If you’re still up for test viewings I would be keen to take a look. Otherwise, I’m looking forward to the public release!
Thanks for the offer. I’ve had a couple of members watch it and give feedback, so I should be good in terms of test viewings.
How are you going about having Mando meet Cara Dune if Sanctuary has been cut?
Two options.
Keep the first meeting with Cara and when Mando says “looks like this planet is taken” wipe to the Razor in space and then transition to Gunslinger.
Cut their first meeting and just use their meeting from chapter 7… there is sufficient implication from the dialogue that they are old acquaintances.
I am for the first option.
Because it means more character building imo.
I agree
How are you going about having Mando meet Cara Dune if Sanctuary has been cut?
Two options.
Keep the first meeting with Cara and when Mando says “looks like this planet is taken” wipe to the Razor in space and then transition to Gunslinger.
Cut their first meeting and just use their meeting from chapter 7… there is sufficient implication from the dialogue that they are old acquaintances.
Just curious… since Fennec and Peli weren’t included in Vergence in the Force, how do you introduce them in this? And since you’ve cut the whole prisoner thing with Mayfield, so do we just not get the whole Mando taking off his helmet thing?
Really looking forward to this!
Pelli and Fennec are introduced as per the series. I will be going back and making a second version of Episode 1 that replaces Sorgen with Tatooine. I initially made a version that cut references to past meetings, but with Fennec being in Book of Boba, it’s a no brainier to go back and put the Tatooine scenes into episode 1.
I’m glad you’re going back and making a “Tatooine version” of the first film! Your edit was great, but I’ve just never liked Sorgan or the Sanctuary episode. The only important thing that happens in that episode is the first meeting with Cara Dune, but you can keep that and cut the rest of the episode by simply having Mando leave after he says “well, looks like this planet’s taken”.
I liked The Gunslinger episode a lot better than Sanctuary, so I think it’s a great idea to make a version with it instead.
Anyway, I’m very excited for Search for the Jedi and version 2 of A Vergence in the Force!
It was a really close call between Sanctuary and Gunslinger. Sanctuary won because of the character development. However, after season 2 the balance has shifted in favour of gunslinger.
I’m kinda concerned if you ever do a season 3 edit, if the abcense of the Razro Crest would create some plot holes
I still have the Razorcrest being destroyed on Tython!
Just curious… since Fennec and Peli weren’t included in Vergence in the Force, how do you introduce them in this? And since you’ve cut the whole prisoner thing with Mayfield, so do we just not get the whole Mando taking off his helmet thing?
Really looking forward to this!
Pelli and Fennec are introduced as per the series. I will be going back and making a second version of Episode 1 that replaces Sorgen with Tatooine. I initially made a version that cut references to past meetings, but with Fennec being in Book of Boba, it’s a no brainier to go back and put the Tatooine scenes into episode 1.
Yes, Mando removing his helmet is cut, which is a shame, but it does make the final scene even more impactful.
Right… as with most editing tasks, the Tatooine to Trask segment turned out to be a rabbit hole!
Once I had decided that the simple wipe to cover the entire journey didnt flow, it opened up a lot of work and tinkering to get the segment to work. There were a number of things that made it tricky, such as Grogu’s variable presence in the cockpit. However, I have managed to put in the interaction with the X-wings, which has helped give the movie some galaxy-wide exposition.Anyway, here is the completed segment.
All that is left now is some dialogue tidying, touching up the opening pan shot, end credits and a final decision on whether to include the deepfake Luke.
If anyone wants to do a test viewing let me know, it would be good to get a couple of checks before going public!
Overall the clip works well, but there is a minor continuity issues at the end- they land ok, but the ship is dripping wet as they walk away from it. Perhaps just cut from the landing straight to the overhead shot of them walking toward the canteena? Or cut out from the planet approach straight to the same shot of the party walking to remove the issue of the razor crest being damaged. There also a frame around 7 mins 19 secs that appears to just be a black screen. I would be happy to preview/test if it helps.
