Yeah, guys, definitely just nonsense:
RM4747 is so clever! I wish I were more like him!
That guy with no name said:
they also probably put that hair in after the fact. When you line it up precisely in an editor, it is, in fact, slightly off.Lol, no. That’s completely ridiculous and nonsense.
It’s not. Stay ignorant & stubborn.
It’s not right. The second one is, in fact, the right one.
Look at 4K77 and the GOUT DVD logo.
The one with the little hair at the top of the screen is the correct logo.
Oh my god. The hair proves nothing; that could have been added in for all I know. It fades in and out at different times, and the light beams are different in terms of look & speed.
On the other hand, the second logo is almost identical to the Original, besides the hair, which was probably cleaned as per the restoration…
The position isn’t different. Look at where the hair is in the light beam. Exactly the same.
Looks like the first image just isn’t cropped in as much, whereas 4K77 and the new scan are cropped in slightly more, and they removed the hair lol
I’m sure some purists will be upset about the missing hair haha
That’s another thing: the orignal Fox logo element used for Star Wars was always cropped like that. In fact, all that extra information doesn’t exist in the Star Wars version of the logo. They most likely couldn’t find a high-quality version of the correct logo, so that was probably from a different film. Which explains why it’s different; they also probably put that hair in after the fact. When you line it up precisely in an editor, it is, in fact, slightly off. I guess they ended up finding the original and cleaning up the hair.
The second one is correct. Not the first.
It’s not right. The second one is, in fact, the right one.
Look at 4K77 and the GOUT DVD logo.
The one with the little hair at the top of the screen is the correct logo.
Oh my god. The hair proves nothing; that could have been added in for all I know. It fades in and out at different times, and the light beams are different in terms of look & speed.
On the other hand, the second logo is almost identical to the Original, besides the hair, which was probably cleaned as per the restoration…
Some Interested Observer said:
If I’m not mistaken, that 20th Century logo is the first example we have of two versions of the same scene being uploaded? Perhaps this is a very small insight into how they’re evaluating different sources?
Yeah. It seems that this second one is the correct one. The old one was slightly different…
The one with the hair is the correct one, the top one.
It’s possible the 2nd one is from an international release or something, since they’re scanning foreign languages too.
It’s not right. The second one is, in fact, the right one.
“old” ALI (adjusted to match 4K77):
4K77
“new” ALI
The light beams are different and move at different speeds; the overall proportions of the image are different, too. The hair might have been superimposed in because its position is also slightly different…
Some Interested Observer said:
If I’m not mistaken, that 20th Century logo is the first example we have of two versions of the same scene being uploaded? Perhaps this is a very small insight into how they’re evaluating different sources?
Yeah. It seems that this second one is the correct one. The old one was slightly different…
I hope I am not not overstepping here, but the preview just posted by the editor is best watched after downloading it. There is noticeable compression when streaming video on Google Drive.
The downloaded file has the clip with proper color and 4k quality.
This is news to you?
i still can imagine if lucus arts and lucus films releases a undone pre special edition uncut unrated and uncensored super extended verison along with a 1997 special edition style uncut unrated and uncensored super extended verison for the 50th anniversary
Eh?
what if for the 50th anniversary lucus arts and lucus films releases
a non 1997 special edition uncut unrated and uncensored super extended verison
a 1997 special edition style uncut unrated uncensored super extrended verison
LucasArts was dissolved on April 3, 2013. It hasn’t existed for 13 years. Have you been drinking?
NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON & NEW VIDEO CLIP - FROM Star Wars…
ALI…
This shot looks great, but Han’s looks kind of weird.
hhhhh… Again, The Midtones and highlights are suppressed here so as not to blow out the Subtitles… this will most likely change when this is tonemapped…
“This time, instead of taking PM requests, I’ll have an email system where you’ll email a copied sentence and automatically receive a reply with a link. All the information will be in a published Google Doc to separate it from this site.”
I’ve seen faneditors do this but I’m wondering how you’ll do this on OT.com without breaking a rule.
This is not a direct link and thus does not break any rules. All information and instructions will be in a separate Google Doc, which is the only link on this site. This is no different than asking people to email me for the link; the only difference is that it’s automated.
UPDATE:
A new version is in progress because I was never truly happy with how the colors turned out, and I now have better references for the colors as I’ve acquired an extensive original stills package, which will help me get more accurate colors…
I’ll also be using the 2025 Steelbook master this time, as it has a slightly better encode. There will be two audio tracks: the 4K 7.1 downmixed to 5.1 and the 2013 3D 5.1 Remix.
This time, instead of taking PM requests, I’ll have an email system where you’ll email a copied sentence and automatically receive a reply with a link. All the information will be in a published Google Doc to separate it from this site.
