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#977346
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All Things Star Trek
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pittrek said:

A quick question - please, no spoilers, I live in a country where the movie for some reason gets released on 19.8. - is there a chance, that I as a person who hated every Star Trek movie after Insurrection, and I absolutely love Trek stories which have some deeper meanings, or at least are about something more than just Spock hitting somebody and explosions, is there a chance that that kind of person will at least LIKE this movie? I tried to watch different spoiler free reviews and most people seem to like this movie, but those were people who loved the previous 2 movies

For what it’s worth, my dad grew up on TOS back in the 60’s and he told me that he thought Beyond was so good that it almost made him cry.

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#977017
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DominicCobb said:

Smithers said:

Ok “complete remake” is an overstatement but c’mon, they ripped off all of the best parts of Wrath of Kahn and focused more on fan service than making an original script.

There are more “best parts” to TWOK than just Spock’s death. Can’t think of what else they might have ripped. 95% of the script is original by the way. There’s just that one scene that could be considered fan service but I don’t think that’d really count as fan service because it’s only the fans who don’t like it. Making Khan the villain could qualify as fan service but his role in this script is completely different than before.

Leonard Neemoy’s final cameo was also very forced and poorly done which is a huge shame.

True but this is 30 seconds worth of a 2 hour film.

suspiciouscoffee said:

The only thing it remade entirely from ST II was the climactic death being done exactly line-for-line. Other than that, it’s more like a paranoid conspiracy theorist’s remake of the episode Space Seed.

The scene is mostly the same but “line-for-line” is just inaccurate.

“I think you’d better get down here”
“You’ll flood the whole compartment”
“Ship out of danger”

There were a quite a few lines taken from WOK

And there’s not much similarity to Space Seed beyond the mere presence of Khan.

I should’ve clarified. It’s more like Space Seed than it is WOK. They meet Khan and his crew is frozen. Khan stays on the Enterprise for a bit.

Listen guys, STID isn’t perfect. Dislike it all you want, dislike the Khan stuff all you want. But to say that the whole film is a rip-off is just flat out not true. And I really don’t get how you could hate a whole movie for one scene and the name of the main villain. (I’m not saying this to anyone in particular.)

I don’t hate the film at all, but most of my complaints stem from the bleakness of it. It’s a downright paranoid film about how the utopian Federation is actually super corrupt and menacing because it’s secretly run by the Illuminati (Section 31). It’s a decent space-action movie.

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#976986
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All Things Star Trek
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SilverWook said:

Cumberbatch would have been more believable as Joachim. 😉

Great, now I want a fanedit where JohnKhan has a kitten on his shoulder the entire time. No one would mention it, of course, and it could make the film more enjoyable. That and Star Wars EU fans upset that he never played Thrawn in Ep VII could pretend it’s a ysalimiri.

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#976945
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The only thing it remade entirely from ST II was the climactic death being done exactly line-for-line. Other than that, it’s more like a paranoid conspiracy theorist’s remake of the episode Space Seed.

I’m about half and half on Into Darkness. Some good bits, some bad bits, but mostly falls flat for me. Better than most of the TNG films, but that’s not saying much.

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#976813
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All Things Star Trek
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LuckyGungan2001 said:

I want to see the new film, but I can barely remember a thing from the previous two, so I’ll have to re-watch both. I remember liking both, and probably still will, but who knows? Perhaps I’ll find that they both suck.

While it would help to watch the first one, Into Darkness is never referenced or mentioned at all. It’s totally ignored. Neither of them really suck IMO, but Into Darkness was a clear step down from the first.

Maybe Nero flipped the “odd number curse” to be the even number curse.

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#976640
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All Things Star Trek
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Tobar said:

I was quite pleasantly surprised by Beyond. It actually felt like Star Trek. Sadly, they’ve already announced that the next film won’t be penned by Pegg. Which I think is a huge mistake given everything he and Doug Jung did to course correct from the previous two films. Likewise, they haven’t announced the director but it feels like they won’t bring back Lin either. They finally got it right and it already feels like they’re going to steer it off course again.

While I do really want the franchise to continue in the direction Beyond did, I can’t say I’ll be too surprised if they go back into darkness (pun definitely intended). At least we’ll always have this one gem, even if the rest of the movies turn out to be crap.

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#975783
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Ben Affleck cast as new Batman
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Jetrell Fo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

RayRogers said:

Seconding. Martian Manhunter should be part of the Justice League. He’s been a charter member in over a dozen iterations.

Somehow I got the impression that this is being looked at. I understand why they went for more well known heroes first but yeah, he deserves inclusion up front.

In what universe is Cyborg more well known than Martian Manhunter outside of comic fandom?

I’m guessing Cyborg’s inclusion is aimed at a broader audience … Teen Titan and SHIELD fans alike.

The Justice League TV shows were just as, if not more, successful than Teen Titans. Also, SHIELD?

Yes, Cyborg showed up in SHIELD.

Unless you’re talking about this guy, SHIELD is Marvel, not DC. If you are referring to Marvel’s SHIELD show, that was Deathlok.

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#975776
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Ben Affleck cast as new Batman
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Jetrell Fo said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Jetrell Fo said:

RayRogers said:

Seconding. Martian Manhunter should be part of the Justice League. He’s been a charter member in over a dozen iterations.

Somehow I got the impression that this is being looked at. I understand why they went for more well known heroes first but yeah, he deserves inclusion up front.

In what universe is Cyborg more well known than Martian Manhunter outside of comic fandom?

I’m guessing Cyborg’s inclusion is aimed at a broader audience … Teen Titan and SHIELD fans alike.

The Justice League TV shows were just as, if not more, successful than Teen Titans. Also, SHIELD?

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#975768
Topic
Ben Affleck cast as new Batman
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Jetrell Fo said:

RayRogers said:

Seconding. Martian Manhunter should be part of the Justice League. He’s been a charter member in over a dozen iterations.

Somehow I got the impression that this is being looked at. I understand why they went for more well known heroes first but yeah, he deserves inclusion up front.

In what universe is Cyborg more well known than Martian Manhunter outside of comic fandom?