I was gonna say. Really it doesn’t have to be deeper than pretty colors.
Yeah, agreed. SW has always had a flair for striking visuals, so it fits fine.
What color was TLJ Yoda’s lightning?
I did a test of this, and the song “Devil in the Kitchen” syncs up extremely well with the Darth Maul fight:
Start the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNVTUh5yviI
Start the muted fight 1 second/1.5 seconds after:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8G3BKjGjJmA
Give it time to start to match.
Anything that diversifies the colour pallet on Exogol gets a Yes from me.
Grey with green sNNNoooooooke!
Fixed to be better.
Kylo Searches the Falcon - No time code
Most of it is not my work, but I did touch it up a bit.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zBPwVfzpl8kW58uNOWS5UPHgDklb3kMt/view?usp=sharing
That’s good stuff.
Did someone edit out the “SOLO!” line as well?
General reminder that Mandolorian season 2 is coming out in one month and will have a whole new host of continuity changes.
Would you send me Qui-Gon saying, “Bring balance to the Force”? That might be nice to include at any rate.
Sent 👍
Send it this way, I’ll take a look at possibilities for Qui-Gon line
On this topic, Brewzter, would you happen to have any possible dialogue of Qui-Gon saying anything like:
My apprentice died, my apprentice fell, Obi-Wan died, Obi-Wan paid the price, I lost my student, etc. etc.
Anything at all that has Liam Neeson indicating Obi-Wan died?
At work a few weeks ago I had an idea for a recontextualizing of TFA’s backstory that might be doable in a fanedit?
Sounds like a pretty good idea. You’d have to heavily edit the dialogue, but it’s doable.
Not sure if you’re into the expanded universe but the official canon portrays a very similar scenario. The New Republic was split in two parties: there were those who appreciated the old regime and wanted a centralised government and more powerful military, and there was the faction led by Leia that favored liberty and autonomy of individual planets. Some of Leia’s political allies backed the Resistance, while many opposing Senators eventually defected to the First Order.
Honestly man, I wouldn’t really think hard about canon in the fanedit community. JJ, Rian, KK…they all sort of did their own thing and broke canon whenever it served their story. Most of the EU stuff from TFA to ROS contradicted itself after each new movie came out, worse than with Lucas and the fan community’s “S tier / A tier” canon stuff back in the day. It’s pretty clear that even after Disney wiped the EU clean to get a clean non-muddled united continuity…they actually didn’t care and it’s gonna become the same mess of licensed fanfiction.
In 2020, no one at Lucasarts cares about canon except Dave Filoni and crew.
So what I’m really saying is that faneditors should be free to do whatever they please, we should encourage total artistic freedom in this medium.
DH was 2 movies though? I don’t get what you mean.
I consider DH to be one long story from one book, so it doesn’t break the pattern of the other 6 stories.
I don’t know if I’ve talked about this before and if I have it’s been a long time, but having two Saga films take place back to back just kinda irks on an irrational level.
No, that bothers me, and I think others too. Even a few casual fans I know in the post-discussion coffee talk said “I’m confused, why’d they rush it? Harry Potter did it right.” Referencing how every HP movie took place in a different school year to give its narrative time to catch its breath (DH wasn’t 2 movies).
If you can find someone saying the words “Jorus C’baoth” you’ll get the EU crowds very intersted.
Re: Poe’s arc.
If there were a way to insert JJ’s Poe ideas from ROS into TFA, that would give his character some depth.
In fact, a lot of ROS’s ideas have potential, they were just totally useless being introduced in the third act.
For example, the First Order kicking down doors like cops–that should’ve been in TFA, or at least the start of TLJ, to establish exactly what they were doing when they took over.
A radical restructure of TFA where Poe is introduced as the smuggler but already part of the rebels (showing hos desperate Leia is for troops) would make him more interesting.
This would be amazing if you could pull it off.
Making the sequel trilogy about clones would’ve thematically flowed well from the prequels, too.
So TFA starts off real strong, but when Han and Chewie enter the picture, it starts to lose steam. By the time they reach Starkiller Base it’s like the writers have just given up. What can be done about this? How do we improve the second half of the film (and if possible distance it from ANH)?
It’d be very hard, but if you rework the trilogy to have no Palpatine, you could try and move Starkiller to be the climatic third film’s setting instead of Exogal. This will shorten the runtime drastically, but it’s possible. Maybe have part of Luke’s exile to be trying to figure out a way to remotely destroy Starkiller (“the ability to destroy planets is insignificant compared to the power of the Force”). Maybe combine the lightspeed ramming scene with Luke, demonstrating that not only is it 1 in a million, only a Jedi could do it…which would make a perfect circle with the original Death Star.
It’d certainly make the sequels more interesting to watch.
