparks surround him and ENTERPRISE slams into VINDICATOR and surprised engineer. Sulu materializes on Klingon transporter pad. Klingon commander orders over coms that the federation warriors have the right of allies. Crew witnesses Uhura is released and Kirk collapses Chokes about his ship and asks what he has done, and closes eyes. Next we see a great Klingon battle cruiser with other Klingon and Federation ships in the neutral zone. In a great bay of the battle cruiser we see klingons and federation officers are at a funereral before a pod with Kirk. Pike is there and the Klingon Commander is speaking in subtitled klingon that even though he was of an weak enemy species, Kirk showed courage and honor worthy of a Klingon. Spock then speaks about how Kirk through emotion and passion yet still achieved a higher Logic that the greatest sages of Vulcan only barely glimpse, but his Logic escapes him and in a...painful hole he only knows..."that I miss my friend." Klingon trumpets that sound vaguely like bagpipes and the Kingons lift their heads and roar as Kirk is committed to the neutral zone CUT TO SEA WITH THE KLINGON metro in background. A Klingon boy in a strange boat reaches into sea and pulls up a jar with dead tribble and it suddenly starts to flutter and tremble.  PAN UP TO SPACE pan down to Earth, drop through atmosphere as we hear Kirk say "SPACE, THE FINAL FRONTIER." We see Iowa shipyard with two ships finishing construction."IN THIS PROPOSAL FOR THE VOYAGES OF THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE:" We see on the saucer of one ship something painted out and repainted 'ENTER/TUTION', 1) A FIVE YEAR MISSION  Pull up to space going out past mars and Jupiter. 2) TO SEEK OUT... goes on until it warps out into ST09 style end credits with the planets.     

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#643589
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Scriptwriting Random Thoughts
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         If I was in charge of a big budget production, I would be uncompromising on two points: 1) The screenwriter should be able to produce good rough drafts of the basic story for different genres and media. Versians written as if exclusively for a novel, a comic book, a radio drama, the stage, TV, epic poem.... Also, as if the story is a pure comedy, tragedy, mystery, action-adventure, horror, morality tale.... Quick attempts as time would permit would help ensure that the writer knows his craft and story structure and hasn't overlooked anything.                2) The screenwriter would also have to submit draft screenplays for movies already produced that might not have met their full potential, with points given for improving an already good tale.              A third requirement, made possible more recently, would be for the writer to submit good fan-edits of existing films, as a strong understanding of film editing is immensely helpful in forming a screenplay.                                   Incidently, these requirements would apply as much to the director, as a strong understanding of story structure and editing is crucial to the direction. A director must be able to help revise as much as necessary and possible on the fly as well as quicly recognize what is likely to work and what needs work. 
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#643444
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Remake the Prequels
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      That's a good point. I wouldn't want SW to fall into that. I wasn't thinking so much as it being "about" the political structure so much as providing a skelatel structure for the story to function.   How did Leia wind up a senator at age 18? What were the Jedi doing before the fall? Why? Hopefully there is a way for quickly and in as much of a shorthand as possible filling in the gaps for as much of the audience as possible. I don't know how much emphasis public education in other countries puts on the three branch structure. In the US, I think checks and balances are explained in a rudimentary way by age 11 or 12.      This could also be used to help explain why the Force seems to be so little understood in the galaxy just 20 years after the fall. The women in the Senate and the Jedi might be very concerned about revealing too much power too often because of the tremendous envy and distrust that would generate among the political class.  Females dedicated to useful marraige and subtle behind the throne influence is a bit retro and associated with epic and myth. 
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#643372
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Remake the Prequels
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       About the written or unwritten constitution of the republic, if the Jedi are the Force brotherhood attatched to the judicial branch, and the "Femeret" is the Force sisterhood attached to the legislative branch, then the Sith could be the Force order attached to the executive branch. It seeks to maximize individual power within itself to "do good" as the sole executive or sole secretary down the line.             There could be dangers for each Force order. The judicial Jedi might become too concerned with order and calm over justice and the interests for individuals. The Femeret might be in danger of becoming too interested in the corrupt deals and interests is balancing groups and deals. The executive isn't evil in itself but the most in danger of falling to evil. The Femeret and Jedi establish control over their respective branches in part to bloc the Sith from their natural place.
