smudger9

I’ve now edited together the final battle. I’ve cut Grogu and the Majordomo (which will allow me to completely remove the dreaded vespa chase) and it works really well. The audio is done except for the two music transitions into and out of the sequence, which I will re-score later.

Here is the link if you want to view it.
Password is my username

https://vimeo.com/683662024

CaptainFaraday said:

It’s a shame TCW is animated, because otherwise you could use it as flashbacks in the bacta tank. Perhaps just some audio of the two speaking could be put over footage of Boba sleeping in the tank, to imply a memory/nightmare?

Audio could certainly work as it’s the same voice actor. I could put in a brief flash of Bane’s face with a blurred outline.

Sirius said:

Chase Adams said:

smudger9 said:

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

I like that, but logistically you’d need to keep Grogu on Tatooine otherwise there’s no existing reunion between him and Mando.

Technically you don’t really need to maintain Grogu on Taooine to have a Mando and Grogu reunion. CarboniteSolo give this idea for a sequence of events, what I think could work for the final:

-Have Din arrive and spend time talking with Ahsoka, Luke training Grogu, but omit the scene when Ahsoka talks about Grogu’s training being interrupted if he sees him.

-Luke asking Grogu if he wants the lightsaber or his friend’s gift.

-Then we see Din’s ship flying off the planet.

-The last scene is Grogu tapping on the glass and Din pushing the button to accelerate.

Plus, you could take the central lines of their reunion and paste somewhere in this footage, maybe in the scene where Din’s ship is flying off the planet.

Managed to cut this together this evening. Actually didn’t take too much work and the result is really good.
Here is the sequence:

1. Final scene of BOBF Ep7 where the shot pans from Mos Espa up to space to the N1 Starfighter. Use the full shot until it cuts to Grogu (that is cut).
2. Cut in the scene aboard the star liner with the Rhodian child as he sees the N1 straighter move past. Keep the shot of Mando nodding to him (works as a great pointer to where Mando is going).
3. Cut in an onboard shot of Mando on the N1 and a shot of him punching in the booster.
4. Cut back to the Rhodian child as you see the N1 speed off in the glass reflection.
5. Wipe to the N1 Starfighter exiting hyperspace above Verdant (I may cut in an on-board hyperspace exit shot of Mando on the Razorcrest from S1).
6. The scenes on Verdant then play out with some cutting done.
7. Edited so that Mando doesn’t leave after he hands Ahsoka the beskar vest.
8. Altered Luke’s line “the Mandalorian was here” to the “Mandalorian is here”.
9. Run sequence as Luke ponders what to do with Grogu and cut in shot of Mando looking up at them (Zoomed to cut out Ahsoka). This reminds us that Mando is still there.
10. Wipe from Mando shot to the completed hut.
11. Run the Grogu “choice” scene with an extended close up shot of Grogu at the end.
12. Hard cut from close-up of Grogu in the hut to close-up of Grogu on the N1 Starfighter. Switch to the wide shot of the N1 and then run the sequence, ending with the Iris-out.

Boom! Works so much better than I expected and this is how I will now edit it.

Last tasks are to tighten up the middle of the Boba-Tatooine storyline and then decide on how many and how much to put into Boba’s flashbacks. Current runtime is 2h 55min, but I’m hoping to trim it back to 2h 45mins.

Its all coming together really nicely.

Sirius said:

Chase Adams said:

smudger9 said:

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

I like that, but logistically you’d need to keep Grogu on Tatooine otherwise there’s no existing reunion between him and Mando.

Technically you don’t really need to maintain Grogu on Taooine to have a Mando and Grogu reunion. CarboniteSolo give this idea for a sequence of events, what I think could work for the final:

-Have Din arrive and spend time talking with Ahsoka, Luke training Grogu, but omit the scene when Ahsoka talks about Grogu’s training being interrupted if he sees him.

-Luke asking Grogu if he wants the lightsaber or his friend’s gift.

-Then we see Din’s ship flying off the planet.

-The last scene is Grogu tapping on the glass and Din pushing the button to accelerate.

Plus, you could take the central lines of their reunion and paste somewhere in this footage, maybe in the scene where Din’s ship is flying off the planet.

This sequence is my next task. This week I’ve been cutting together the Tatooine finale and have managed to completely remove Grogu, Pelli and the Major-domo. The resulting cut is actually really good although the audio is going to be challenging!

leftshoe18 said:

I’m not sure how you could remove Grogu from Tatooine without resolving the whole rancor rampage thing.

