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- Spence's Obi-Wan Kenobi (V4 Final Released)
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Maaaan, V3 will be a perfect fanedit of this show! Cannot wait!
Maaaan, V3 will be a perfect fanedit of this show! Cannot wait!
Wooooooow
Spence, thats a pure perfection! <33
I’m leaning toward maybe keeping the quiet bit while they stand off, then pivoting to the original music when Kenobi says “I will do what I must”.
That sounds good 😉
About the duel music, I think its one of the very few moments of the show, that doesnt really require any reacoring, the music was really nice there. Also I think that using the battle of heroes is a bit faneditish here. But thats Just my humble opinion. Maybe this theme would worka better somewhere in the middle of the duel?
Love the ideas for v3 So far. The theme you used for the hallway scene fits So great. No one wanted, everyone needed 😄
Just in case anything thought I had abandoned this idea, I haven’t. I took a stab at implementing RogueLeader’s suggestion, along with some preliminary color grading, and pitching up Anakin’s voice. A ton of work still needs to be done on the foley and score for the duel scene, but here is a new test video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lQvxG9rR0zDwwI6yCnMCqBs8fUDLNOXh/view?usp=sharing
Looks great, I’m a big fan of any AOTC extended version ideas 😉 I think this scene would fit really nicely in the movie and it really adds to the whole subplot of Anakin being frustrated that Obi-wan is limitating him. I ve always thought that AOTC is the movie that would benefit a lot if the delete scenes were reinserted there, I have a huge nostalgią for that Episode.
Ahaha Just to clarify, I never minded the direction they went with Luke’s charakter in TLJ. Tho in “Kenobi” I Just thought it to be a bit ouflt of character that he needed to be convinced soo much to go after Leia. Plus, its a bit repetitive with TLJ, I guess I didnt want it to be Luke’s story 2.0, that’s all 😉
@Octorox
I meant cut it when they found her and say hello, them the next time we See her would be already on board of their ship.
So I’ve finally sae the V2. Overall - great job. There are things I thing could/should be changed but in generalnl it’s a very Well edited and coherent fanedit, doesnt feel faneditish. It does the job. And I understand you didnt want to alter the official story too much.
So, things I think could be improved:
-The infamous chase scene on Alderaan. I know its a very repetitive feedback but it can really end once we See a suspicious guy in the Forest saying hello. Its well too obvious they re there to kidnap there.
-The running Jedi on Tatooine - I think it can be cit even more - like to cut from Reva igniting the lightsaber directly to the footagr when he’s seen hanging dead in the Town (btw very good job on trimming the first EP).
-Bail convincing Obi-wan. It should be trimmed even more. Obi-wan wouldnt hesitate So much. Maybe the “Phone call” could be cut? Obi-wan shouldnt even be able to contact Bail So easily in the first place. Anyway, we dont need to See him how he enters the spaceship, we can cut directly to him landing On Daimyu.
-The cameo of Temeura should be reinserted 😭
-btw, not necesary for the story, but would be nice to See how Leia disses her cousin.
-I think we could have even less Haja 😉
“When Leia tells her father that “she’s not a real Organa”, we no longer have the context of it being something Leia was told by her cousin that she internalized. In this new context, it seems like it was Leia’s original thought, which imo doesn’t quite add up. I personally don’t mind Leia’s precocious reading of her cousin because I interpreted it as an example of her latent Force ability. I wonder if there’s any way you could reinstate some of that scene, at least enough to get the original context of the line back”
Maybe you are right about this one, but on the other hand, I forgot that it all started with the cousin being mean and it didnt feel off when I was watching the edit. Anyway, The whole Leia dissing her cousin scene was great.
“In Fortress Inquisitorius, Tala says something to the effect of “what are they hiding down there” but we no longer have the payoff of the Jedi tomb scene. I would just trim this line out if possible”
+1
And, I loved rescoring and all the trimming. And you improved soo soo much the Episode 3.
