That guy with no name

Mocata said:

The restoration has already been done… by the hobbyists and fans.

Library of Congress was never given an original negative, it was the Special Edition right?

a bit late, but no. They only ever later received 35mm-prints to maintain copyright (which you can schedule to watch there) so in an ironic way, George didn’t want these films to be available, but he also didn’t want to stop owning them.

In 1997, as part of the restoration, the newly assembled negative was scanned and digitally restored in 2k. does this mean that there is currently a 2k file of the original film(s) sitting in lucasfilm archive?

Ejn said:

Actually, Mathews original story was that he took it out because he hated it and George didn’t notice.

Curious, where did you hear his original story as you put it?

https://blastpointspodcast.com/2022/04/26/episode-308-the-special-luke-scream-mystery/

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My username is “that guy with no name” aka “ThatGuyWithNoName” aka “TGWNN” because I thought it was funny, no reference to Clint Eastwood, but people still thought that was the case, so I changed my profile to him for a while.

Avatar/PFP is of David st. hubbins (Michael McKean) from spinal tap.

.Mac. said:

G&G-Fan said:

She needed to prove herself to Jabba. This is a gangster, he doesn’t just let any schmuck in.

Would Vito Corleone just let anybody hang around his property?

did she absolutely have to bring in Chewie?

umm… Jabba had a bounty on his head… Did you forget? where the hell is Luke and lea supposed to find someone else with a bounty? they’re not bounty hunters. Chewie was her ticket in.

Sirius said:

I don’t know if Adywan ever added this, but did anyone ever mention making Leia cry after the destruction of Alderaan? I mean, put tears streaming down her face and stuff. I don’t know if it’s possible to do this with the available scenes.

Hmm… That would be pretty damn cool.

Telion said:

The marvel SW comics are not the source you are looking for.

Yeah, I also rolled my eyes at that.

G&G-Fan said:

When he said he never came back from “this awful place” he was probably referring to Tatooine.

Yup, you’re right. He says “Lando Calrissian and poor Chewbacca never returned from this awful place.”
Because Lando and chewie immediately left for tatooine at the end of empire.

Alrighty… here’s something a little different.
This is a clip I’ve been working on even before I release the first Beta clip… It’s a 6-shot section of the movie FULLY remastered, I mean Dirt/scratches, DNR masking, color correction, And in glorious 4K! This is what the Final Release will look like. Now there was an arant scratch here or there that got away, but it’s pretty damn close. This 6-shot section took me almost 2 months to finish. aswell as asking a friend to run the shots through Neat Video for me, using the noise profiles I had made. The longest shot was the one with the sand people throwing Luke on the ground because it required so much damn masking, but it wasn’t the hardest; the hardest was the first shot of R2-D2- it has an unbelievable amount of dirt and so many scratches, which where almost impossible to remove. But either way here it is (comp coming soon):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dly6xCln45UId589l-U398vouQUBpfDV/view?usp=sharing

also, if you want to keep tabs on this project please visit the other forum, where I’m more active about this project. I keep forgetting to post about it here… I’m not even sure If I posted Beta clip 2 here either.

Same as above. I know that williarob made the site, but what exactly happened to it? also any alternatives out there?

G&G-Fan said:

That guy with no name said:

This maybe a conversational opinion, But frankly but the D+ preservations don’t look that good.
You can see the salvaged DNR and added grain as well as faulty rotoscoping.
So no I wont be using that as a source, Also 4K80 is nearly finished.

Not only can these issues be rectified, but it fixes issues with the 2011 versions that can’t. Like the crushed blacks.

This shot of Vader is complete non-sense with the Blu-Ray, and you can’t fix it. You can’t get that back.

Here’s the 2019 version. You can actually see Vader’s mask! It’s a miracle!

The colors of the 2004 master were permanently altered beyond repair. Lots of the colors were so oversaturated or crushed that the original colors aren’t even there anymore. Even the best regrades can’t recover what’s lost.

