smudger9

yoshif8tures said:

Drop me a link and I’ll preview it

Amazing. Thanks. PM sent

ClerkDante said:

Hey Smudger,

I’ve heard great things about your work and would very much appreciate links to your 3 Mando edits to prep for S3.

PM Sent

So having completed the first cut I’m now working my way through the second cut.

I’ve completed the first 35 mins, which is probably the toughest part because I need to incorporate some scenes from episodes 4, 5, 6 and 7 that I left out of episode 1.

I’ve uploaded this segment to googledrive. If anyone is keen to watch and offer feedback send me a PM. It’s a second cut so some of the music transitions are incomplete.

What I’ve done with the first act is:

Open on Coruscant and intercut between Syril arriving on Coruscant, Kleya meeting Vel and Dedra briefing Yularen and the ISB… “everyone is looking for Andor”. I then cut straight from Syril looking at Andor’s hologram to Andor arriving on Narkina.

Syril’s mother has been cut from the edit to give Syril a stronger character.

Andor’s first shift on Narkina is intercut with Syril’s first day at the Bureau of Standards. This provides a much better juxtaposition than Mon Mothma’s social gathering.

I then use the nighttime Narkina scene with the time skip to do 2 things.
Firstly to introduce the first of 2 flashback scenes of Cassian’s return to Ferrix shortly after the heist. These were cut from episode 1 because of the effect his return to Ferrix had on the pacing, but his scenes with Maarva are crucial to the plot going forwards and Cassian’s character development.
Secondly, to tie in Cyril’s job at the Bureau of Standards with the time skip, fitting in with Dedra’s lines about his search for Andor.

This puts me back onto the chronological timeline of the series from the midpoint of episode 8 apart from the first meeting of Mon Mothma and Tay, which will be moved to later in the edit.

I have edited Vel and Cinta’s first scene on Ferrix to remove reference to Vel leaving. In this edit Vel will remain on Ferrix. Her trip back to Coruscant and connection to Mon Mothma add nothing to the story.

The second Cassian-Maarva flashback scene is slotted into the scene where Cassian is awoken by the Narking Suicide. Maarva’s references to Cassian’s sister have been cut.

I’ve just uploaded a minor update. This version removes Mando’s mention of the Beskar spear being the gift of a Jedi. He now ignores the armourer’s question and talks about it being able to block a lightsaber. Not an amazing solution, but no worse than “a good question for another time” 😂.

Hopefully season 3 will provide some Mando or armourer lines to provide a better solution.

I’ve just uploaded a newly rendered version, which sorts out the sound problems that were present at a few points in the last upload.

stallion258 said:

Any chance that I could get a link too? Thanks!

PM Sent for all three edits. Great time to watch them…… 7 days to season 3!

szopman said:

So, I finally finished watching the edit 😉 Great job!!

I think that in terms of having one coherent story, it was the easiest source material you got so far to work with 😉

I love what you did with it, I appreciate you polished the intro, it looks perfect now. I think it was a good decision to keep it 3h. Sometimes to make the story more coherent and have better pacing means to make it longer, let it breathe etc. There was just too much of really good stuff to keep, so it was a good decision to keep it. And of course, I like the reduced flashback (tho I’m one of those viewers that would just erase it completely 😄).

I just have one question - why didnt you use the classic ending credits style? You have always used it so far. Also, it was used in all cinematic Star Wars movies, so I was surprised when I didn’t see the blue letters on black background 😄

Overall, great job, as always. I’ll definitely include this in my every year SW marathons (I saw your TCW Episode I like 5 times already, Mando EP I two or three, the v1 one 😉 ). You changed a very good show into a damn good movie!

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!

I didn’t think much about the end credits TBH. I just kept the same colour as the show. No drama to change them to blue.

honestabe said:

How much of Cyril’s mother do you plan to include in this portion of your edit?

I personally agree with his personal character development, but I felt his mother was easily the worst part of the show whose primary role appeared to diminish his character.

Funny you should say that. I’m currently trying to work out if I can cut her out completely!

Devils_Cabana_Boy said:

Really digged this edit, it flowed really well and had great pacing throughout… Any word on when Episode 2 might be potentially dropping? Would be good to see what you can do with all of the prison scene stuff…

Thanks 🙏.