I ve been following maaaaany fanedit projects for Obi-Wan, but this one seems the most interrsting and creative one. Cannot wait to See it 😉
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Random idea:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ktlF2Ii6tgc
Anyone considered maybe using some fragments of the dialogue during flashbacks? There’s a one nice line that would work well with the final showdown (Anakin asks Obi-wan what would he do if Anakin failed him as well, and Obi-Wan replies that Anakin would never fail him). I think it’d work super well with the “I’m not your failure Obi-Wan” moment).
So, because of my weak Internet connection at the hotel I was just able to watch like 4min so far, but I have to ask, why those old 70s logos etc? 😉
This is something I put together in the other Kenobi redux thread, just in case it could be relevant to this project in some way:
I was one of those suckers who was actually really excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022) because Deborah Chow and Kelley DIxon’s work on Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad fuckin’ rule. Needless to say, that was a bit misguided.
I don’t think I’m going to do the whole show, but it was just a fun little experiment. The edit isn’t supposed to be like BB/BCS fwiw, just approaching the material with some of the storytelling philosophy I learned from them.
At the very least, Deborah Chow’s sensibilities as a director were still conducive to being arranged in this way so at least some of my excitement wasn’t unfounded
This is really great!
Anjohan: I hope that you use this in your edit! 😉I second this, its really good.
+1,tbh,I cannot imagine a better and more climatic opening for this movie.
Bte, Since you changed the title to “Kenobi:A Star Wars Story” are you gonna make a custom title card as well?
Just out of curiosity, are you going to leave that cool cameo of Temuera Morrison in your movie edit? 😉
I dunno what the Ep 6 will be about, but I think that if it’s bad the story can actually end on the 5th episode. Reva dies, Obi escapes, the story could kinda end here. If all 5 episodes are wisely trimmed it can still work as a nice coherent story.
So, so far seeing how the series is progressing you think this project will end up as a movie, shorter series or two movies (like Dune movie for ex or some older EU books - Part I and Part II) ? 😉
“The Imperial March (perhaps a very dark, slowed-down version) HAS to play when we see him. What is up with this score??? It’s pathetic!”
Couldn’t agree more, this series requiers some rescoring, the music is terrible there.
But I think Daniel Logan reprised the role there
Actually some archival audios from TCW of Bane/young Boba put here and there during flashback sequences could make sense (like some short lines), but I guess it’d be more like a nice easter egg 😄
Wooooooow! Looks amazing 😉
So, I’ve finally watched your work print of this edit (thank you for sharing btw).
As always, you did a great job with restructuring the show into a movie format.
In this case, you made the show that sucked an enjoyable movie experience. What I liked most was trimming the flashbacks, trimming the motorbike gang, the finale and the scene with Cad Bane, Boba and Fennec. You cut a lot of bad content which is great 😉 and I’m so happy you cut the Sarlacc flashback (when they were looking for the armor).
When it comes to what I’d personally change/improve:
-I still think there are things that could be cut. For ex: the scene where Boba and Fennec steal the ship, I think it could be just ommited. The same for Krrasantan attacking Boba. It could be cut and left ambiguous (like something that happened off screen, this way we avoid the ridiculous scenario where a big wookie just enters the palace and gets straight to the Boba’s chamber). I’d also cut the scene where Boba meets the gang - thet defy him too much in my opinion. If its cut, next time they appear the audience will just assume they ve been working for him as his street soldiers.
-I think it could work well if you moved the first scene with Cobb to the very first scene of the film. I think it could work super well as an opening of the film (though I know it’d require changing the whole crawl which probably is too time and consuming).
-I personally missed some cut scenes from 1x06,I’d just leave it all.
-I agree with ppl that it’d be better to end the movie with cliffhanger (Grogu’s choice would be revealed then in the next movie).Anyway, overall its a great edit and definitely 10 times better than the original source material.