Yeah, since that post I’ve actually changed my mid. Quite a bit. The 2004 master will remain my primary source. Mostly because the 2019 Blu-ray, even though it’s of higher quality, is just too zoomed in and stretched. But for shots like the one above, I’ll be replacing those will custom-fitted 2019 shots. I’ll post a test soon.

DarthTzetzo said:

That guy with no name, have you considered replacing “evil” with “Sith”, or changing it to “The evil Sith lord Darth Vader” in the opening crawl?

“Sith” is more of a prequel term. I know it’s mentioned in the ANH deleted scene, but still. It’s only ever used in the prequels. The audience at the time of watching ESB don’t even know what a “Sith” is.

Way back when Adywan released a color-corrected version of the ESB Blu-ray (or maybe HDTV I’m unsure) even though it’s not the best quality or bitrate, it is the closest we’ve come to pure Adywan-corrected ESB.

Now, for this reconstruction; I’ve taken an HQ rip of the 2011 Blu-ray (that I made myself) and overlayed the color information of the Adywan Color Corrected ESB. Now we have a High-quality Adywan color-corrected ESB!

Example:
Raw Blu-ray;

Adywan CC:

Reconstruction:

Raw Blu-ray

Adywan CC:

Reconstruction:

Tech Specs:
Size: 37GB
Aspect Ratio: 1920x1080
Audio Track: 5.1 surround sound - English.

As usual please PM me for links.

doubleofive said:

I’m good with the idea that the shuttle is coming from the opposite side of the DS2.

Yeah, and that would explain why you can’t see Endor from the throne room.

adywan said:

Quick update:

https://www.facebook.com/swrevisited/posts/pfbid02MGc6EQrpgkXhMQcLDZXnxg4YV9GRqY9furbPAxU9tVd4QKbQ8dxGt7eJk8LCnGirl

adywan said:

Oh this is a shot that i’ve always hated in the SE. Not only are the added stormtroopers wearing ROTJ helmets, but the compositing is horrendous. The original footage just doesn’t blend in at all with the new. No shadows or floor reflections, the new foreground stormtroopers look very soft/ blurry, yet the troops in the background on the gantry are sharper and in focus. The problem was i just couldn’t replace it with a shot from 4k77 because it stands out as being a different source and lower quality, even with grain reduction ( which to eliminate the grain to a point needed for it to match the blu-ray sources would destroy so much detail). But there’s a lot more software that can be used lately that has enabled me to enhance the 4k77 footage to get it to the quality of the blu-rays. I did try using topaz video enhance AI , which is a great starter to use to help with the grain problem, but that just couldn’t handle it without giving it a weird effect. But splitting the scene into an image sequence i was able to run them through Topaz photo AI and this worked so much better. Of course this was only used as a starting point and can’t be solely used because of anomalies these AI software introduce to the image ( you only have to look at the latest so called restorations of James Cameron’s films for the 4K releases to know what i’m talking about). So there was still a lot more work to do , like dust/ scratch repair, but i have now been able to swap out the SE shot for the original.

That look’s great Ady! great job!

Tobar said:

The mouth grid and the top of the eyes are giveaways.

It’s as if they got dumber. the latter ones look terrible! Full-on facial deformity!

Director said:

Director said:

Hello. This project was supposed to be ready already on September 12, 2024. But due to the lack of time, I had to delay it to 19th day of September, but that also was too little. And eventually the entire project entered a pause. The last time I did any major things to this edit was around May 2024 when I started this project, it had a OT.com post.

CURRENT SITUATION AND BACKGROUND

I started working on this on May 2024, and I used the 2019 Disney edition as the master, but then it took more space than my device could handle, so it was paused until August. I used a new master, but due to the delays, it was paused again.