That clip with the razor in the background is already trimmed, but I’ve left in as much as I could to create a better transition from landing to the interaction with the Mon Cala. I can’t go straight to the overhead shot because I’d then lose the Mon Cala interaction completely.
As it is I think it’s ambiguous enough as to what ship is in the background, and if you didn’t know what happened in the episode, you probably wouldn’t realise that it was the Razor.
I’ll recheck for the black screen frame. I had to zoom in on a couple of shots to remove Grogu from the cockpit and use black screens to maintain the letterbox, so it’s probably an overspill frame.
Thanks for the input.
What was your intention of trimming the landing scene so that the landing manouver, result falling into water? I personally didn’t minded it. Was it funny? Open for discussion.
Otherwise i think everything worked very well, too.
Regarding the crawl: something is bugging me regarding the title of episode II. It feels hollow, but i fail to come up with an alternative, perhaps „the pursuit for help“??
Otherwise the crawl text itself is well written, i like it very much.My goals with the landing sequence were.
- Razorcrest arrives at Trask undamaged.
- All damage occurs during and after re-entry.
- The damage sustained isn’t significant, so that it can believably be repaired off screen by the Mon Cala (the trip to Nevarro is being cut).
I didn’t mind it falling into the sea, but the ship ended up being such a mess that it would feel jarring to have it suddenly appear pristine.
As for the title… It’s the best I could come up with, and it does follow the force-related theme of my episode 1 title.
I can relate to your no.3 even if i’m on the opposite site.
Regarding the title, what about „The Awakening“? or something similiar that resembles grogus reaching into the force?
How about The Force Awakens 😆
Right… as with most editing tasks, the Tatooine to Trask segment turned out to be a rabbit hole!
Once I had decided that the simple wipe to cover the entire journey didnt flow, it opened up a lot of work and tinkering to get the segment to work. There were a number of things that made it tricky, such as Grogu’s variable presence in the cockpit. However, I have managed to put in the interaction with the X-wings, which has helped give the movie some galaxy-wide exposition.Anyway, here is the completed segment.
All that is left now is some dialogue tidying, touching up the opening pan shot, end credits and a final decision on whether to include the deepfake Luke.
If anyone wants to do a test viewing let me know, it would be good to get a couple of checks before going public!
Overall the clip works well, but there is a minor continuity issues at the end- they land ok, but the ship is dripping wet as they walk away from it. Perhaps just cut from the landing straight to the overhead shot of them walking toward the canteena? Or cut out from the planet approach straight to the same shot of the party walking to remove the issue of the razor crest being damaged. There also a frame around 7 mins 19 secs that appears to just be a black screen. I would be happy to preview/test if it helps.
That clip with the razor in the background is already trimmed, but I’ve left in as much as I could to create a better transition from landing to the interaction with the Mon Cala. I can’t go straight to the overhead shot because I’d then lose the Mon Cala interaction completely.
As it is I think it’s ambiguous enough as to what ship is in the background, and if you didn’t know what happened in the episode, you probably wouldn’t realise that it was the Razor.
I’ll recheck for the black screen frame. I had to zoom in on a couple of shots to remove Grogu from the cockpit and use black screens to maintain the letterbox, so it’s probably an overspill frame.
Thanks for the input.
What was your intention of trimming the landing scene so that the landing manouver, result falling into water? I personally didn’t minded it. Was it funny? Open for discussion.
Otherwise i think everything worked very well, too.
Regarding the crawl: something is bugging me regarding the title of episode II. It feels hollow, but i fail to come up with an alternative, perhaps „the pursuit for help“??
Otherwise the crawl text itself is well written, i like it very much.
My goals with the landing sequence were.
I didn’t mind it falling into the sea, but the ship ended up being such a mess that it would feel jarring to have it suddenly appear pristine.
As for the title… It’s the best I could come up with, and it does follow the force-related theme of my episode 1 title.
And here is the opening… crawl text is always tricky, so opinions and suggestions would be appreciated.
The Razorcrest rotoscoping still needs tidying.
