That guy with no name

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Broom Kid said:

That guy with no name said:

Anyway, back to the actuall topic of this thread.

I hope they release the movies in a box set and not separately like the UHDs. Yes, I know they had a “Star Wars Saga” box set, but that had all nine films…

The home video aspect is really interesting to me. We still don’t know WHO this restoration company is, and why they’re using a codename. I kinda/sorta WANT it to be Criterion or Criterion affiliated (Disney has worked with Criterion before. Not frequently, BUT THEY HAVE. And the restoration crews that work on Criterion stuff are VERY FRIENDLY with the Disney folks who do film restoration as well. That’s all a bunch of conjecture and what-if but I also think it would be really, really cool if Disney decided to license an original theatrical trilogy home video release to Criterion.

I know it’s much, much more likely they do it on their own (and they can do it on their own, clearly) but it would be so cool if this was a boutique release, by probably the most well-known/well-respected boutique label. I think it’s a no-brainer it’ll be on Disney+ no matter what (they’ve been sitting on those Vintage labels there forever, LOL)

Either way, I gotta imagine it’s going to be a trilogy set, not a saga set. Especially if they’re trilogy theatrical releases, which I think they almost gotta be.

I would MUCH prefer Disney encoded the disc than Criterion 😅

Even better would be FIM (fidelity in motion)…

DaleJrFan2003 said:

I’d like a box set, but with each film in its own case with original theatrical one sheet art, alongside individual steelbooks.

Don’t even get me started on which poster they should use. Original theatrical or new posters for each film? I
d be interested to see what they go with…

JF_Sanderson said:

If people stop replying to rm4747 hopefully she will stop posting.

+1

Anyway, back to the actuall topic of this thread.

I hope they release the movies in a box set and not separately like the UHDs. Yes, I know they had a “Star Wars Saga” box set, but that had all nine films…

RM4747 said:

JF_Sanderson said:
There is a thread for the leaks and a thread for the rerelease. Leave leak discussion in that thread and this one to celebrate.

Report me, ban me, block me 😃

I can make new accounts here.

I have endless VPNs and IP addresses I could use to get around any bans.

Fairly simple for a website like this that seems to have been cobbled together with 2003 technology and security lol

Big man…

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
The reason they scanned only some shots in 8K is to compensate for the resolution loss in those shots due to generational loss. Again, you would know this, but you don’t.

Don’t speak about stuff you don’t understand, buddy.

Sorry for clogging up the thread, rpvee.

That was already reported by Bill Hunt.

Information which he got from the leaks, not from sources at Lucasfilm, btw.

Also, you said this:

“The notes mentioned that the VistaVision VFX shots are being scanned in 8K, all of the standard 35mm is being scanned in 6K.”

So what happened to that particular statement? You went from being completely certain to “I don’t know, I have no idea”

You went from saying “all of the standard 35mm is being scanned in 6K” to saying “Maybe they also did 8K scans of the grainy CRI VFX shots, no idea.” What a JOKE.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
So, where did I say the 6K scans were done in 2012? Where? I’m waiting…

The Cintel scans were also 6K, just done earlier…

No, don’t change the subject. You’re referring to the Cinelabs because you said “they were done in Dec 2023.” So you made up that I said they were done in 2013. You lied to try to discredit me. But you failed.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
and then the 8K scans for select (not just VV) shots

Ok, so you’re just being pedantic?

Maybe they also did 8K scans of the grainy CRI VFX shots, no idea.

Either way, the majority of the scans were 6K.

Why they didn’t scan everything in 8K is beyond me, but…

“Now that I’ve been proven wrong, I’ll just say I had no idea the whole time”

The reason they scanned only some shots in 8K is to compensate for the resolution loss in those shots due to generational loss. Again, you would know this, but you don’t.

Don’t speak about stuff you don’t understand, buddy.

Sorry for clogging up the thread, rpvee.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
So, where did I say the 6K scans were done in 2012? Where? I’m waiting…

The Cintel scans were also 6K, just done earlier…

No, don’t change the subject. You’re referring to the Cinelabs because you said “they were done in Dec 2023.” So you made up that I said they were done in 2013. You lied to try to discredit me. But you failed.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
Also, does the timeline “sTiLl nOt AdD uP”?

I’m confused, are you reading that incorrectly?

That says December 2023, not 2012.

