That guy with no name

Fruit672 said:

oojason said:

NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON & NEW VIDEO CLIP - DELETED SCENE - FROM EMPIRE STRIKES BACK…

 

ALI (720p)…

 
2011 blu ray…

 

a streamable video clip of the above scene: https://streamable.com/xss331
 

THE COLORS

Yeah, odd that they found the original elements for this sequence but not the cantina… maybe they’ll replace it

honestabe said:

I have a question that is extremely premature. Have you given any thought about incorporating the 50th anniversary releases into your edits?

Sure, when they come out.

timdiggerm said:

So far the deleted stuff is all stuff we’ve seen on the Blus, just higher quality, right?

Yes. There have been several effects shot plates and matte painting passes, leaks, etc, but no new shots or scenes…

Fruit672 said:

oojason said:

A DELETED SCENE FROM EMPIRE STRIKES BACK…

 

https://streamable.com/lua9rd - a 22 second video clip.

 
 

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A Mini-Index for info on the ALI OOT Restoration Leaks…

• An Introduction / Overview
• Image Screenshots & Comparisons
• Video & Audio Clips
• Media Coverage & Content
• FAQs
• News & Updates

 

Id like to see a comparison of this clip and the 2011 blue-ray release to see how much better in quality these deleted scenes are going to be. IDK how the comparison guy gets the actual 4k screencaps, but right now on the 720p streamable it looks close to the 2011 version except for some color correction and a little bit sharper. Only downgrade is there’s way more distracting green noise than in the 2011 version. Hope they remove as much distracting noise from the deleted scenes as possible so we don’t have to do it ourselves 😅
I just hope the deleted scenes will be in good enough quality that adding it into the new ULTRA 8K releases will look seamless (or as seamless as it can look next to 8k).
Also, if someone can explain why the deleted scenes look so low quality compared to the actual movie scenes even though they were both shot with the same equipment Id love to know why.

The Leaks are, in fact, in 4K; it’s just that Streamable’s free plan limits the playback resolution to 720p…

What green noise are you talking about??? This leak appears to be from a higher quality source and is, in fact, softer than the Blu-ray yet still more detailed…

MORC said:

I suspect at least the Disney+ versions will have DNR since it’s better for internet streaming as far as I’m aware.

No need to. All video/film streaming players have built-in compression and DNR…

Connor said:

Do we know if the weird pitch lowering done to Yoda’s voice in the stereo and 70mm mix of ESB will be fixed in the new 7.1 mix? Specifically the scene in his hut when he’s saying “Patience, soon you will be with him” and “Why wish you become Jedi?” etc.

I know it would technically be a change but it isn’t like that in the mono mix so I feel like it may have been a mistake (or they realised that pitching his voice down to make him sound less annoying goes against the point of the scene). Plus it was also “fixed” in the SE

That’s the only thing that bothers me about the original stereo mix of Empire

Most likely.

imunfair said:

That guy with no name said:

imunfair said:

Unfortunately it doesn’t look like they’re fixing the one thing I care about - the weird blurring/DNR thing that goes on around Vader’s cape in various scenes. I don’t know at what point that distortion got introduced into the film but it’s in every BluRay release so far, and also appears in shots of this new edition.

Kind of frustrating because it’s one of those minor flaws that you can’t unsee once you notice it.

What clip in particular? I’ll check my HQ archives to see if that’s a YouTube compression issue…
This version does not have DNR.

For the new ones it’s a shot of the emperor walking down the ramp. I originally noticed it on the Vader scene when he enters through the smoke on the BluRay versions (4:33 in A New Hope, watch the stormtrooper legs blur and distort as Vader’s cape flows in front of them).

I made a quick gif to show what I’m talking about since it’s more subtle in this scene than the Vader one: https://bestedit.net/imgs/ot/sw-emperor-cloak.gif

It appears the side of the ship is warping similar to the stormtrooper legs in the BluRay, unless I’m wrong and it’s just an optical illusion from the smoke - can’t completely confirm with such short clips.

That’s just compression. Here’s the Full quality clip:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MfZMHywNVR4T00B6VQ0jfgA741yhO6UP/view?usp=sharing
(There is still some compression.)

I assure you no such DNR problems exist with this new version…

imunfair said:

Unfortunately it doesn’t look like they’re fixing the one thing I care about - the weird blurring/DNR thing that goes on around Vader’s cape in various scenes. I don’t know at what point that distortion got introduced into the film but it’s in every BluRay release so far, and also appears in shots of this new edition.

Kind of frustrating because it’s one of those minor flaws that you can’t unsee once you notice it.

What clip in particular? I’ll check my HQ archives to see if that’s a YouTube compression issue…
This version does not have DNR.

Connor said:

Seriously… what happened to all the color before???