Right… as with most editing tasks, the Tatooine to Trask segment turned out to be a rabbit hole!
Once I had decided that the simple wipe to cover the entire journey didnt flow, it opened up a lot of work and tinkering to get the segment to work. There were a number of things that made it tricky, such as Grogu’s variable presence in the cockpit. However, I have managed to put in the interaction with the X-wings, which has helped give the movie some galaxy-wide exposition.Anyway, here is the completed segment.
All that is left now is some dialogue tidying, touching up the opening pan shot, end credits and a final decision on whether to include the deepfake Luke.
If anyone wants to do a test viewing let me know, it would be good to get a couple of checks before going public!
Overall the clip works well, but there is a minor continuity issues at the end- they land ok, but the ship is dripping wet as they walk away from it. Perhaps just cut from the landing straight to the overhead shot of them walking toward the canteena? Or cut out from the planet approach straight to the same shot of the party walking to remove the issue of the razor crest being damaged. There also a frame around 7 mins 19 secs that appears to just be a black screen. I would be happy to preview/test if it helps.
That clip with the razor in the background is already trimmed, but I’ve left in as much as I could to create a better transition from landing to the interaction with the Mon Cala. I can’t go straight to the overhead shot because I’d then lose the Mon Cala interaction completely.
As it is I think it’s ambiguous enough as to what ship is in the background, and if you didn’t know what happened in the episode, you probably wouldn’t realise that it was the Razor.
I’ll recheck for the black screen frame. I had to zoom in on a couple of shots to remove Grogu from the cockpit and use black screens to maintain the letterbox, so it’s probably an overspill frame.
Thanks for the input.
In this edit, how is Dr. Pershing found? You fixed the issue of finding the ship without the extra episode. But is there an explanation as to how the crew is able to track down the doctor?
Unfortunately that is not fixable due to the total lack of footage. I’ve swapped scenes around so that Mando recruits Bo Katan before capturing Pershing, which makes it flow better.
Right… as with most editing tasks, the Tatooine to Trask segment turned out to be a rabbit hole!
Once I had decided that the simple wipe to cover the entire journey didnt flow, it opened up a lot of work and tinkering to get the segment to work. There were a number of things that made it tricky, such as Grogu’s variable presence in the cockpit. However, I have managed to put in the interaction with the X-wings, which has helped give the movie some galaxy-wide exposition.
Anyway, here is the completed segment.
All that is left now is some dialogue tidying, touching up the opening pan shot, end credits and a final decision on whether to include the deepfake Luke.
If anyone wants to do a test viewing let me know, it would be good to get a couple of checks before going public!
Does anyone have a HD quality capture of The Deepfake Mando Luke scene? I’m just finishing up my Mando season 2 movie edit and it would be great to put it in there.
Are we still looking at May 4th for release?
I’m still hopeful.
I did my watch-through of the final cut and I’m really happy with it, apart from the Tattoine to Trask sequence.
Other than the opening sequence rotoscoping everything is now complete, so I’ll have time to tinker with the sequence this weekend. I’ll post a rough cut of it tonight for some opinions before I complete the audio.
Overall, despite the season not allowing for a classical 3-act movie, it is a better watch than season 1 because the content is so amazing.
Thanks.
Season 2 has taken a lot more work. Season 1 was structured really nicely to cut it into a 3-act movie, season 2 definitely wasn’t!
Release date?
I’m really looking forward to this I’m a big fan of a vergence in the force
May 4th
And here is a list of the current changes to produce the movie:
Opening
Current Star Wars and Lucasfilm logos with 20th Century Fox Music
Classical Star Wars opening crawl
Classical Star Wars opening space pan using scene from Chapter 5 (The Gunslinger)
2 “in cockpit” shots added from Chapter 5 (The Gunslinger) to extend approach to Tatooine.
On planet approach trimmed and first shot of Pelli cut.
Opening scene scored using “Mando is back”
Chapter 9 (The Marshall)
Cut Pelli lines about buying the child.
Cut Pelli line “still don’t”.
