szopman

Lately I ve been rereading The Hand of Thrawn books, and I think it could be simply and smoothly edited into new films timeline. After first few chapters those are my observations:
-changing 19ABY into, lets say, 14ABY.five years is long enough, and then the events of the TT seems more recent.
-changing Solo children into one Ben Solo (minor character anyway)
-removing references to reborned Palpatine.
-fixing some minor continuity issues
-maybe add some minor easter eggs (ST/ new canon names for eg) here and there.

JEDIT
Quick question. I wanted ask about the fanedit antipirate policy that is applied in this case.
If I owe an original book im English, it os okay to obtain a fanedit of this book in the same language in ebook format? Or look for the ebook veraion of it here?

Two Quick question.

Does the chess scene was moved to the end (like Hal and some other faneditors did) in this edit?

Does this edit contain other Hal’s change- Palpatine explaining to Kylo that if he kills him he ll overtake his body instead of stupid explaining it to Rey?

Could I get a PM as well? 😉

PM please 😀

Could someone describe the edit on few sentences? Whats cut, whats trimmed etc? 😉

I saw this edit some time ago amd I think it s really a good edit with a lot of clever ideas 😉

JakeRyan17 said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/A-Palpatine-less-Edit-of-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Released/id/74454/page/1

I read through the overview, it seems unclear what drives the plot. Why are they going from place to place to place to place if not to get to Palpatine?

You could always establish something about some old Sith fleet on Exegol or Katan fleet from EU. You could make the protagonists lookin for it just to find out it was already discovered by the FO 😄

Im wondering how s that almost no one here considered cutting the Emperor completely from the film and making Kylo the main villain instead? 😄

axlanian said:

Movies Remastered said:

Have Ben live, Leia’s vision of his death changes, they get married, Reylos unite! Everyone wins.

Have Ben live, but slip away into exile to go be a wandering Robin Hood-type who tries to redeem himself by helping the downtrodden across the galaxy because there’s no way he would be accepted with Rey’s Resistance buddies after what he’s done

I believe that the only way to pull it would be to cut him completely from thr Exegol 3rd act, and restructure the scenes order, so the scene of him and Han Solo wpuld appear just before the final Tatooine scene. He just throws the lightsaber and stands there. It d be a nice ending for him, like, bitter sweet. He s brought back to the light, but what next? What can he do now? It would be a nice end for thos character.

Wow, smudger, looks great 😉

Just do one epic combo 3h movie 😉

joshuabri said:

I also like the idea that Rey killed her parents. I never found a way to implement it into the movie that didn’t feel forced. As an inexperienced editor, this being my first real project, I was also generally keeping things as simple as needed to get my goal accomplished.

Check out krausfadr’s fanedit (Resurgance), it could be very useful for you 😉

Dark Empire I And IIs cut could be a nice idea as well. I know it d bea bit of canon soap opera with the Emperor returning as a clone again and again, BUT, it d add a lot to the story as well.

1. it kinda would introduce the concept much earlier in the time line, and it d explain why they are not really surprised so much in IX that he came back 😄
2. it d explore some darker traits of Lukes personality (explore more later in the VIII)
3. it would explain some force powers the Emperor and Luke have in the sequel trilogy
4. we d see more Jedi Leia, which would be coherent with IX
5. some super weapon that we d see more developed in the sequel trilogy
6. Luke as a jedi master 😉

And about making a Canon LOE version, I haven’t read “Ahsoka” but I think I ve heard there were some flashbacks to her encounter with Maul. Maybe you could just include that?
Or maybe just do a one big novel like Game of Thrones and use some parts of other Canon novels for eg. Some trimmed version of “Dark Disciple” as a Volume I, or some chapters of the Shadow Conspiracy novelization. I know it wouldn’t be one coherent story, but, you d end up with a huge Clone Wars canon chronicle.

For me, what would be super interesting, would be an edit of Thrawn Trilogy that would fit the movie Canon (the CW dates, Ben Solo I stead of the twins etc).

Hm. I think you should start with ep1, when the guys sit on the table, and Cobb stats to say something he probably won’t stand a chance against mando, cut directly to Mando going away with the armor from the end of this episode (Bo as cameo). Then, use the start of the second episode, cut into 3rd.use the whole 3rd episode, cut the 4th,only have the scene with Dark troopers, we ll suppose they repaired the ship on Mon Cala.then,use some trimmed s02e05. Then the whole ep6. As much as 7th was nice, it’s a filler so you d have to cut it :c Then, the final act is the 8th episode. It leaves you with 3 whole episode, short bits of 2 eps and one trimmed. You ll end with a coherent 2h30 movie I think

Is there maybe a version of AotC extended without the animated Dooku shots \ scene? 😊
BTW, I saw a lot of your previews on YT today and your work is awesome man 💪🏽

So, no point of starting a thread for something that’s basically a trimmed version of the 1st episode of smudger9’s series.