Earlier, you said the 6K scans were done in 2012.

I said the cintels were done in 2012. At this point, you’re just lying…

So, where did I say the 6K scans were done in 2012? Where? I’m waiting…

Everything I said was true:
Cintels were done in 2013
Cinelabs in 2023
and then the 8K scans for select (not just VV) shots

What a joke.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Either way, this should shut you up and prove that there was in fact a new 8K scan and that it’s not just VistaVision shots as you wrongly stated

I have no idea what that is.

That’s a heavily cropped image, and very well may have VistaVision VFX in it.

4-perf 35mm from 1977 doesn’t have 8K resolution anyway, and all of the leaked footage so far has mentioned 6K Cinelab scans.

The few clips I’ve seen that have mentioned 8K were VistaVision VFX shots.

So you’re purposely being dumb now? That’s the landspeeder shot I cropped to censor info, which you said was fine… It’s not a vistavision shot…

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
The majority of people on this forum, besides you, believe me. And I have already told you why I haven’t released this, but you might have short-term memory, so I won’t bully you on that one, so I’ll repeat it again. (maybe write it down this time): The leaks I chose not to share on this thread have sensitive information.

Did you get that, or do I have to dumb it down for you? Maybe I need to draw it in crayon for you to understand it…

Why would I supply and allow all these leaks to be posted here, then lie about this?

I’m sure they do, since 90% of them are already members of your group lol

This is a pretty niche site.

The gatekeeping is annoying to everyone else, and we don’t believe it without proof.

You could certainly post it while censoring employee information or names.

In any case, I’m not impressed by your “knowledge”.

I’ll wait until 2027 and see what they release, since apparently no one has any further information they’d like to share outside of their silly private groups.

Why Lucasfilm hasn’t shut down the ALI YouTube page by now is beyond me, has to be an employee leak at this point, especially if there’s been multiple YouTube channels.

I don’t give a flying shit if you’re impressed by me or not. The last person whose opinion I could care about is yours.

Also, does the timeline “sTiLl nOt AdD uP”?

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Again, that is an older leak, and we have received newer ones with updated information. The cintel was done for catalog reasons. And there have been further 8K scans of elements other than VistaVision. Again, you have limited incomplete information. Do you know about the Photochemical restoration? Of course you don’t…

I’m tired of listening to you. Quick question, who sent you to this forum to cause trouble? Because you don’t seem to understand that people can be more informed than you…

As I said earlier, no one believes you have any information without proof.

Put up or shut up.

You could easily post proof, but you don’t. For no reason other than wanting to feel special.

You can keep saying you’re more informed and you have insider knowledge, and keep claiming you have all of this proof that you can’t share (for unknown reasons) over and over and over again.

No one believes you. It’s becoming sad and desperate. Clinging to relevance.

Either post the proof, or stop talking about it.

The majority of people on this forum, besides you, believe me. And I have already told you why I haven’t released this, but you might have short-term memory, so I won’t bully you on that one, so I’ll repeat it again. (maybe write it down this time): The leaks I chose not to share on this thread have sensitive information.

Did you get that, or do I have to dumb it down for you? Maybe I need to draw it in crayon for you to understand it…

Why would I supply and allow all these leaks to be posted here, then lie about this?

Either way, this should shut you up and prove that there was in fact a new 8K scan and that it’s not just VistaVision shots as you wrongly stated:

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Again, a person with your limited information should not be answering questions like this. The cintel scans were done in 2012 or maybe a bit later (around 2015-ish), then the cinelabs were done very recently (perhaps even last year…), then there was a photochemical restoration, then it was scanned in at 8K, and no, not just of the vitavision…

Hmm… that timeline doesn’t add up.

Lowry Digital did the 4K scans and restoration in 2011-2012 for the planned 3D theatrical release that never happened, and those scans were used for the current 4K releases in 2019-2020.

Why would they do a 6K scan immediately after they had just done a 4K scan?

Based on the leaked documents, all of the 4-perf 35mm was scanned at 6K, and the 8-perf VistaVision was scanned at 8K.

I have saved images of the documents lol you can’t gatekeep.

Again, that is an older leak, and we have received newer ones with updated information. The cintel was done for catalog reasons. And there have been further 8K scans of elements other than VistaVision. Again, you have limited incomplete information. Do you know about the Photochemical restoration? Of course you don’t…

I’m tired of listening to you. Quick question, who sent you to this forum to cause trouble? Because you don’t seem to understand that people can be more informed than you… Not to mention even newer scans done on the Laergraphics director that have surfaced.