I LOVED what you did with the final battle. In future, I ll definitely watch this instead of the show (this or just 1x05 and 1x06 together) 😉 you really made it an enjoyable film.Thanks for the feedback, some really good points here.
Meeting the mods. I really wanted to get rid of this scene, but I felt their introduction was needed otherwise we just randomly meet them later in the movie. I’m not sure it works without that meeting.
Losing the Krrsantan Palace infiltration is also a great idea, but it then removes the motive for the Hutts to give Fett the Rancor.
I like the idea of moving the Vanth scene forwards. It would fit well, not as the opening scene but as the first Tatooine scene… I’ll give that a try.
I’ve been toying with removing the final flashback scene, which includes the Slave I rescue. I’d still like to keep the scene of him gunning down the Speed Bike gang because its a crucial plot point, so I’ll have to add that bit elsewhere.
After rethinking the slave I part, I think it doesn’t bother me this much anymore. I don’t remember the original well anymore, but I’d swear you did some trimming there cause I dislike it anymore 😄 right now it looks good as it is.
The Krrasantan thing - if you remove totally both scenes with the twins and reinstate the bar scene instead, you have a nice introduction for him.
And the Rancor thing - if you remove the twins completely (their storyline is a dead end anyway and doesn’t add anything really to the story), you can still leave Danny Trejo/Boba scene. The audience will naturally assume Boba wanted to buy/obtain Rancor from the Machete and that’s it, no further explanation needed. He wanted to have a rancor so he has one 😄
About the Power Rangers gang, you’re probably right, structure-wise it’s better to keep the scene even though It’s terrible.
Plus, I still miss those Grogu/Luke scenes 😄 btw, did you try maybe move some Luke/Grogu scenes before Mando goes there? Like, an earlier introduction so they wouldn’t suddenly appear in the last 20min of the movie. Maybe then those scenes could be reinstated as well for the pacing purposes.
Anyway, great edit, makes the sh*tty show an enjoyable SW cinematic experience 😉
So, I’ve finally watched your work print of this edit (thank you for sharing btw).
As always, you did a great job with restructuring the show into a movie format.
In this case, you made the show that sucked an enjoyable movie experience. What I liked most was trimming the flashbacks, trimming the motorbike gang, the finale and the scene with Cad Bane, Boba and Fennec. You cut a lot of bad content which is great 😉 and I’m so happy you cut the Sarlacc flashback (when they were looking for the armor).
When it comes to what I’d personally change/improve:
-I still think there are things that could be cut. For ex: the scene where Boba and Fennec steal the ship, I think it could be just ommited. The same for Krrasantan attacking Boba. It could be cut and left ambiguous (like something that happened off screen, this way we avoid the ridiculous scenario where a big wookie just enters the palace and gets straight to the Boba’s chamber). I’d also cut the scene where Boba meets the gang - thet defy him too much in my opinion. If its cut, next time they appear the audience will just assume they ve been working for him as his street soldiers.
-I think it could work well if you moved the first scene with Cobb to the very first scene of the film. I think it could work super well as an opening of the film (though I know it’d require changing the whole crawl which probably is too time and consuming).
-I personally missed some cut scenes from 1x06,I’d just leave it all.
-I agree with ppl that it’d be better to end the movie with cliffhanger (Grogu’s choice would be revealed then in the next movie).
Anyway, overall its a great edit and definitely 10 times better than the original source material.
I LOVED what you did with the final battle. In future, I ll definitely watch this instead of the show (this or just 1x05 and 1x06 together) 😉 you really made it an enjoyable film.
It’d be an honor to see the workprint! 😉
Not sure if it’s a right place to post it but I ve just started a Podcast (and reviews) with my gf on YT. So well, technically it’s a review of mine for a movie 😄
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PFeQVXUf_EM
Btw this “The Diplomatic Pouch” sounds like a very interesting movie, added to my watchlist. Im happy I found this topic, I see a lot of good and less mainstream movies are reviewed here.