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#642529
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Remake the Prequels
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        The entire saga is about the fall and return of Anike. Yet Luke is the central character throughout the OT. Vader is "secondary".  Yeah, maybe following the same pattern throughout the PT should be considered.                              I heard MH speak about how the OT had Han to serve as the skeptical outside perspective and the audience could identify and sympathize and use Han to represent their own perspective. There wasn't really that sort of character in the PT. If Ani begins his journey as that secondary skeptical character it might add depth and sympathy to his character. Maybe he could begin in denial about the Force and his own insight and power, reejecting and scoffing at Obi as a defense mechanism against the truth which has deeply shaken his perceptions. Maybe he could be unhappy about this tremendous power and responsibility and be reluctant and afraid of being consumed by it, deflecting with doubts and distrust for those who could educate him. Maybe he could begin by suffering by  this power he wanted escape.
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#641913
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What single (Non-SW) movie from the last 30 odd years has come closest to the spirit of Star Wars?... and why?
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     Actually, I think that if someone in Hollywood wants to produce and finance THE FIGHTING TEA PARTIERS OF IRAQ because everyone NEEDS to understand the heroism and plight of white male small businessmen taken from reserves and hurled into combat, he should go right ahead. I'm just a little concerned that the SW universe would descend into that sort of thing. It's not necessary. The Damsel In Distress/Distressing Damsel architype of the 30's and early 40's provided a strong and positive character profile for Leia. There are ways to handle these things with some subtle PC. No need to club people over the head. I hope SW will remain true to what it is.
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#641710
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What single (Non-SW) movie from the last 30 odd years has come closest to the spirit of Star Wars?... and why?
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     To return to RED TAILS, I suspect the reason it didn't click with a wider audience is the same as the inevitable failure of a movie called THE FIGHTING TEA PARTIERS OF IRAQ, Celebrating a small group for their particular charactteristics and viewpoints rather than simply targeting the widest possible audience for escapist entertainment.  I'm glad ANH was made in it's era and with it's pre-PC Westerns and WWII propaganda features Fantasies tropes. Maybe the ST set decades into the future of the galaxy will have a bit more space for PC pandering, but ESB, ROTJ, and the PT had too much of that beside-the-point, jar-you-out-of-the-movie nonsense as is. As I've said before, it's unavoidable for a movie to be entirely without a "message" as they involve human drama and experience and there is always some political and social aspect to that, but the goal should be to make a movie for maximum popular entertainment value and make any unavoidable political and social aspects serve that purposel rather than the other way around. There is enough material available from history and legend to build strong minority and female characters. GL managed to slip in messeges about slavery and discrimination using robots. 
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#641410
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What single (Non-SW) movie from the last 30 odd years has come closest to the spirit of Star Wars?... and why?
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        I'd give POTC alot of points for managing to capture the "Makin'-it-up-as-we-go, off-the-cuff" energy of the ANH characters.  It's set in a very particular time and place, so it couldn't quite have that peculiar ANH sense of timelessness.  It had a good dose of mystical, magical elements. POTC would be a good study if ever there is a female main protagonist in the SW universe.
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#641187
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Star Wars 9 Film Saga... Abrams Edition?
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     A "Director's Fanedit"? Sounds like a great idea! I don't know if LFL/Disney would want to get behind such a project, but with a bit of a budget, some reworked fx, added deleted scenes, and Abrams' sharp sense of pace it could be something terrific! It would be awesome to get something like that before the ST comes, but I suppose Abrams is a little busy. Oh well, fun idea that probably will never be.
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#641117
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Do you want death star in your life time? Support free market fascism.
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       "Free Market Fascism" is an OXYMORON.  Fascism is a mix of socialism and government controlled "private" entities. Hitler was a son of a civil servant and a socialist who greatly admired Marxism except for the Jewishness of Marx and the internationalist flavor. Mussilini felt likewise. Fascism is a LEFTWING, SOCIALIST movement. All of the major leftwing parties of the first world are promoters of Economic Fascism. Obama is expanding both socialism and government domination of "private" enterprises as quickly as he can. The Free Market is a system where there is no undue impediments to small and medium sized private companies entering and competing. The "fastest economic growth" enriches everyone in a society who doesn't mess with drugs, unwed parenthood, and acquires a high school diploma or is willing to contribute to a productive and positive workplace (excepting the truly disabled.)   You really need to get your basic terms straight before you try to comment further.