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- Info: The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
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I’m so glad this is finally out there.
I’m so glad this is finally out there.
So still no full release of this yet huh?
Just curious, this isn’t specifically addressing Harmy’s despecialization as much as it’s a technical question regarding the image.
At Chapter 13 of ROTJ Blu-ray (more specifically starting at 38:00) the image shifts, shakes, wobbles, rubberbands significantly in my opinion…I don’t know what the actual technical term is but that’s what I’m looking for. And is this pretty much a common occurrence? I’m not sure why I’m just now starting to notice it and never did before.
If I were doing an edit on TFA, my first change would be the first few bars of the main title. The performance and mix were so glaringly different than all of the previous 6 films that it jumped out at me when I saw the film in the theater the first time. How could they mess that up? I’d reuse the SW theme and just find a good cut to jump back to the newly recorded theme before it heads to Jakku.
Please delete.
I just viewed traces of the film today for the first time. My initial thought was it looks dull and grainy. I have a 21" HD monitor and grain looked super magnified especially in sunlight scenes.
As soon as I took the HD cable from the back of the monitor and plugged it into my 40" HDTV, OMG it looked incredible. I really need to try watching this on my projection screen downstairs! So much better looking on a bigger TV.
The new scan looks great!!! Out of curiosity are there any comparison vids anywhere that show the KCCI against this new 1st gen copy?
My take on the title music during the crawl was that it was too thin. The mid and low frequencies seemed absent or leveled down and almost missing. It didn’t have the umph it has had all these previous films. In fact, that might be why the music was so absent from everyone’s memories once the film is over. There were no moments that I recall where the music overpowered the visuals or even stood out. It was mixed differently or perhaps even recorded different, my guess is the prior.
And most all of the sound effects were new. Very little from what I could tell was migrated over from the previous films.
I was quite disappointed with the sound for sure. The effects were just too different and not grounded enough with the OT and the music just wasn’t noticeable enough. It’s sad that even before anything ever happened visually, I was already being disappointed by the title music’s lack of punch.
Let me preface this by saying,
I was there in 1977. So that speaks to my age.
I'm a prequel sympathizer. I enjoy them all, but at my current age I also have some minor qualms with all 6 of the movies.
So now to the new trailer..
IT SUCKED! Too much rehash from the teasers and not enough of what made the previous 6 trailers great. I get that this isn't the film, but the trailer should give us some idea what the movie is about. I got none of that from this trailer. It's an extended teaser as far as I'm concerned. There needs to be more dialogue for one, or at least a voice over narrative to take us through the general points of the film.
The film may or may not suck, but the trailer did not serve it's purpose as far as I'm concerned.
This is the first time as a Star Wars fan I've been underwhelmed by a Star Wars trailer. And hopefully, the last.
team_negative1 said:
sunday256 said:
poita said:
Need to get yourself some dark walls :)
Would be nice but I don't plan on living in this house but so long. Would be a paint over again when trying to sell it. Besides they are actually more grayish than they appear. :)
anyway, sorry -1, was just going with the flow. I'm looking forward to more video clips. Especially anything you might have at 1280p.
No problem. I'm not "-1". This is the team replying.
Don't you mean 1080p.
More comments about the clips are welcome, before we post more.
Thanks.
Team Negative1
Oh I know. Just used -1 as a quick way to reply...so quick I failed to noticed I had 1280x1024 on the brain instead of 1080p. LOL. ugh.
I was on that separate forum before it went down, but anyway I suppose I should say a little something.
The main thing I noticed were the white dust particles. Although not terribly heavy..somewhat noticeable. Although, without going back through all the posts I'm sure it's been addressed. I also noticed very little clarity in the 720p and 1080p clips so far which has me concerned somewhat, but I remember seeing a post from -1 ages ago it would seem that says the film is released at 1080p it will blow us away with the crispness. That's kind of what I'm looking for.
I'm not noticing any coloring issues to speak of..that all looks fine. And it seems the image stabilzation is pretty good also.
poita said:
Need to get yourself some dark walls :)
Would be nice but I don't plan on living in this house but so long. Would be a paint over again when trying to sell it. Besides they are actually more grayish than they appear. :)
anyway, sorry -1, was just going with the flow. I'm looking forward to more video clips. Especially anything you might have at 1280p.
Got you guys beat...I'm ready to preview it and give my own feedback on 136" of glory.
It should be the guy running starwarsarchives.com since he was the one to string it together and make it available in the first place.
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trug said:
Indeed, impossible to distribute it otherwise I would have already done it for the community, because it deserves it !
There may not be a US copyright on this. I can't locate this particular one in the US copyright database. I see the SPX one but not this one. I wonder how well a foreign copyright would hold up.
Hopefully your generalizing and not speaking for yourself. Anyone who hates that many things would be better off in a cabin somewhere living like Grizzly Adams - in seclusion.
Harmy, love the changes with 2.1. In my opinion much better than 2.0. Here's what it looks like on my 136" screen. The screenshot does not nearly do it justice. It was taken on an iPad.
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2943/img0267wn.jpg
Wouldn't the original owner be Michael Parbot since it was his documentary? And he's passed away, so in that respect wouldn't the new owner be the Parbot's estate?
Who cares who you got the tape from, the real issue is who owns the copyright and it sounds like Parbot's estate.
But from Neo's original posting in 2007, it came from Gary Kurtz or someone Gary knew if I'm not mistaken.
Thanks for the info.
Are there any Alan Ladd, Jr. video, audio or text interviews regarding his view of rolling the dice and financing Star Wars?
Update from starwarsarchives.com...
- A better quality version
- All previous clips from 2007 have been put in the correct order
- Total length = 26 minutes.
http://www.starwarsarchives.com/#/archive_19801989/1980/lost_doc_videos
I saw JJ's Star Trek only once. I don't really consider myself a Star Trek fan, but I was curious. For me it was unmemorable. But that said, I really don't know what to expect from him in regards to a Star Wars film.
If they are characters I actually care about, unlike Star Trek, then I will just have to see how they are written and how they are directed and what everything else looks like.
One thing is for sure, Kathleen Kennedy will keep him in line. I'm pretty sure of that. I don't think she'll let him take it too far from where the films were previously in terms of look, feel, etc.
But if it were me, if I were to be offered a dream job like this after being a fan for as long as I have been, I'd know what the fans want to see. I'd also know that if I wanted to do things right, really right, I'd want to hire as many of the original crew members as I could and do as much with the old school effects as possible. That means ILM and the archives would be at the top of my list of things to check out.
JJ has an opportunity to lear a whole lot more about filmmaking than he's ever experienced before if he digs right in at ILM. That's gotta be exciting!
This really shouldn't be forgotten until it eventually shows up somewhere in full. Darth Neo reposted the vids on his site today (in higher quality).
http://www.starwarsarchives.com/#/archive_19801989/1980/lost_doc_videos