The rancor rampage can actually be cut by having Boba v Bane be the climax. Then cutting to the Fennec assassination scene.

Darth Raditz said:

smudger9 said:

First cut coming in at the 3-hour mark, which is much longer than I would like. Annoyingly Mando’s trip to see Grogu completely derails the story, interferes with pacing and adds a huge chunk of time. I really wish they hadn’t used this series to reunite Mando and Grogu.

If pacing is an issue, have you toyed with making Mando’s visit to Luke’s planet a flashback in itself? That way you avoid the awkwardness of Mando telling Fennec “yeah, I’ll help you out…after I run some errands first.”

The idea I’m currently trying to run with is having Mando’s visit to Luke/Grogu at the end of the movie as a sort of epilogue.
The main barrier to this is whether I can successfully remove Grogu from Tatooine……

This would also fit really well with it being Mando Episode 3 because it starts with Din losing his clan, but ends with him getting Grogu back (and helping Boba in the middle).

CourtlyHades296 said:

Are there any plans for a full-on rescoring? I felt that the music was a letdown compared to Gorannson’s Mandalorian and especially Williams’ Skywalker Saga.

No. I thought the music was very good, and certainly not one of the major problems with the series. The music also bleeds very heavily into the central channel, so rescoring would be virtually impossible. I’ll add/adjust some music for transitions but that’s about it.

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

First cut coming in at the 3-hour mark, which is much longer than I would like. Annoyingly Mando’s trip to see Grogu completely derails the story, interferes with pacing and adds a huge chunk of time. I really wish they hadn’t used this series to reunite Mando and Grogu.

Sounds cool, it means 3.5h of fillers and messy stuff cut 😄

Dunno what’s your plan and if this idea helps but maybe yoy can cut all the twins/krrasantan thing from episodes 1-3 and introduce him with the scenes from chapter 4 where he beats up some people. It would spare us as well the miserable beating Boba got from him before 😄

Out of curiosity, how you are gonna treat the whole mototbike gang? 😉

About Grogu, maybe there’s some way of cutting him completely from the finale and leave the choice scene as the last scene/cliffhanger? This way, even when we see Mando abd Grogu together in the next episode, it will be just obvious the kid chose Mando, doesnt need to be shown on screen.

Anyway, Good luck with editing the finale 😉 if anyone can make this mess a coherent nice sequence, its you.

The motorbike gang have been vastly reduced. I’ve left in the recruitment scene in Mos Espa, but the chase scene has been completely cut, as has any reference to the Major’s majordomo… he flees the Mayor’s office and is never seen again!

I’ve kept the twins scenes in because they are tied to the Rancor and they do provide some valuable plot progression. I’ve dealt with Krrsantan by Boba offering him a job instead of releasing him, allowing me to cut his scene in the Catina.

Unfortunately you can’t have just Grogu’s choice scene because the choice is between the lightsaber and the beskar, which Mando needs to deliver.

Having watched the rough cut through, it does make a decent movie. Infinitely more watchable than the series itself. The difficult part is trying to make sense of Boba’s motivations.

So, you plan to remove the whole Groku/Mando/Ahsoka/Luke stuff?

JEDIT
3h movie sounds very ok I think. Nowadays, a lot of blockbusters reach 2h30-45min runtime so it’s okay.
Very interested to see how you edited Krrasantan thing 😄

No, the Luke/Grogu/Ashoka stuff will be there. I’d prefer it not to be, but it’s essential for the overarching story.
It will be trimmed to keep it more compact.

szopman said:

smudger9 said:

First cut coming in at the 3-hour mark, which is much longer than I would like. Annoyingly Mando’s trip to see Grogu completely derails the story, interferes with pacing and adds a huge chunk of time. I really wish they hadn’t used this series to reunite Mando and Grogu.

Sounds cool, it means 3.5h of fillers and messy stuff cut 😄

Dunno what’s your plan and if this idea helps but maybe yoy can cut all the twins/krrasantan thing from episodes 1-3 and introduce him with the scenes from chapter 4 where he beats up some people. It would spare us as well the miserable beating Boba got from him before 😄

Out of curiosity, how you are gonna treat the whole mototbike gang? 😉

About Grogu, maybe there’s some way of cutting him completely from the finale and leave the choice scene as the last scene/cliffhanger? This way, even when we see Mando abd Grogu together in the next episode, it will be just obvious the kid chose Mando, doesnt need to be shown on screen.