Now, as of January 2025, I will restart this project. I recently finished the best version for my 1997 preservation, and I have a device which has double the amount of storage the old one had, so I set 20 Gigabytes to be the absolute maximum of this project, and will tend to use only about 10GB. I will use the 2019 Disney editions and reconstruct the 1997 editions using those. The 1997 editions I restored are not usable as the master of this project due to their 1997 quality, so I will reconstruct those using the 2019 master. Many of you will probably ask why can’t I just use 4K97 as the master, and the answer is that it takes too much space, and its colours are difficult to correct, not to mention the German audio in 4K97_V. And the other possible source would be ImBateman’s reconstruction, but ImBateman is not active or sharing the links, and MySpleen torrents have a low amount of seeders, so I will have to reconstruct them myself. I will use the least space-taking 4K77, 4K80 & 4K83 scans to replace changes made after 1997. I will also use the lowest space taking but highest quality clip of Jabba in ANH. I will then colourcorrect these to my liking. I will export the film scans as 720p 24fps. I will then use those 720p scans as the master of my fanedit. So now I will just have to make the changes. I will upload the 1997 reconstructed master somewhere private for myself and delete it from my device, but I will not share it, because it is only used for this fanedit. But unless many of you want to use it, I can share. The previosly mentioned process will start sooner or later.

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Facebook page: ‘Star Wars: Enhanced edition saga’
Website: https://www.starwarsee.wordpress.com/

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Look great!

Hal 9000 said:

WOW. That’s hard to believe that it came from 4K77, such a clean image. Great work, man.

Thanks so much. Sorry If I’m not replying here immediately. I actually started this on the other forum.
So I always check there first.

Alright here’s the first finished sequence of TGWNN’s 4K77 BETA.
It’s in 1080p, just like the full BETA will be. The source footage is in 4K though. Just like the finished release will be. The final release will also have MAJOR Dust/scratches removal unlike this BETA, which has minor to none.
The next sequence I’ll release will be the death star escape. so watch out for that. The finished BETA will follow in a few months (this is very time consuming).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tqfDXwck1oRYcVP5unUB-oyXY1XKJ127/view?usp=sharing
enjoy. I’ll post a comp soon.

Edit: here’s the comp: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HIeUiFYZYBTg6oEKijdILpuw4RKPHguP/view?usp=sharing

CatBus said:

Also, there was a burgeoning underground market in Laserdisc rips prior to the GOUT. Whether this was the intent or not, after the GOUT, Joe Average wasn’t interested in Laserdisc rips anymore. It became an enthusiast-only market.

Also, is it correct that there exists a 2K scan of the original restored print made in 97? we know it was scanned unaltered after they physically resorted it. is it correct to assume that file still exists somewhere?

Haarspalter said:

That guy with no name said:

Mocata said:

It felt more like he was throwing OOT fans his scraps, since it was such a low quality version and a “bonus feature” but I guess this is old news. Of course now time has passed and you have strange people that believe this laserdisc rip represents the quality of that theatrical cuts.

This might have been his intention, to confine the memory of the original cuts to that inferior quality.

Lucas basically ‘confirmed’ that intention during the Cannes 2024 interview:

https://youtu.be/AHXLsHOdPiw?si=sUS8sW1F_aEkUfed&t=3190

I love how he’s outright lying here. The fully restored original negative of the films existed for a short while in 1997 before they physically inserted the new material into it. and they even scanned that negative in 2K! Right now in the Lucasfilm archive, there exists a 1997 2K scan of the original restored negative, before any alteration. why didn’t they release that?

JadedSkywalker said:

The actual state of the negative and whether or not there are sufficient good quality sources to restore the film to its original state lie within Lucasfilm itself.

Of course, we can’t leave things up to chance seeing how since 1997 the entire point of Lucas was to erase that the originals ever existed. They were a rough draft, a work in progress he was forced to release, and he was unhappy with them and so, and on.

It’s completely unconscionable to leave it up to Loc and BFI to have to rescue these movies, as is 4k77 wouldn’t even exist if George had done the right thing.

That’s exactly my thoughts. This was all George’s purposeful doing. If he had actually wanted to release them, he would’ve.