Looking at the UHD now almost gives me an aneurysm… that should be illegal. Do we know who did the “CC” on the 2019 versions? Cause it couldn’t have been Lucas, right?

Charles Bunnag, colorist extraordinaire:

YAREL_RGP said:

oojason said:

NEW SCREENSHOT COMPARISON - AND A NEW VIDEO CLIP - FROM EMPIRE STRIKES BACK…

 

ALI…

https://imgur.com/a/its-beautiful-v6p6f77

This is how you do GIF here:

You right-click on whatever image and copy “image address”, then you place it within this text (the parentheses are part of it):

Like this:

LilBigJP said:

question. is https://streamable.com/toxwb8 from ALI? because if it is they did comparisons with fan projects which is insane

No, that was me… All comparisons here were made by me.

Mocata said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

aileron said:

Does anyone else here know which interview I’m remembering where GL says “the original film/negative/interpositive” was cut up for 97ANH? And the the “original” no longer exists. I’m pretty sure he made it clear but he may have been referring to existing media of that time degrading.

He re-cut the negative, yes. But the trims were saved, not tossed in the trash.

So, he was being honest, on a technicality, that the original negative didn’t exist. But all of its components still existed, just in pieces.

Yes technically their own negative was changed. But in any real sense there’s not “one original reel” since they exist all over the world and have been restored by fans and the BFI etc. Again it’s all somewhere in the big “revisionist” thread pinned above here.

What does this even mean? There is only one negative for the films and that is the one that was “destroyed” or more accurately disassembled. There is in fact “one original reel” and it’s the original negative. Everything else is a copy and therefore is not original, at least not in a physical sense. I’m not even sure why we’re still arguing about this… who cares what George said about the negative, what matters is that we’re getting what we’ve always wanted finally, let’s bicker about the process, after we find out what it actually entailed once released…

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

For those with keen ears, what, if any, differences are you hearing in these clips? Like, is there more clarity in the audio? I honestly can’t hear any difference.

https://streamable.com/i7ieuw?src=player-page-share

Bobson Dugnutt said:

Wicketthewarrick said:

i would like a fanedit of the original versions of the original trilogy and i mean the versions that were released on vhs and aired on tv not the theatricall versions that restores deleted scenes and replaced puppet yoda and puppet jabba with AI jabba and AI yoda and i wish lucas did replaced puppet yoda and puppet jabba from rotj with cgi yoda and cgi jabba and made cgi jabba in rotj look like how he looks like in a new hope because it looks weird for younger fans who watches the movies seeing how different yoda looks like in the original trilogy and how diferent jabba looks like in rotj after seeing him in a new hope and of course i want that fanedit to do what adywan´s did with the emperor look in his esb fanedit

I have never laughed harder.

Some Interested Observer said:

JackNapier said:

theprequelsrule said:

I’m not as excited as I would have been 10 years ago, but still…great news! BUT…I kind of prefer the color grading of 4k77 in most of the shots - I like the slight green shade that it has.

This might not be the finished product when it contains to color. These are leaks after all, so this could be unfinished.

(Still work in progress obviously, a lot of time left to ruin it 😐)

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Broom Kid said:

That guy with no name said:

Anyway, back to the actuall topic of this thread.

I hope they release the movies in a box set and not separately like the UHDs. Yes, I know they had a “Star Wars Saga” box set, but that had all nine films…

The home video aspect is really interesting to me. We still don’t know WHO this restoration company is, and why they’re using a codename. I kinda/sorta WANT it to be Criterion or Criterion affiliated (Disney has worked with Criterion before. Not frequently, BUT THEY HAVE. And the restoration crews that work on Criterion stuff are VERY FRIENDLY with the Disney folks who do film restoration as well. That’s all a bunch of conjecture and what-if but I also think it would be really, really cool if Disney decided to license an original theatrical trilogy home video release to Criterion.

I know it’s much, much more likely they do it on their own (and they can do it on their own, clearly) but it would be so cool if this was a boutique release, by probably the most well-known/well-respected boutique label. I think it’s a no-brainer it’ll be on Disney+ no matter what (they’ve been sitting on those Vintage labels there forever, LOL)

Either way, I gotta imagine it’s going to be a trilogy set, not a saga set. Especially if they’re trilogy theatrical releases, which I think they almost gotta be.

I would MUCH prefer Disney encoded the disc than Criterion 😅

Even better would be FIM (fidelity in motion)…

DaleJrFan2003 said:

I’d like a box set, but with each film in its own case with original theatrical one sheet art, alongside individual steelbooks.

Don’t even get me started on which poster they should use. Original theatrical or new posters for each film? I
d be interested to see what they go with…

JF_Sanderson said:

If people stop replying to rm4747 hopefully she will stop posting.