Anyway, Good luck with editing the finale 😉 if anyone can make this mess a coherent nice sequence, its you.

The motorbike gang have been vastly reduced. I’ve left in the recruitment scene in Mos Espa, but the chase scene has been completely cut, as has any reference to the Major’s majordomo… he flees the Mayor’s office and is never seen again!

I’ve kept the twins scenes in because they are tied to the Rancor and they do provide some valuable plot progression. I’ve dealt with Krrsantan by Boba offering him a job instead of releasing him, allowing me to cut his scene in the Catina.

Unfortunately you can’t have just Grogu’s choice scene because the choice is between the lightsaber and the beskar, which Mando needs to deliver.

Having watched the rough cut through, it does make a decent movie. Infinitely more watchable than the series itself. The difficult part is trying to make sense of Boba’s motivations.

First cut coming in at the 3-hour mark, which is much longer than I would like. Annoyingly Mando’s trip to see Grogu completely derails the story, interferes with pacing and adds a huge chunk of time. I really wish they hadn’t used this series to reunite Mando and Grogu.

natestarwarsfan122 said:

szopman said:

I know I may be a pain with this aspect, but does it make sense (for now at least) to still make it (The Book of) Boba Fett - Episode I?

We don’t really know yet if they plan the 2nd season. So ot would be off to have only Episode I with nothing to follow.
Then, if someone wanna watch SW in chronological order, we have:
Star Wars Episode VI, then Mandalorian Episode I, Episode II and then Boba Episode I 😄
And after Mando s03, it 'll be Mandalorian Episode I, Episode II, Boba Episode I and again Mando Episode III. So it’s like jumping between episodes of different subserieses. Maybe for now it makes more sense to make this Mando Episode III? Or simply Star wars:The book of boba fett or more like A Star Wars Story thing?

Don’t wanna criticise or anything, just sharing some insights about the bigger picture. Who knows, maybe after Ahsoka, it will even make more sense to make all yhos post-RotJ movies Episodes 7,8,9,10 and so on.

Honestly it could just be called The Mandalorian Episode 3: The Book of Boba Fett

The way the edit is shaping up, it’s definitely going to be Mando Ep3. However, I don’t think I’m going to go with the “Return of a Legend” title. I’m toying with “The New Way” but I think that sounds a little weak TBH.

ThanosM. said:

smudger9 said:

Well the finale was an unsatisfying mess. This is going to take a lot of work to sort it out! I honestly think an edit is the only way I’ll revisit the show. I start this evening……

Couldn’t agree more.

SPOILERS

I was hoping for an episode without Grogu. I wanted his and Mando’s recomposition to be an exclusive Mandalorian moment and a more emotional one. There were some cool moments in this episode, but, to be honest, I didn’t even care about the whole fight.

If I were to make an edit out of this season perhaps I would make a film about Boba’s past and his attempts to bring peace in Mos Espa until Episode 5. And then another film (maybe Mandalorian 3) with Episodes 5-6-7. Although it would be an underwhelming Mandalorian film.
Very intersted to see how you will handle such material. Wish you all the luck.

My current plan is to run the Mando and “present” Boba stories side by side with a heavily edited finale and 3 very brief flashbacks. My tactic will be to edit it in reverse, so my first task is to edit todays episode into something workable.

Well the finale was an unsatisfying mess. This is going to take a lot of work to sort it out! I honestly think an edit is the only way I’ll revisit the show. I start this evening……

CMMAP said:

Yet another outstanding „fan“edit of a character 😃
https://youtu.be/OHu5uYXYLFs

Agree. I didn’t see that much improvement with the Mando S2 deepfake Luke, but this is infinitely better and more true to the animated character. I would love to put this into my edit.

leftshoe18 said:

Well after the last episode it’s clear the best play is to make this Mandalorian 3. Maybe make the Boba flashbacks their own side movie.

Indeed. And TBH I can probably fit in enough edited flashbacks to support the narrative.

PMs sent.

Sirius said:

Kanemedhurst said:

Hello again, I don’t want to seem like I’m backseat editing or anything but I reckon we could get 2 movies from this.

The first could be a prologue, compiling and editing the flashbacks together. This could be THE boba fett film, doesent need to be a long one either. This probably would be fit for viewing between the 1st and 2nd Mando film.