I have saved images of the documents lol you can’t gatekeep.

RM4747 said:

JF_Sanderson said:

Rm4747 you are tilting at windmills. Editing your posts isn’t going to help give yourself a better image. What exactly are you fighting for??

Huh? No idea what any of this means.

I couldn’t care less about my “image” with a bunch of faceless, nameless nerds on a forum lol

Lucasfilm is going to do what they will, regardless of what anyone here does or says.

Again, a person with your limited information should not be answering questions like this. The cintel scans were done in 2012 or maybe a bit later (around 2015-ish) and was done by disney for catalouging reasons and is not used in this resotration anymore, then the cinelabs were done very recently (perhaps even last year…), then there was a photochemical restoration, then select shots were scanned in at 8K, and no, not just of the vitavision…

RM4747 said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Didn’t the Special Edition restoration take 2 years to do? These things do take time.

Yes, though it doesn’t take 5 years to restore 3 movies, especially not for a company with the resources of Disney.

From what’s leaked, apparently the scans at least started in 2022, though I’m not sure if all scans were done then.

There was apparently an original 6K Cintel scan. Then they went back at some point later and did Cinelab 6K scans and 8K scans of the VistaVision.

Not sure if those were also done in 2022, or later.

But all of the leaked clips have a 2025 copyright date on them, so I’m not sure what work was done between 2022-2025.

Again, a person with your limited information should not be answering questions like this. The cintel scans were done in 2012 or maybe a bit later (around 2015-ish), then the cinelabs were done very recently (perhaps even last year…), then there was a photochemical restoration, then it was scanned in at 8K, and no, not just of the vitavision…

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

We didn’t just come out of nowhere, claiming we have info you don’t, we have an ethos, we have credibility. Everything that leaked did not leak from the actual source: the YouTube channel, but from within our archive, and not everything made its way out. Everything in this thread has been pre-approved by me for public release… Because most of these screenshots were taken by me… We have been discussing these leaks for almost an entire year, privately. We have a multitude of information that we chose not to release. Why? Because it’s sensitive info that might get people in trouble. You either accept that, so we can have a proper conversation, or you can remain in ignorance. And at this point, you don’t know the half of it.

Credibility? Who gave you credibility?

According to the FAQ, you randomly saw the ALI YouTube page in your recommendations. That’s not a leak, that’s dumb luck.

That’s assuming it’s true, many people (including EckhartsLadder) believe it was more likely leaked by an employee working on the restoration, and this story of someone accidentally discovering the YouTube channel is unlikely, and doesn’t pass the smell test.

Yeah, I’m sure you care deeply about the names you censored from the documents lol

Like “Supervised by K.K.”

Yeah… really hard to imagine who that might be… thank god you censored that one. Really would put her job at risk!

Firstly, you insinuating that I’m lying is hilarious considering I’m backed up by thousands of people who witnessed the discovery… Secondly, K.K. is not censoring Kathleen’s name. That’s just how it was written on the OG document… The other names have been censored, and we were clearly successful at that, considering you don’t know who they are. Kennedy does not need to have her name protected, as she’s not some low-level employee who can be fired. Eckhart’s ladder is the least credible source for this, as he received these leaks through a mole in our conversation, and when I asked him to hold off on releasing a video to avoid endangering people’s livelihoods, he lied to me and released it anyway… Either way, the leaks currently public are only partial as we locked down the archive after it occurred. The majority of the actually informative leaks happened afterwards and thus are not public and accessible to characters like you… thanks god they’re not…

Also, we were not gatekeeping this to “feel important” we, unlike yourself, don’t need that sort of social gratification. We kept these leaks to ourselves (mind you, they were publicly accessible on YouTube and we never hindered or suppressed that access), but all the HQ captures, and comparisons made BY US did not need to be shared, and we were entitled to keep those to ourselves. Is it our responsibility to announce these things when they occur? The person who leaked these from the conversation broke our trust and the rules to score a few extra internet points on Reddit and Eckhart’s ladder. People who couldn’t even discuss the leaks without getting things wrong anyway…

The fact that you keep ignoring our expertise and outright claiming that I’m a liar because it “doesn’t pass the smell test” like some conspiracy theorist is what makes you unlikable to everyone here.