I’ve done a very rough first cut of episode 2. The first 30mins will take some work to integrate Syril’s story and add in Andor’s trip to Ferrix as flashbacks. I anticipate working on it whilst Mando S3 is airing. Then I’ll move onto Mando Ep4.

yoshif8tures said:

smudger9 said:

yoshif8tures said:

I finished watching this and I must say that it is the best way to rewatch the series. Especially since these two acts especially slow paced.
I loved how that was dramatically increased whilst not sacrificing any of the story beats at all.
This will now be my go to version for when I want ti revisit this series.

Thanks Yoshif. It was really tempting to make deeper cuts to get the runtime down towards 2.5 hours, but I’m hoping I made the right decision to allow it to slide towards 3 hours.

Out of curiosity, what would you have cut out to get the runtime down that much?

I was contemplating cutting:
The Morlana 1 scenes.
All the flashbacks.
The Pegland/Cassian scene.
The destruction of the Corpo shuttle.
Some of the Mon Mothma and ISB scenes.
A few more Aldhani camp scenes.

Thant would have pushed it down to 2:30.

yoshif8tures said:

I finished watching this and I must say that it is the best way to rewatch the series. Especially since these two acts especially slow paced.
I loved how that was dramatically increased whilst not sacrificing any of the story beats at all.
This will now be my go to version for when I want ti revisit this series.

Thanks Yoshif. It was really tempting to make deeper cuts to get the runtime down towards 2.5 hours, but I’m hoping I made the right decision to allow it to slide towards 3 hours.

NeverarGreat said:

It is a dark time for the galaxy.

The EMPIRE rules with an iron fist. But amid this tyranny, pockets of resistance have started to form.

Desperate for support, these REBEL groups have turned to a network of secret agents to supply them with stolen Imperial assets.

In possession of a valuable piece of Imperial technology, a young thief prepares to meet the man behind this shadow network…

Sounds great. However, I wanted to convey that the the network approached the rebel groups, rather than the other way around.

StarkillerAG said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

I still hasn’t finished watching (won’t be able to watch it all at once today) but I noticed one little thing that makes the opening text feel very off.

The first line is centered, while the other 3 paragraphs are to the left. Its a little detail maybe but it really “hit” my eyes and made it look very faneditish to me.

The written content itself and its pacing is great, not too long,not too short, more like “Solo”. But still, I really think the format has to be corrected 😉

Once I watch it all, I ll be able to share more insights 😉

Thanks for the feedback. I tried a number of different formats for the crawl - all centered, all left aligned, centred with left aligned. This is the one I thought looked the best. The idea is that the first line is a sort of subtitle to the film title. Then the following three paragraphs are the exposition. I guess I could just combine the first 2 lines and keep it all left aligned if it bothers more people.

I personally think the first line would look better left aligned, although I do like it being a separate paragraph for additional emphasis.

Also, there’s a typo in the text; the first line should say “it’s a dark time,” rather than “its”. Personally, though, I think it would look more Star Wars-y to get rid of the contraction completely: “It is a dark time for the galaxy.”

EDIT: There should also be a comma in the third sentence: “But as the oppression grows, pockets of resistance have started to form.”

Thanks for the input. Corrections made. I’ve gone for centred because the shorter line doesn’t look right with left allignment.

Now rendering new versions with this intro and the rogue frame removed.

szopman said:

I still hasn’t finished watching (won’t be able to watch it all at once today) but I noticed one little thing that makes the opening text feel very off.

The first line is centered, while the other 3 paragraphs are to the left. Its a little detail maybe but it really “hit” my eyes and made it look very faneditish to me.

The written content itself and its pacing is great, not too long,not too short, more like “Solo”. But still, I really think the format has to be corrected 😉

Once I watch it all, I ll be able to share more insights 😉

Thanks for the feedback. I tried a number of different formats for the crawl - all centered, all left aligned, centred with left aligned. This is the one I thought looked the best. The idea is that the first line is a sort of subtitle to the film title. Then the following three paragraphs are the exposition. I guess I could just combine the first 2 lines and keep it all left aligned if it bothers more people.