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic but I know a few others here were interested. I’ve worked for awhile on continuing to add the final TROS trailer’s music into the movie:
It’s still a bit rough when the music goes in and out since I can’t find a way to gradually increase or decrease it, so I have to cut the ends into numerous quarter-second chunks that quickly increase or decrease in volume, leaving the audio somewhat clippy/chunky.
However, the music placement and transitions are improved and I made custom sound effects to replace the original rocks crumbling and explosions (I had to keep the blaster fire for a second though which sounds slightly odd with a pinch of the original music peaking through… I might just cut this part out). I’ll still try to improve it anyway I can but this is good enough for me now to add as audio on my own into the final edit when it’s complete 😃
I like what you’ve done, but man it’s weird to have uplifting music while seeing people get vaporized.
But I guess that’s every adventure/fantasy/war movie.
Some people have been talking about getting the missed opportunity for Luke, Leia, and Han to get together on screen.
I think it’s possible, we just have to be creative. We just need footage of Harrison Ford, Hamill, and Fisher in Star Wars like costumes.
Ford: Cowboys and Aliens footage can be rotoscoped in.
Hamill: TLJ deleted scenes. The “party” scene has Luke laughing with a blank background, that’s a good one. Plenty of voiceover work for Mark can be used.
Fisher: Harder to find live action, but there’s a good source of space-y dialogue as Mon Mothma in Family Guy and Robot Chicken. Might be possible to do over-the-shoulder shots. Otherwise maybe a deepfake of younger Fisher made to look older may be an option. There’s plenty of headshots in interviews, like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_zrbEkCDOU but the outfits aren’t space-y enough.
I like the idea but it could be awkward to insert him into a single-shot flashback.
Would only work as something rotoscoped out of ROTJ I’d imagine, intention would only be he’s just watching them train. Doesn’t matter, just something I’d like to see if done well.
I know a good source, actually, let’s talk about it more in the main thread.
I’ve been looking forward to this!
Okay but what would any of this achieve? Leave it as Han’ backstory and move on.
Fun?
This is a no fun zone!!! Didn’t u get the memo?!
With current SW fans, having fun is non canon.
Welp, that totally puts that whole train of speculation to bed.
To be fair, I suppose we do have to acknowledge that Vader-as-father only came in an early ESB script, and Leia-as-sister only existed as an idea for ROTJ, so Star Wars does kind of have this ‘laying the tracks before the train’ approach.
But still, I don’t think that justifies this lack of oversight and planning for what should have been a cohesive trilogy from the start.
EU media will gradually embed Palpatine-as-grandfather in the canon more solidly, but personally I’ll always prefer Rey Nobody, especially knowing how little it mattered to the production team.
All valid points. I very much get where they got the impulse to freewheel it- not wanting to tie themselves down and wanting to recapture some of the ‘free’ atmosphere of the original trilogy, which, like you said, was equally freewheeled original trilogy. It was definitely a mistake.
Major difference was that it was all Lucas freewheelin’ it back in 1980, so there was at least one cohesive goal…whereas it was 3 different directors and writers all mostly ignoring each other for the sequels.
Not really true, Lucas famously hated a lot of the things Irvin Kershner was doing in Empire Strikes Back. And it was often others coming up with those big ideas and changes, most prominently Kasden and Kershner in Empire.
The other influences may be present, sure, but Lucas was still at the helm with his vision guiding things overall.
I read a theory that Rey was the embodiment of Anakin’s “chosen one” force energy that was diffused out when he died.
Would’ve been more interesting, especially since it would explain why Kylo would be drawn to her.
Welp, that totally puts that whole train of speculation to bed.
To be fair, I suppose we do have to acknowledge that Vader-as-father only came in an early ESB script, and Leia-as-sister only existed as an idea for ROTJ, so Star Wars does kind of have this ‘laying the tracks before the train’ approach.
But still, I don’t think that justifies this lack of oversight and planning for what should have been a cohesive trilogy from the start.
EU media will gradually embed Palpatine-as-grandfather in the canon more solidly, but personally I’ll always prefer Rey Nobody, especially knowing how little it mattered to the production team.
All valid points. I very much get where they got the impulse to freewheel it- not wanting to tie themselves down and wanting to recapture some of the ‘free’ atmosphere of the original trilogy, which, like you said, was equally freewheeled original trilogy. It was definitely a mistake.
Major difference was that it was all Lucas freewheelin’ it back in 1980, so there was at least one cohesive goal…whereas it was 3 different directors and writers all mostly ignoring each other for the sequels.
Okay but what would any of this achieve? Leave it as Han’ backstory and move on.
Fun?
Rework Solo to make it about Han Solo…jr.
Use a scene of older Harrison Ford talking about his son, then cut to Alden Ehrenreich.
That would be QUITE the rework, haha. What would you do about the Empire?
Change every word “empire” to be “first order”, of course.
But the Stormtroopers aren’t the same… would you have someone CG out helmets?
That’d be the complicated way.
The easier way is to insert a line “these old uniforms are being phased out next year. Just use them for now, rookie.”