I made for myself a shorter version of the I, I cut the first 39min (I just consider those stories uber boring).
Unfortunately, my skills didn’t let me edit it the way the opening could stay.

So, I also cut 20th Century Fox logo (since I cut the classic opening, there’s was no point of leaving this nostalgia call, especially that the studio didn’t have anything 2 do with TCW), the fanedit org logo (cause I wont post this edit of someone else’s fanedit there, though I left the fanedit claimer in the beginning)
and I left lucasfilm logo silent along with “Long time ago…”.

My custom movie starts with Obiwan and the rest is unaltered Smudgers9s brillant work 😉

Here are the first minutes (since the rest is exact the same as smudger9 made it):

https://vimeo.com/487839857
Pass : TCW

Hmm, Maybe I should try to do my own custom personal cut.

I’m a noob here, you guys think it’s possible to cut it well with iMovie, so it look nice?

I only need a nice 1080 mp4 file 😊

EddieDean said:

Smudger, lovely to have you with us, your input is very welcome here! I think your first movie intercuts really nicely, which manages to permit the slightly compressed timeline. It definitely works.

I can’t imagine a version of the Huttlet crisis storyline that isn’t painful to watch, but maybe that’s a failure of imagination. I’m glad you mention rescoring though, because like Downfall/Duel of the Droids it does have that really awkward rock music that they experimented with early.

Szopman, I actually quite like both Cat and Mouse and Hidden Enemy, enough that I’ve thought about seeing if I can include them as a later “return to Christophsis” arc.

But I feel like you’re right that this project would prefer to trim them from our first episode (assuming I use some variant of Smudger’s), for pacing and to best help focus the audience on what will be our central character.

Why not cut it into 2 entries then? 😀 Then you have one 40min episode introducing the better, more cinematic one 😀😁

I like the previous idea of putting Carl Weather’s message earlier, not right after the Sorgen.

About ep I, i think it can stay as it is in general 💪🏽. (Of course I ll wait for the version without the crawl 😇, though I’m sorry cause I know how time consuming and difficult it must be to pull it off 😉)

Well, if you cut the rookies and admiral Trench boring episode, you can use some Ahsoka centered episode then, to intercut with the rest of the film after they go to save master Koth.

Though, I believe you can leave her behind in the first one and follow the smudger9s version. Now if you cut the unnecessary stuff, you have a 1h40min movie. It’s a good running time. Not too much, not too little, the pacing is good. And the job is done. Chronologically and story wise speaking, it does the job well then. We are introduced to Ahsoka as a new supporting protagonist, a cool addition to the protagonists of the previous movies. And now, she can start to be more and more prominent just to rise as a series star 😉 In my opinion, it makes sense to introduce her in this way to a viewer.

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

After rewatching the first smudger9s TCW movie, I definitely think you should cut the first 38minutes (I think it kills the pacing and its not that relevant to the story itself).

The rest should stay because of the way smudger9 edited this story, connecting Christophis, saving master Koth and battle of Kamino, its just genius.

Thanks Szopman. The Cat and Mouse portion can certainly be cut.

As for keeping the rest of it, it depends on the goal of the project. The first movie is the one where I took the most liberties with the timeline and as a result it doesn’t fit well with a continuity project.

One thing I had completed (but not released) before I lost my work was an edit of the Clone Wars movie. It is definitely possible to create a “de-snipped” 😉 version (I even rescored the “heavy rock” segments). There are some great moments in it like the whole Teth sequence and Dooku v Anakin.
The Kamino episodes can then be cut together for a single feature and placed in the timeline closer to where ARC troopers should be.

Nah, in general, your EI is 100 times better than the original movie. I rewatched it 3 times since 2015,and my only problem is actually this first 38min act. When you watch it for the first time, it’s boring but watchable (mostly because of your editing skills, not the eps itselves). But now, I wish there were a version with this thing skipped because it’s like having to watch Holiday Special before TESB 😀😀 even when I wanted to watch your edit with my gf (she never saw TCW or any SW animated stuff) she didn’t want to watch it after 50min,because she was so bored after the first act 🙈 which is a shame, because the rest is nice, interesting and perfectly edited, after minute 38, I actually enjoy the movie, wich I cannot tell about the original 2008 release.

