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- Mando EP2: Search for the Jedi [V2 RELEASED]
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Beautiful artwork
Thankyou.
Beautiful artwork
Thankyou.
And here are the posters for comparison
Some slightly updated artwork to fit in with the Episode 2 artwork
Here are the posters
and the BluRay images
The BluRay is now rendering.
Here is the artwork.
Here is the Episode 1 artwork for reference:
smudger9 said:
The total write-off of the Razorcrest was an absolute pain. Including the repair trip to Nevarro completely derailed the story so it had to go. I then had to balance how damaged the Razorcrest got on arriving on Trask with the believability that a single Mon Cala could fully repair it. I thought a totally sea-logged ship was too much damage so I cut it. As for seeing the dripping crest in the background - I cut as much as I could and, again, if you hadn’t seen the full episode you probably wouldn’t realise that it was the Razorcrest in the background.I certainly believe you 😃 And you made a good point regarding a viewer who never watched it and we watching it with more attention to detail. So it´s a fair change/compromise you´ve made.
When I saw “the Passenger” my first thought was “oh no!”. I knew it was going to be an absolute pain for this movie edit. It added about 2 months to the editing process and the final result was still a compromise!
So i´ve watched it today and have to say it´s near perfect execution, storywise and technically. Every choice smudger9 made, from my perspective, was right to tell the story of Din and Grogu to find the (a) jedi. Even if that meant, Ahsokas fight on corvus to liberate the village had to be cut. It doesn´t add anything to the story of grogu.
I loved the IMAX conversion idea when they´re fighting the krayt dragon, very neat!😃Some suspension of disbelief is needed after Din landed the razor crest on Trask (water splashing of it and algaes.
What i couldn´t identify which luke skywalker deepfake you used, smudger9? It´s certainly not the original but looks a little bit different to the one from shamook?
Do you intend to release a bluray version of episode 2?
I agree, Smudger has created another quality edit here once again and clearly a lot of time and effort has gone in to it so really appreciate this from Smudger.
- WARNING SPOILERS *
Similarly, my only two criticisms is the Razorcrest landing in Trask is really out of place with the seaweed clearly seen on the Razorcrest in the background. I’m not entirely sure what Smudger had against the Razorcrest falling into the ocean like in the original.
Also, for me, cutting the fight scene between Ashoka and the Magistrate was a big disappointment with no mention of Thrawn either. The removal of the hand over of the beskar spear was on odd choice as well as Mando later picks it up after the Razorcrest is blown up. If you were watching this for first time you’d be thinking “where did that spear come from?” As it kinda just appears out of nowhere.
Other than those two things the edit was superb and really enjoyed it. Thanks again Smudger and look forward to more Stars Wars movies in the future.
You quite rightly pointed out the two things that I pondered most with this edit.
Firstly, the Ahsoka village battle. That was something I knew needed removing, but thought long and hard before doing it. It doesn’t add anything to the story and is an unnecessary side quest. In terms of the Beskar spear, I didn’t feel that needed explaining. There are many reasons a Mandalorian would have one and had you not seen the full episode, you probably wouldn’t question it.
The total write-off of the Razorcrest was an absolute pain. Including the repair trip to Nevarro completely derailed the story so it had to go. I then had to balance how damaged the Razorcrest got on arriving on Trask with the believability that a single Mon Cala could fully repair it. I thought a totally sea-logged ship was too much damage so I cut it. As for seeing the dripping crest in the background - I cut as much as I could and, again, if you hadn’t seen the full episode you probably wouldn’t realise that it was the Razorcrest in the background.
So i´ve watched it today and have to say it´s near perfect execution, storywise and technically. Every choice smudger9 made, from my perspective, was right to tell the story of Din and Grogu to find the (a) jedi. Even if that meant, Ahsokas fight on corvus to liberate the village had to be cut. It doesn´t add anything to the story of grogu.
I loved the IMAX conversion idea when they´re fighting the krayt dragon, very neat!😃Some suspension of disbelief is needed after Din landed the razor crest on Trask (water splashing of it and algaes.