+1

Anyway, back to the actuall topic of this thread.

I hope they release the movies in a box set and not separately like the UHDs. Yes, I know they had a “Star Wars Saga” box set, but that had all nine films…

RM4747 said:

JF_Sanderson said:
There is a thread for the leaks and a thread for the rerelease. Leave leak discussion in that thread and this one to celebrate.

Report me, ban me, block me 😃

I can make new accounts here.

I have endless VPNs and IP addresses I could use to get around any bans.

Fairly simple for a website like this that seems to have been cobbled together with 2003 technology and security lol

Big man…

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
The reason they scanned only some shots in 8K is to compensate for the resolution loss in those shots due to generational loss. Again, you would know this, but you don’t.

Don’t speak about stuff you don’t understand, buddy.

Sorry for clogging up the thread, rpvee.

That was already reported by Bill Hunt.

Information which he got from the leaks, not from sources at Lucasfilm, btw.

Also, you said this:

“The notes mentioned that the VistaVision VFX shots are being scanned in 8K, all of the standard 35mm is being scanned in 6K.”

So what happened to that particular statement? You went from being completely certain to “I don’t know, I have no idea”

You went from saying “all of the standard 35mm is being scanned in 6K” to saying “Maybe they also did 8K scans of the grainy CRI VFX shots, no idea.” What a JOKE.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
So, where did I say the 6K scans were done in 2012? Where? I’m waiting…

The Cintel scans were also 6K, just done earlier…

No, don’t change the subject. You’re referring to the Cinelabs because you said “they were done in Dec 2023.” So you made up that I said they were done in 2013. You lied to try to discredit me. But you failed.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
and then the 8K scans for select (not just VV) shots

Ok, so you’re just being pedantic?

Maybe they also did 8K scans of the grainy CRI VFX shots, no idea.

Either way, the majority of the scans were 6K.

Why they didn’t scan everything in 8K is beyond me, but…

“Now that I’ve been proven wrong, I’ll just say I had no idea the whole time”

The reason they scanned only some shots in 8K is to compensate for the resolution loss in those shots due to generational loss. Again, you would know this, but you don’t.

Don’t speak about stuff you don’t understand, buddy.

Sorry for clogging up the thread, rpvee.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
So, where did I say the 6K scans were done in 2012? Where? I’m waiting…

The Cintel scans were also 6K, just done earlier…

No, don’t change the subject. You’re referring to the Cinelabs because you said “they were done in Dec 2023.” So you made up that I said they were done in 2013. You lied to try to discredit me. But you failed.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
Also, does the timeline “sTiLl nOt AdD uP”?

I’m confused, are you reading that incorrectly?

That says December 2023, not 2012.

Earlier, you said the 6K scans were done in 2012.

I said the cintels were done in 2012. At this point, you’re just lying…

So, where did I say the 6K scans were done in 2012? Where? I’m waiting…

Everything I said was true:
Cintels were done in 2013
Cinelabs in 2023
and then the 8K scans for select (not just VV) shots

What a joke.

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:

Either way, this should shut you up and prove that there was in fact a new 8K scan and that it’s not just VistaVision shots as you wrongly stated

I have no idea what that is.

That’s a heavily cropped image, and very well may have VistaVision VFX in it.

4-perf 35mm from 1977 doesn’t have 8K resolution anyway, and all of the leaked footage so far has mentioned 6K Cinelab scans.

The few clips I’ve seen that have mentioned 8K were VistaVision VFX shots.

So you’re purposely being dumb now? That’s the landspeeder shot I cropped to censor info, which you said was fine… It’s not a vistavision shot…

RM4747 said:

That guy with no name said:
The majority of people on this forum, besides you, believe me. And I have already told you why I haven’t released this, but you might have short-term memory, so I won’t bully you on that one, so I’ll repeat it again. (maybe write it down this time): The leaks I chose not to share on this thread have sensitive information.

Did you get that, or do I have to dumb it down for you? Maybe I need to draw it in crayon for you to understand it…

Why would I supply and allow all these leaks to be posted here, then lie about this?

I’m sure they do, since 90% of them are already members of your group lol

This is a pretty niche site.

The gatekeeping is annoying to everyone else, and we don’t believe it without proof.

You could certainly post it while censoring employee information or names.

In any case, I’m not impressed by your “knowledge”.

I’ll wait until 2027 and see what they release, since apparently no one has any further information they’d like to share outside of their silly private groups.

Why Lucasfilm hasn’t shut down the ALI YouTube page by now is beyond me, has to be an employee leak at this point, especially if there’s been multiple YouTube channels.

I don’t give a flying shit if you’re impressed by me or not. The last person whose opinion I could care about is yours.

Also, does the timeline “sTiLl nOt AdD uP”?