Anyway, I think you improved in this particular aspect a lot as an editor, cause in the Mandalorian project you are not afraid to cut stuff if its better for the pacing and story itself. Sorry, just a bit of (constructive I believe) criticism from a fan of your edits 🖖🏼

After rewatching the first smudger9s TCW movie, I definitely think you should cut the first 38minutes (I think it kills the pacing and its not that relevant to the story itself).

The rest should stay because of the way smudger9 edited this story, connecting Christophis, saving master Koth and battle of Kamino, its just genius.

smudger9 said:

Maybe the last 2 episodes will both be an hour long! I can dream 😃. There is the option of putting chapter 12 at the start of episode 3 since they are now on Nevarro, but I’ll have to see how the next 2 episodes pan out!

Well, it’s something that probably could be pulled if you find a way to cut it properly. Would definitely make sense

But yes, 2x 50min episodes would be perfect 😀

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

JakeRyan17 said:

I would bring back season 1’s Tatooine episode (The Gunslinger) and merge it with Chapter 9. Introduces Boba and Fennec together. You could then take the beginning of Chapter 10, and do a comedic cut from it being dangerous to the broken down ship in The Heiress, using that episode as your third act. After, you can use the tag from The Seige as if one of the repair guys in that episode informed Gideon.

Film 2 could be The Jedi, The Tragedy, and the final two episodes.

And I still think the Gideon tag from the end of season one should be put at the end of the season 1 film.

I don’t think we need to see Bill Burr’s introduction, just like Lando’s origin wasn’t needed on screen.

Thats probably the best approach for now.

At the moment I don’t need to put in The Gunslinger. I’ve edited out any reference to Mando knowing Fennic and it works. She’s just Boba’s sidekick or hire. Have to see if that still holds true by the end of the season. I’d like to avoid using the Gunslinger if I can because it really drags out the Tatooine stuff and I really don’t like Toro.

Annoyingly, from a film perspective, the best “end” to episode 2 would be the kidnap of the child. It would give it an ESB vibe. However, I’m then not left with enough material for Episode 3.

If you can avoid using the Gunslinger episode, then it’s perfect 👌🏽

Well, I think you should end the 2nd episode with the end of “The Jedi”, less dramatic, but pacing would be better I guess. You can always put the scene from 2x4 at the end 😉

I have no idea what you are gonna do about 2x5,but i think you should include it, in some trimmed version. Apart from being a cool action packed ep, it also revealed a lot of important stuff to the whole story.

JakeRyan17 said:

I would bring back season 1’s Tatooine episode (The Gunslinger) and merge it with Chapter 9. Introduces Boba and Fennec together. You could then take the beginning of Chapter 10, and do a comedic cut from it being dangerous to the broken down ship in The Heiress, using that episode as your third act. After, you can use the tag from The Seige as if one of the repair guys in that episode informed Gideon.

Film 2 could be The Jedi, The Tragedy, and the final two episodes.

And I still think the Gideon tag from the end of season one should be put at the end of the season 1 film.

I don’t think we need to see Bill Burr’s introduction, just like Lando’s origin wasn’t needed on screen.

Thats probably the best approach for now.

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

Well, in my opinion, if you dont wanna cut all the great stuff, you should divide it into two movies (suposing it Will go like that) :

1st one: Mando’s Journey to find the Jedi. Trimmed 1st ep, some bits of the 2nd ep, Episodes 3,4,5 with some Trimmed moments of course. At the end, it turns out that the protagonist has to follow another path. Maybe as a cliffhanger, or a postcredid scene, you could move the last scene of the 2x4 😉

2nd one: suposing we d get the 2part finale at least, the shorter 1h30movie.

Thats the only Way i can think of when it comes to a movie format of s02. This season is So much better than the 1st one. The first one, i think I ll always prefer to watch your fanedit as a pilot movie, but the second one, damn, i May even rewatch it all again 😯 anyway, waiting to See how you gonna deal with it 💪🏽

Annoyingly I get the feeling there will be about a film and a half worth of material in season 2.

Well, you can always try with 3 shorter movies, doesn’t have to be 2h30 each I guess 😉

I ve been watching your edits since 2015 and I must say you evolved as an editor a lot in terms of cutting the stuff thats not crucial in story-wise terms 😉 I think, just an observation of a viewer of your edids 😅

I really don’t want to mess with Episode 1. It works so well as a 3-act movie, probably the best of all my film edits.

No, I meant 3 shorter movies made out of the 2nd season. Not touching your ep I at all 😉

I think I t’ll be a choice between two 1.5 hour movies and one 2.5+ hour movie.

Go fortwo movies 😀