What i couldn´t identify which luke skywalker deepfake you used, smudger9? It´s certainly not the original but looks a little bit different to the one from shamook?
Do you intend to release a bluray version of episode 2?
Thanks for the review. The Luke Skywalker footage is actually the original footage. I tried the deep fakes but couldnt get the quality to match up, making them inferior.
The Blu-ray version and cover art will follow this weekend.
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With Episode 2 now being completed, I have gone back to episode 1 to tidy up the storyline issues created by Episode 2.
This mainly involves replacing the Sanctuary scenes with the Gunslinger.
I have also made a few other minor alterations.
The completed version 2 should be released next month.
Soooooo. Its finally done.
PM for links… I have 720 streaming, 1080 DL and MKV DL.
PM Sent
I’m probably too late. But I stumbled across this.
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/2/folders/1s1kZA9sJxaFip9nUmQvGgBYU1qldz19x
Hope this helps!
Thanks
I’m about to start rendering this. Last call for anyone who can point me in the direction of a HD copy of the Luke Deepfake. Ideally 4K. The 720 version I have isn’t the required quality.
Is V1 of this edit going out of print, and being replaced with V2 like the SEs (officially) replaced the OT?
I’ll keep it available for requests.
Hi smudger,
Two questions:
In Mando Season 2 they have post credits scene of Boba going to Jabba’s Hut do you plan to have that scene in movie and not in post credits.
Also, were you planning using the Force theme when Luke arrives to save the day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AI-m0rhZG8
No. It doesn’t really form part of the season 2 story and if you add it in, it completely disrupts the flow of the ending.
No. It makes a cool clip but the music feels out of place when viewed as part of a movie. Also, it would be extremely difficult to do it properly. I would need to rebuild a lot of the audio to remove the original music…… in that clip you can clearly hear the original music bleeding through in several parts.
Currently updating this to replace the Sanctuary story with the Gunslinger, so that it fits better with Episode 2.
One thing that a lot of people wanted was for the Darksaber scene to be put back in, which I have now done. Its been moved forwards to keep the upbeat ending of Mando and Grogu leaving Nevarro on their journey. Had to to some rescoring to make it work.
Hi Smudger! 👋
When do you think the edit will be ready?
It is… finished!!!
I’m just adjusting episode 1 to replace the bulk of the Sanctuary scenes with the Gunslinger scenes so that I can release the update along with episode 2.
Hey,
How is the edit coming along? I hope it’s going well.
So very close. Just just need to correct a few issues that came up in the test viewings. I’ve been away for the last 2 weeks so haven’t had time yet to sort them.
Soooon, sooooon
If you’re still up for test viewings I would be keen to take a look. Otherwise, I’m looking forward to the public release!
Thanks for the offer. I’ve had a couple of members watch it and give feedback, so I should be good in terms of test viewings.
How are you going about having Mando meet Cara Dune if Sanctuary has been cut?
Two options.
Keep the first meeting with Cara and when Mando says “looks like this planet is taken” wipe to the Razor in space and then transition to Gunslinger.
Cut their first meeting and just use their meeting from chapter 7… there is sufficient implication from the dialogue that they are old acquaintances.
I am for the first option.
Because it means more character building imo.
I agree
How are you going about having Mando meet Cara Dune if Sanctuary has been cut?
Two options.
Keep the first meeting with Cara and when Mando says “looks like this planet is taken” wipe to the Razor in space and then transition to Gunslinger.
Cut their first meeting and just use their meeting from chapter 7… there is sufficient implication from the dialogue that they are old acquaintances.
Just curious… since Fennec and Peli weren’t included in Vergence in the Force, how do you introduce them in this? And since you’ve cut the whole prisoner thing with Mayfield, so do we just not get the whole Mando taking off his helmet thing?
Really looking forward to this!
Pelli and Fennec are introduced as per the series. I will be going back and making a second version of Episode 1 that replaces Sorgen with Tatooine. I initially made a version that cut references to past meetings, but with Fennec being in Book of Boba, it’s a no brainier to go back and put the Tatooine scenes into episode 1.