STF78 said:

Excellent edit of an excellent show. It flows really well and the edits are largely seemless. The only feedback I could give beyond the praise is that I think I caught a flash frame around the 40 min 37 secs mark- an image of a console screen flashes for a second in between the shots of the security police on the transport and the ship flying over Aldani

Ahh yes. Well spotted. Looks like a rogue 1080 frame left in when I was converting to 4K. I’ll clip that out and re-upload.

szopman said:

I think most of us will agree that the prison arc was the best part of “Andor” so far, the creme de la creme. I think Ep II should heavily focus on this storyline 😉

Oh it will…… it will be the spine of the edit. However, like the rest of Andor, it just needs a small injection of “faster, more intense”.

yoshif8tures said:

What scenes do you intend on cutting? Hope it’s not huge since this arc was by far my favourite of the series

I haven’t gone through the prison arc in detail. So far I’ve been concentrating on pulling together the other plot threads and figuring out how to work them around the prison arc.

The only decision I’ve made so far regarding the prison arc is to cut the Niaomos scenes - the shoretrooper dialogue and kangaroo court scene really didn’t sit well with me. So the edit will open by establishing what is happening with Syril, Vel, Kleya and Deedra. Basically everyone is looking for Andor. Then it will cut to Andor en route to Narkina 5.

honestabe said:

I am not 100% sure what exactly you would be looking for, but I believe there are some images in the links below that occur during the prison break and after. I hope there is something here that is helpful.

I apologize in advance if there is an excess of links below.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/1054l90/andor_concept_arts/

https://www.starwars.com/andor-concept-art-gallery?

https://collider.com/andor-concept-art-diego-luna/

https://www.reddit.com/r/deepdream/comments/vw7jsx/cassian_andor_concept_art_midjourney/

https://conceptartworld.tumblr.com/post/700130742302294016/star-wars-andor-e-poster-by-illustrator-hugh

https://thefutureoftheforce.com/2022/11/16/the-star-wars-andor-concept-artwork-reveals-a-fresh-look-at-the-rebellion/

Thanks. Yes that’s what I was looking for. Sadly nothing really coverart worthy in there. I’ll have to do a photoshop job on a screen grab from the series.

honestabe said:

smudger9 said:

Thanks for your interest. Here is the link to the Googledrive folder.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1roj6l4FYEB71VFt9z778ZOUnHSKN0yl2?usp

I hope you enjoy it.

Please leave a review in the thread if you get the chance.

All the best

I think you meant to send this privately?

Oops. Yes I did! Could you edit your post to take the link out of the quote.

Thanks!

DMs sent

Here is Episode 2 of my Andor Saga.
Running time is 2h 57mins, exactly the same as Episode 1. Its bulky but the material is just so damn good that the time flies by.

Available as:
Uncompressed 1080 MP4 [9.6GB]
Compressed 4K MKV [4.0GB]

Here is a list of the changes:

Broad Changes

The Movie has been edited to introduce a time skip between this and Andor Episode 1. During the time skip the Vel has disposed of the hauler, the stolen credits have been hidden by the rebel network, Dedra has continued her investigation into the rebels and Andor has assumed a new identity.
Andor has been captured off screen to eliminate the Niamos scenes. His capture is explained in the opening text.
The remaining elements of Episode 7 have been used as the opening scenes to set up that everyone is trying to hunt down Andor, unaware that he is en route to an Imperial prison under an assumed name.
Syril’s Coruscant scenes that were cut from the previous edit are utilised but his mother is cut completely.
Vel now leaves Coruscant after she is ordered to find Andor and doesnt return. Her connection to Mon Mothma is absent.
Linus Mosk is cut completely. This gives Syril’s character more strength and autonomy. Syril’s presence on Ferrix is largely cut. He only appears when he rescues Dedra.
Andor’s return to Ferrix from EPisode 7 is utilised as two dream flashback sequences whilst he’s on Narkina-5. These scenes are essential for Andor and Marrva’s character arcs and the ISB’s investigations but don’t work well if used chronologically.
Scenes involving Mon Mothma and her family are largely cut. Only the basic plot requiring her to sacrifice her daughter remains.
There has been a vast restructuring in this edit with a lot of scenes moved around. This required numerous new audio transitions requiring combinations of audio rebuild, rescore and use of audio revurb to make them seemless.

Detailed Changes
Opening sequence and text to match Episode 1
Syril’s arrival on Coruscant from EP4 is intercut with Kleya meeting with Vel from EP7 and Dedra briefing Yularen and the ISB from EP8. Syril arrives at the appartment but his mother is cut.
The sequnce ends with Syril in his room looking at the hologram of Andor. Here I have cut together two seperate scenes to give it length and emotianl weight. the audio has been rebuilt and scored using a segment of the Episode 5 Main theme.
This sequence sets up the theme of the movie…… everyone is looking for Andor.