Cut Pelli lines moaning about R5.
Shortened sequence where Mando travels to Moss Pelgo including cutting the Tusken Camp scene.
Shortened scene of Mando cruising through Moss Pelgo.
Cut Cobb Vanth Flashback sequence.
Cut Tusken Camp scene.
Reduced amount Tusken language used in battle plan scene.
Cut speeder return to Mos Pelgo scene and replaced with a transition wipe to a static shot of Moss Pelgo with camera zoom.
Cut Tusken arrival at Moss Pelgo
Cut Cobb Vanth drinking Tusken drink before the battle.
Cut Krayt Dragon retreating back into the Sarlaac pit.
Cut Mando “take care of the child”
Rescored Boba Fett’s intro scene with “Imperial Starfleet Deployed” from ESB.
Chapter 10 (The Passenger)
Cut Ambush Scene
Cut Pelli “I’m not a Rodian”
Cut reference to travelling sub light.
All scenes after Tatooine Hangar are cut.
Chapter 11 (The Heiress)
Transition from Tatooine Hangar to flipped hyperspace exit shot from Chapter 13 (The Jedi).
Heavily damaged Razorcrest approach cut.
Mando waking up cut.
Cut line about fuel and burning to a crisp.
“drop” into atmosphere cut and replaced with planetary approach shot from Chapter 10 (The Passenger) with X-wings removed.
Heavily damaged Razorcrest shots removed.
Razorcrest falling into ocean cut and replaced with bumpy landing shots from Chapter 10 (The Passenger) with zoom to hide fact that the child isn’t present. Added Mando line “looks like we made it”.
Trimmed opening Track scene to hide the heavily damaged Razorcrest.
Trimmed Frog reunion scenes.
Cut scene of the Mandalorians destroying the boat.
Cut Koska lines about hitting them hard and scanning for lifeforms.
Cut “which one”, “all of them” Imperial interaction.
Cut “close all the doors” shot.
Reduce pause after “in the cargo control area”
Manufactured scene where Mando discovers that Gideon may be alive:
Change Bo Katan line about the dark saber to add Moff Gideon’s name.
Add Mando “Moff Gideon is dead”.
Add Bo Katan “don’t believe everything you hear”.
Add Mando “If Gideon is alive” and run it into “I have to return to my ship, with the foundling”.
Add score from “the experiment” to add tension.
Cut shot of Imperial pilots when they realise they are about to die.
Cut scene where Mando gets his damaged ship back from the Mon Calamari.
Replace damaged ship exit from Trask with planetary exit and hyperspace jump from Chapter 3 (The Sin)
Chapter 12 (The Siege)
All scenes cut except
Chapter 13 (The Jedi)
Opening lightsaber battle scene cut.
Cut reference to the Beskar staff from the Mando-Elspeth scene.
Add Ahsoka theme from “The Sorcerer” to Ahsoka’s introduction in the forest.
Cut reference to Ahsoka returning to the village and extend the scene using music from “the story”, then transition wipe to Mando and Grogu on the Razorcrest.
Cut entire village battle plot.
Cut Mando ”you made me a promise” and replace with “I’ve been quested with returning this child to the Jedi” from chapter 11 (The Heiress).
Shorten final Ahsoka shot to avoid excessive music swell.
Chapter 14 (The Tragedy)
Transition wipe to Razorcrect shot from Chapter 7 (The Reckoning).
Dialogue of Mando saying child is special is cut due to its use earlier in the movie.
Shot of the Razorcrest approaching Tython moved to later in the scene to imply space travel and time passage.
Cut stormtrooper “you idiot” line.
Cut Mando-Fennic dialogue about owing her from last time.
Reduce blaster fire bouncing off Beskar.
Move Gideon Imperial cruiser scene forward to site between Mando leaving Corvus and arriving on Nevarro.
Added scene of Mando walking through Nevarro from Chapter 3 (The Sin) to extend Nevarro arrival scene.
Manufactured Mando-Cara Dune Scene
Opens with reversed shot of the Marshall badge flip - Cara now flips it to Mando first.