Once complete, I’ll upload some screenshots and post the Google doc with instructions on how to download…
Until then here’s a little preview:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/167naEShFe5FCsEx1wHXqD-gawVp0X3KD/view?usp=sharing
Some Interested Observer said:
Seems like we’ll be getting these new exports for a bit. Apart from the new format obviously, they seem to be lacking the temporary audio and have fewer technical details. Could they possibly be less finished than what we’ve been seeing so far, given some seemingly low contrast on the last one? (or have they just changed the way they’ve gone about showing these).
The last one does not have low contrast… the highlights are a bit flat because they’re trying not to blow out the highlights of the subtitles…
The DOUT isn’t going to be in cinemas for a whole year. Nobody knows about home releases yet. I think waiting for that isn’t practical or desirable, especially as lots of work has already been done.
Why are we calling it DOUT again? There is no other version called “OUT”, why do we have to specify it’s Disney???
Honestly, after the “4K” LOTR trilogy hype with everyone parroting “it will be scanned from ogrinal negatives” which in the end it clearly wasn’t and PJ said as much, I am very much in DOUT it will be everything everyone is saying it will be.
This time we have literal visual evidence…
The DOUT isn’t going to be in cinemas for a whole year. Nobody knows about home releases yet. I think waiting for that isn’t practical or desirable, especially as lots of work has already been done.
Why are we calling it DOUT again? There is no other version called “OUT”, why do we have to specify it’s Disney???
tbf, the new release is not actually unaltered, as they’re re-doing some of the foley
For an alternative audio track, the film with its original stereo mix will remain intact…
The DOUT isn’t going to be in cinemas for a whole year. Nobody knows about home releases yet. I think waiting for that isn’t practical or desirable, especially as lots of work has already been done.
Why are we calling it DOUT again? There is no other version called “OUT”, why do we have to specify it’s Disney???
one key reason to why I have a grudge against you is your attitude, whatever I do “trolling, trolling, trolling,” etc. I believe you should be the one who is reported.
Because what you do and say is so over the top ridiculous no one believes it’s serious…
I checked the leaked clips and yeah maybe I was underreacting a bit. also the 360p thing was an exaggeration because the GOUT DVDs were slop as well.
The gouts were released by a different company 20 years ago… and even they where in 480p… no they’re not upscaled. you out of all people are in no place of expertise on image quality…
ok maybe not 360p but I don’t expect a 4K release. at least not native 4K without any up scaling.
Have you this thread??? We have literally seen leaked images from the new version that are not only in 4K but native 6K!
360p??? You have to be a troll…
@director, What '97 VHS or Laserdisc couldn’t you find? Maybe us helping you locate it will be better for you…
NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON & NEW VIDEO CLIP - DELETED SCENE - FROM EMPIRE STRIKES BACK…
ALI (720p)…
2011 blu ray…
a streamable video clip of the above scene: https://streamable.com/xss331
THE COLORS
Yeah, odd that they found the original elements for this sequence but not the cantina… maybe they’ll replace it
I have a question that is extremely premature. Have you given any thought about incorporating the 50th anniversary releases into your edits?
Sure, when they come out.
So far the deleted stuff is all stuff we’ve seen on the Blus, just higher quality, right?
Yes. There have been several effects shot plates and matte painting passes, leaks, etc, but no new shots or scenes…
A DELETED SCENE FROM EMPIRE STRIKES BACK…
https://streamable.com/lua9rd - a 22 second video clip.
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Id like to see a comparison of this clip and the 2011 blue-ray release to see how much better in quality these deleted scenes are going to be. IDK how the comparison guy gets the actual 4k screencaps, but right now on the 720p streamable it looks close to the 2011 version except for some color correction and a little bit sharper. Only downgrade is there’s way more distracting green noise than in the 2011 version. Hope they remove as much distracting noise from the deleted scenes as possible so we don’t have to do it ourselves 😅
I just hope the deleted scenes will be in good enough quality that adding it into the new ULTRA 8K releases will look seamless (or as seamless as it can look next to 8k).
Also, if someone can explain why the deleted scenes look so low quality compared to the actual movie scenes even though they were both shot with the same equipment Id love to know why.
The Leaks are, in fact, in 4K; it’s just that Streamable’s free plan limits the playback resolution to 720p…
What green noise are you talking about??? This leak appears to be from a higher quality source and is, in fact, softer than the Blu-ray yet still more detailed…
I suspect at least the Disney+ versions will have DNR since it’s better for internet streaming as far as I’m aware.
No need to. All video/film streaming players have built-in compression and DNR…
Do we know if the weird pitch lowering done to Yoda’s voice in the stereo and 70mm mix of ESB will be fixed in the new 7.1 mix? Specifically the scene in his hut when he’s saying “Patience, soon you will be with him” and “Why wish you become Jedi?” etc.
I know it would technically be a change but it isn’t like that in the mono mix so I feel like it may have been a mistake (or they realised that pitching his voice down to make him sound less annoying goes against the point of the scene). Plus it was also “fixed” in the SE
That’s the only thing that bothers me about the original stereo mix of Empire
Most likely.