Episode 8
Sharp cut to Andor arriving on Narkina. The arrival sequence is edited to be continuous as the ISB scene is part of the opening sequence.
Cut to Syril arriving for his first day at the Bureau of Standards from EP7. The external shot has been removed and replaced with a repeat shot from within the bureau with rebuilt audio to remove intro music.
Cut to Andor in his prison uniform, being delivered to his unit. The sequence is shortened to remove the uneccessary interplay between the guards about staffing levels.
The “sprint segment" on the factory floor has been cut.
Cut from Andor’s shocked face to Syril at his Bureau work station from EP7. Use of revurb on the machiinery audio leads nicely into the silence of the Bureau. The audio in the Bureau scene has been rebuilt to remove the music. The monotonous background hum of the Bureau works much better to show Syril’s plight following the events of Episode 1.
Cut to Andor on the bridge at the end of the shift. The orientation sequence plays out as one continuous scene with the Mon Mothma scenes removed and placed later in the edit. I’ve used Syrils scenes as the juxaposition to Andor rather than the Mon Mothma scenes. Mon Mothma has no connection to Andor, whereas Syril’s arc is driven entriely by his obsession with Andor.
We cut from Andor reflecting in the darkness of his pod to the first of 2 flashback scenes using footage of his return to Ferrix from EP7. This first flashback is of Andor returning to Maarva’s house and her agreeing to leave ferrix with him. The audio is rebuilt to remove the music. Sound effects are added as an intro to the flashback.
Cut to shot of the hot prison floor and pan to Andor in the dark leading to the "30 shifts later” timejump. This scene is used upto the point where the prisoners leave the shower and pick up their clothing.
Cut to Syril at the Bureau as the ISB arrive to take him in for questioning. End cue from the Fuel purity track is used as the inro transition. The audio at the end of the scene is rebuilt to remove the music and a version of Syril Suite music cue from Episode 11 is used as the outro music.
Hard cut straight to Syril in the ISB interrogation room as Dedra arrives. Audio at the start is rebuilt to remove the music, allowing the music from the previous scene to transition through.
Cut to the prison as a normal shift unfolds.
Cut to Syril’s second interrogation scene.
Cut to Ferrix scenes of Brasso and Bix with Maarva and the watching Vel and Sinta. Vel and Sinta’s scene is heavily edited to remove reference to Vel leaving Sinta on her own.
Ferrix and Luthen/Cleya scenes play out in sequence but with the scene of Vel leaving Ferrix being cut and removing Luthen “not knowing what he knows” when talking about Andor.
Cut to nightime prison scene where the prisoner is about to commit suicide. Added in shot of Andor sleeping. Then cut to the second Ferrix Flashback scene where Maarva tells Andor she is staying on Ferrix. The Flashback of young Andor v the Clones is removed to avoid having a flashback within a flashback - it is used later. Cut Maarva “That’s just love… nothing you can do about that” - those lines never sat well with me. Edit Andor’s exit to cut references to Andor’s sister. AUdio rebuilt and the end of the Maarva’s Rebellion track used as the ooutro music.
Cut back to a reversed, trimmed shot of the prison at nightime and Andor sleeping as the fellow prisoner jumps to his death.
Cut back to Ferrix scene where Bix is spotted - “Get Heeeeeer” is cut.
Cut to Luthen and Saw. Part of Saw’s rant is removed.
Cut to Bix’s capture and meeting with Dedra.
Cut to the Prison floor…. Only the very start of this scene is used and combined with the frist prison scene of Episode 9 to create a single scene.