RM4747 said:

Broom Kid said:

No one here knows anything I don’t know

This is sort of the problem I’m trying to get at, your inability to consider that’s not correct

Claims of insider knowledge or leaks require proof.

“Trust me, bro” is not a source.

Either post the screenshots and documents, or stop talking about it and claiming to have information.

No one will believe you otherwise.

We didn’t just come out of nowhere, claiming we have info you don’t, we have an ethos, we have credibility. Everything that leaked did not leak from the actual source: the YouTube channel, but from within our archive, and not everything made its way out. Everything in this thread has been pre-approved by me for public release… Because most of these screenshots were taken by me… We have been discussing these leaks for almost an entire year, privately. We have a multitude of information that we chose not to release. Why? Because it’s sensitive info that might get people in trouble. You either accept that, so we can have a proper conversation, or you can remain in ignorance. And at this point, you don’t know the half of it.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

oojason said:

They are still leaking

I always found the “some guy randomly saw the videos in his YouTube recommendations” story a little fishy.

Seems more likely to me this was leaked by someone working on the restoration.

As the guy in question, I can confirm this is no true…

So how are things still leaking? lol

Wouldn’t they have immediately fixed the auto-uploader and made everything private when they were aware it had leaked?

Hard to believe someone working there isn’t involved if things are still leaking.

Well, you better believe it.

RM4747 said:

oojason said:

They are still leaking

I always found the “some guy randomly saw the videos in his YouTube recommendations” story a little fishy.

Seems more likely to me this was leaked by someone working on the restoration.

As the guy in question, I can confirm this is not true…

YAREL_RGP said:

That guy with no name said:

RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

They probably scanned the three separation masters in 4K since they were only interested in the color, planning to combine them later and use them as a reference for grading the OCN. But if they did that with the three masters, I think it would have been faster to scan the three separation masters in 8K, combine them, clean them up a bit, and release it. The separation masters together are a literal, identical copy of the OCN, without the extra grain, since they are black and white copies with finer grain, inked with ink. But all in all, what they are doing is incredible: restoring the original from the degraded OCN to the digital realm, this time in good condition, using miraculous techniques, effort, a large budget, and the most modern and refined techniques since the concept of a “digital master” existed for those restorations of classics. We’ve seen The Wizard of Oz, Lawrence of Arabia, and Blade Runner restored for preservation, respecting their legacy, and now it’s Star Wars’ turn.

But even still, they’re second-generation. Right?

RM4747 said:

They also had the option of scanning the separation masters, which are pretty much pristine and don’t fade at all, but that’s more work/time/money and apparently the negatives were still salvageable.

They did scan the Separation Masters. And used them as a primary reference for color and fade correction.

RM4747 said:

aGreatHumanBeing said:

Onne said:

I would love to see “Definitive Editions” where all the problematic changes are reversed. Obviously, this brings a problem : what to keep and what to reverse?

To make every fan happy, Disney must release this on the streaming service with a questionnaire that the viewer have to fill out before watching the movie:

Do you prefer
a) Han shoots first
b) Greedo shoots first

Do you prefer
a) Yub Nub
b) Victory celebration

…and 50 questions later the streaming will adjust the movie according to your input! 😄

Kathleen Kennedy reading this and banging her head on the desk 😆

“I think I’m ready to retire now…”

Me if I ever meet Kathleen Kennedy after this…
https://streamable.com/6gctjv

That guy with no name said:

Mavimao said:

Guys and gals, we did it.

Well, now that ALI has actually leaked this specific clip, then I guess I should update it…

Mavimao said:

Guys and gals, we did it.

Some Interested Observer said:

Broom Kid said:

It’ll come to streaming & UHD.

That would indeed be nice.

They spent millions of dollars on this and have hired like 300 people. Of course, they’re gonna milk it on home media lol!

Some Interested Observer said:

Do we have any info on how much work they plan to put into restoring the deleted scenes? Obviously there’s a few clips that indicate that they’ve done work on some of these, but could they be creating high quality versions of all of the known cut scenes? (And even some other unseen things, judging by the vimeo clips 🤔)

There was a doc that mentioned a few of the scenes they were working on. Mainly it’s the same stuff that’s available plus the original Jabba scene…