I’m glad you’re going back and making a “Tatooine version” of the first film! Your edit was great, but I’ve just never liked Sorgan or the Sanctuary episode. The only important thing that happens in that episode is the first meeting with Cara Dune, but you can keep that and cut the rest of the episode by simply having Mando leave after he says “well, looks like this planet’s taken”.
I liked The Gunslinger episode a lot better than Sanctuary, so I think it’s a great idea to make a version with it instead.
Anyway, I’m very excited for Search for the Jedi and version 2 of A Vergence in the Force!
It was a really close call between Sanctuary and Gunslinger. Sanctuary won because of the character development. However, after season 2 the balance has shifted in favour of gunslinger.
I’m kinda concerned if you ever do a season 3 edit, if the abcense of the Razro Crest would create some plot holes
I still have the Razorcrest being destroyed on Tython!
Just curious… since Fennec and Peli weren’t included in Vergence in the Force, how do you introduce them in this? And since you’ve cut the whole prisoner thing with Mayfield, so do we just not get the whole Mando taking off his helmet thing?
Really looking forward to this!
Pelli and Fennec are introduced as per the series. I will be going back and making a second version of Episode 1 that replaces Sorgen with Tatooine. I initially made a version that cut references to past meetings, but with Fennec being in Book of Boba, it’s a no brainier to go back and put the Tatooine scenes into episode 1.
Yes, Mando removing his helmet is cut, which is a shame, but it does make the final scene even more impactful.
Right… as with most editing tasks, the Tatooine to Trask segment turned out to be a rabbit hole!
Once I had decided that the simple wipe to cover the entire journey didnt flow, it opened up a lot of work and tinkering to get the segment to work. There were a number of things that made it tricky, such as Grogu’s variable presence in the cockpit. However, I have managed to put in the interaction with the X-wings, which has helped give the movie some galaxy-wide exposition.Anyway, here is the completed segment.
All that is left now is some dialogue tidying, touching up the opening pan shot, end credits and a final decision on whether to include the deepfake Luke.
If anyone wants to do a test viewing let me know, it would be good to get a couple of checks before going public!
Overall the clip works well, but there is a minor continuity issues at the end- they land ok, but the ship is dripping wet as they walk away from it. Perhaps just cut from the landing straight to the overhead shot of them walking toward the canteena? Or cut out from the planet approach straight to the same shot of the party walking to remove the issue of the razor crest being damaged. There also a frame around 7 mins 19 secs that appears to just be a black screen. I would be happy to preview/test if it helps.
That clip with the razor in the background is already trimmed, but I’ve left in as much as I could to create a better transition from landing to the interaction with the Mon Cala. I can’t go straight to the overhead shot because I’d then lose the Mon Cala interaction completely.
As it is I think it’s ambiguous enough as to what ship is in the background, and if you didn’t know what happened in the episode, you probably wouldn’t realise that it was the Razor.
I’ll recheck for the black screen frame. I had to zoom in on a couple of shots to remove Grogu from the cockpit and use black screens to maintain the letterbox, so it’s probably an overspill frame.
Thanks for the input.
What was your intention of trimming the landing scene so that the landing manouver, result falling into water? I personally didn’t minded it. Was it funny? Open for discussion.
Otherwise i think everything worked very well, too.
Regarding the crawl: something is bugging me regarding the title of episode II. It feels hollow, but i fail to come up with an alternative, perhaps „the pursuit for help“??
Otherwise the crawl text itself is well written, i like it very much.My goals with the landing sequence were.
- Razorcrest arrives at Trask undamaged.
- All damage occurs during and after re-entry.
- The damage sustained isn’t significant, so that it can believably be repaired off screen by the Mon Cala (the trip to Nevarro is being cut).
I didn’t mind it falling into the sea, but the ship ended up being such a mess that it would feel jarring to have it suddenly appear pristine.
As for the title… It’s the best I could come up with, and it does follow the force-related theme of my episode 1 title.
I can relate to your no.3 even if i’m on the opposite site.
Regarding the title, what about „The Awakening“? or something similiar that resembles grogus reaching into the force?
How about The Force Awakens 😆