Episode 9
First prison scene moved up to provide a spacer between the Bix/Dedra scene at the end of the last episode and start of this episode. Audio revurb used to create an ominous audio transition that cuts straight to Dedra turning around to face Bix.
Audio rebuilt at the start of the Bix/Dedra scene to remove the music, allowing the revurb audio to transition through.
The torture scenes have been removed. I’ve gone with the ANH tactic with the torture being implied rather than shown. It also helped with the pacing. We see the suggestion of the torture, the results of it and the information gained from it.
Mon Mothma/Vel scenes cut with these scenes replaced with the Mon Mothma political gathering scenes from EP8. These follow on from her senate scene with the middle of the three scenes being cut completely.
Syril’s mother is cut.
The ISB scene where Dedra briefs Partagaz on Bix’s interrogation is moved back and follows on from the final Mothma scene. This scene then transitions with a wipe to the next day at the Narkia 5 prison.
The Syril/Dedra scene is edited to make Syril appear less creepy. “Have you been waiting out here…… Yes”, “Being in your presence” and “I sense it, I know it” have been cut. This scene is cut into 2 parts. As Dedra walks into the ISB building we cut to the next Prison floor scene and then back to Dedra as she arrives at her office.
Removed the prison doctor “He’s had a massive stroke” - I dont like “earthy” langage in my Star Wars!
Moved the last ISB briefing scene to the end to provide a spacer scene between the prison scene at the end of this episode and the start of the next.

Episode 10
Cut Ulaf’s body being taken through the factory floor.
Cut Mon Mothma “I’d feel far more comfotable paying you for your trouble” - sounds like something out of a west end musical!
Cut first 2 clips of Andor cutting the pipe - we have already seen him working on that pipe but it looks untouched.
Trim the sequence of the new prisoner being prepped for dropping onto the floor - speeds up the sequenece.
Trimmed the breakout sequence. The floor is activated a lot earlier, as it should have been.
Cut the shot of water dripping through the ceiling of another floor.
Cut Kino hesitating and not knowing what to say over tannoy.
Trimmed Lonni’s journey in the lift.
Cut references to Lonni’s child.
Cut to Melshi and Andor running… audio rebuilt and re-scored using “Tell me they’re leaving”. Wipe transition to Chapter 11 scene at Maarva’s house.

Episode 11
Cut Andor and Melshi on the cliff.
Cut Andor and Melshi’s capture and escape with the aliens - poorly executed scenes. Having their escape happen off screen works just as well.
Cut Vel and Kleya scene.
Cut Vel and Mon Mothma scene.
Cut Brasso - B2 scene.
Cut scene where Bix is asked about Anto Kreeger.
Cut Syril/Linus scene.
Keep scene of Syril emptying his safe but cut his mother leaving the apartment.
Cut Melchi from the Niamos scene - implies that Melchi and Andor already agreed to separate before this point.
Move the Fondor battle scene to the end to provide a better transition into the next episode.

Episode 12
Cut first scene of Wilmon making the bomb.
Edit Vel/Cinta scene to remove references to Vel coming back - she has been there the whole time.
Edit scene when Andor touches his father’s brick so that the flashback is of him being killed by the Clone Troopers - provides a more powerful resolution to the story.
Cut Luthen speeder sequence.
Cut all scenes involving Linus and Cyril. Cyrils’ presence on Ferrix is unknown until the point where he rescues Deedra.
Trim the funeral band procession to speed up the pacing.
Cut the extended pause during Maarva’s hologram speech.
Cut Bix refusing to leave with Andor.
Add post credits Death Star scene as the final scene before cut to credits.

RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT!!

All done and dusted.
Have to say its a really satisfying edit. Having worked solidly on a project for 6months or so I often find the final watch-through slightly underwhelming. This edit was totally different. Such a fun watch.

Available formats are:
1080 MP4 12.7GB - Streamable and Downloadable
4K MKV [H.264] 3.1GB

PM for details.

marry68 said:

You might preserve the murder, but alter the reason that Cassian was there in the first place. It’s possible that he’s trying to sell the star path unit rather than looking for his sister at this location.

That’s what I’ve now done. The brothel is completely cut snd Andor’s reason for being on Morlana is explained in the opening text.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X5qmVHhBa7vbp_iuVW53DKbEmC2K8T1R

I’ve taken the late decision to make this 4K (I will also be releasing a 1080 version).
I’ve already upgraded half of it, so probably a 1-week delay.

AdmiralWasabi10191 said:

But, but, but, butt, BUTTE, there’s already a Spark of Rebellion. This one must be the sequel, or a retitling might be in order.
STAR WARS REBELS: Spark of Rebellion

ANYWAY. Three part structure/movies might be fitting because of the ‘arcs’ for this season. Possibly restructured again when all of Season 2 is released? Could be damn fun.
I know which scene I’d always leave in.

The title was a deliberate homage to Rebels.

I don’t think this episode will change when season 2 is released. It works too well as an opening movie. Episode 2 may well change.