Dialogue used from Chapter 15 (The Believer) to change the scene into Cara searching for Moff Gideon’s cruiser.
Images from Chapter 15 (The Believer) rotoscoped onto scenes of Cara using her terminal so that it now shows images of Gideon’s cruiser and its location rather then the prison registry.
Scored using “Brown Eyes”
Chapter 15 (The Believer)
All scenes cut except the Scene of Mando’s message to Moff Gideon - this is used as a spacer scene between Mando leaving Nevarro and arriving to meet the Mandalorians.
Chapter 16 (The Rescue)
The Capture of Dr Persching is moved to after the recruitment of the Mandalorians. Mando now travels straight from Nevarro to recruit Bo Katan.
Hyperspace exit of Imperial shuttle and Razorcrest inserted here and followed by the Capture of Dr Pershing.
Dr Pershing capture now cuts straight to his interrogation, implying that it takes place in space rather than on the desert planet.
Recut Darktrooper scene so that they sent “release” until fully charged.
Iris out to custom end credits.
Finally an update on this… the last piece of the jigsaw is complete - the Tattoine to Trask sequence.
This has been through several iterations. Firstly the whole passenger episode had to go because of timing and pacing. I was initially trying to cut Frog lady completely, but annoyingly it just didn’t quite work.
Then I tried to cut it without the Razorcrest getting damaged at all, but that didn’t work either.
So, what I’ve done is cut together a version that is light on Frog lady and where the Razor gets some damage on entry to the planet Trask due to the lading array not working, and doesn’t fall into the sea.
Here is the sequence
I’m now rendering the full movie for a final watch and hopefully get it ready for release around May 4th!
Definitely worth taking a break. The amount of work you’ve done is phenomenal, but the best way to keep the enthusiasm is to take a time-out! I havent started watching the episodes yet, but I do love the intro.
Can someone PM me links to the latest ANH:R and ESB:R. Many thanks.
BTW: Are you going to use the better version of the Luke deepfake that’s been going around or stick with the show version?
Depends on whether I can get a HD source.
Sooo, this sequence took a while, but luckily its the last (and most difficult) link sequence. It takes the story from The Tragedy to The Rescue (The Believer has been cut).
I have changed the sequnces at the end of The Tragedy and start of The Rescue, and altered most of the dialogue between Mando and Cara on Nevarro.
This just leaves the opening sequence to sort, and tidying up of the landing on Trask. A version for test viewing will be available soon.
It is seamless, but it still begs the question… why can’t she train him? She says “I can’t train him.” OK, then why?
It’s explained in the previous scene. Saying she cannot train him here, is just reinforcing her position whilst offering a solution.
Managed to finish the Trask to Corvus link. The damaged Razorcrest plot point has been removed from the movie.
https://vimeo.com/514068328At first, I was like… but we don’t know where that person who planted it came from but then I realized it doesn’t matter. So, yeah, it’s really good. Perfectly seamless.
Yes, the insinuation being that its placed whilst Mando is on Trask, and we know the Empire has a presence there.
Here is the Corvus to Tython link. This one is pretty straightforward - just a couple of music edits and removal of the Child-Mando dialogue that I used in the Trask-Corvus link sequence.
Nice work on the audio to remove the bickering over Grogu being trained, totally seemless. Do you have a clip of your refined MOFF Gideon reveal to Mando?
That scene is much better now, however, I’m still searching through Another Life for a Katiee Sackoff line.
Managed to finish the Trask to Corvus link. The damaged Razorcrest plot point has been removed from the movie.
https://vimeo.com/514068328At first, I was like… but we don’t know where that person who planted it came from but then I realized it doesn’t matter. So, yeah, it’s really good. Perfectly seamless.
Yes, the insinuation being that its placed whilst Mando is on Trask, and we know the Empire has a presence there.
Here is the Corvus to Tython link. This one is pretty straightforward - just a couple of music edits and removal of the Child-Mando dialogue that I used in the Trask-Corvus link sequence.