The second could be the present plot from the BOBF. However, it is presented as a Mandolorian film (either Episode 3 or a spin off adventure). This could be done by weaving chapter 5 with a very condensed chapters 1-4 (followed by whatever happens next). This way, it would feel like Mandos isn’t stepping into Boba’s story, but the other way round.

Enjoying this season so far, but I feel that the apperance of Mando, and Boba’s story with the Tuskens are the highlight and the rest of the story is a bit bland.

Side note: If you keep alot of chapter 5 in, I beg for the line about dating jawas to be removed. I loath the fact that Jawas dating humans and being furry is now canon 😉

Wow, I totally agree with this. We don’t know how the story is gonna be developed in episodes 6 and 7, but for now, this approach makes too much sense for me.

This is currently how I’ve got it set up in my editing suite.

idir_hh said:

You could have the prologue be the post credit scene from MS2 and open straight with this episode and flash back to the present day segment after fennec shows up. Or you could continue straight with what happens in 6-7…
Either way, this makes for a less fluffy - more action packed story.

It certainly adds a huge amount of Mandalorian lore and ties up the main loose end from Mando S2. My tactic here will probably to edit it in reverse. Start with the (presumably) 2 episode finale, then weave together this episode and the present day story from Boba and then add in sufficient Boba flashback scenes to serve the story.

Wow. Today was totally not what I was expecting. Initial thoughts are that I interweave today’s episode with the present day story from the first 4 episodes, with them converging for the presumed 2 episode finale.

millerTEK said:

Smudge -

Just my input -
Since Mando 1 and 2 were really about Mando and the Grogu story - and though while Fett was introduced in that series - I’m not so sure these flashbacks about Fett in the new series should be ADDED to your previous 2 movies. Fett is a supporting character in those seasons - his past is not included for a reason…

Sort of like growing up watching episodes 4,5,6…with episodes 1,2,3 released, I still refuse to recommend people watch the movies in true number order. Episode 4 loses effect when you already know who Vader is when he first appears, etc for 5 and 6…

So, watching the new series about Fett, I love the flashbacks as they are shown in stages relevant to the present story— if that makes sense. Questions are being answered about Fett in pieces at the right time and would not be beneficial being answered earlier in the previous season movies as then watching Fett’s season, you already know the past story.

sorry if folks disagree - I guess I’m a Pulp Fiction fan, too and though I still have friends that hate the time jumping, I know these items are mixed for the purpose of using the chapter storytelling format presented. I have watched the fanedit of Pulp presenting everything in order…and it’s just not the same…and lacks the suspense and depth you feel otherwise…

thanks!

steve

I was never intending to add a huge amount of this series into the Mando movies. I’m only going to insert scenes if they add to the Mando movies themselves.

So far the only thing I’m definitely adding is the scene where Boba approaches Fennec’s body because the scene from Gunslinger feels way too short.

It’ll be interesting to see if we get any further flashbacks as we’re almost up to Mando season 2 in terms of the timeline. I’d love to get a few flashback scenes of Boba tracking Mando. That would fit nicely into the second Mando movie.

STF78 said:

The key to this edit might be reducing boba fett’s dialogue as it seems out of character for him to be as verbose as he is in the show. I just read an interview with Temuera Morrison who said himself that he didn’t think it was consistent with previous appearances and had asked Jon Favreau to cut his dialogue down

I’m all over that already 😁

Yeah, the only good thing abut the speeder chase is that it can be cut completely without losing anything from the story. You can transition straight from the Hutt/Rancor scene to the Skyliner arriving.

My rough cut of the first 3 episodes is still only 53 mins with some brief flashbacks to be added, which shows just how little of these episodes progresses the story. Total time of the flashbacks is 71 mins, so there is still a chance there will be enough material to warrant a separate movie.

There’s certainly a lot that deserves to be cut! I might end up with a movie less than 2 hours long!

So, this series really isn’t what I was expecting. For the 2 episodes so far we have 25 mins of “present” and 65 mins of “flashback”.

Overall I’m really liking it, but some of the Tusken scenes like the Episode 1 creature battle and the train heist didn’t sit too well with me.

My current feeling is to keep this movie to just the “present” and add in some very brief flashback scenes. However, the Tusken story is clearly going to tie into the “present” story, and it’ll be a question of whether brief flashback scenes will be enough to keep that eventual payoff. Time will tell…

Me too