Are you going to delete the short scene where Gideon is tracking Mando and Grogu ? I think it just didn’t make any sense.
Very mediocre season but I’m sure your edit will make it much more enjoyable;)
I haven’t yet done a second watch-through with my editing head on. I’m sure if it doesn’t make sense I’ll cut it!
I honestly think Elia Kane could be removed from the fanedit quite smoothly since she doesn’t factor into the finale and her and Pershing’s story only slowed things down to a grinding halt
The Pershing story was already in the bin! Thankfully the finale passed without reference to him. Kane will appear twice, in her role as Gideon’s spy.
In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?
Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.
Are you able to give us any more info on the potential changes to episodes two and three?
Episode 2 is a bit of an issue because it now has some important story elements missing.
- Carson Teva’s interactions with Mando/Nevarro.
- The cloning facility on Nevarro.
- Elspeth Morgan and the Beskar spear.
These elements were cut to stick to a reasonable runtime and allow Luke’s appearance to be the finale. However, these elements have become very important.
My current thinking is to put these elements back into episode 2 and have the movie end on a cliffhanger with Gideon’s capture of Grogu. (Like ESB).
The rescue can then be the opening of Episode 3 and the sudden decision to capture Pershing can be explained in the opening crawl. I will then cut Boba’s story down to a bare minimum and have episode three to focus on Mando and Grogu.
Grogu’s training scenes will be intercut with Mando’s journey. Mando will not travel to meet Grogu, Grogu will make his decision and then head off to find Mando.The main negative is that Luke’s first appearance begs to be the finale of a movie, not the end of the opening act, but this would allow all the important story beats to be included.
I know it may be a big change, but why not split season 2 into two movies?
2x07 is one of the best fillers ever in Star Wars franchise. So you could maybe make one movie that ends with Grogu’s capture and then another (a bit shorter) one that would end with Luke big finale?
Or, alternatively, you could make 1 film from 2x01-5 (cutting filler of course), intercutting the storylines of Mando, Ahsoka and Boba (using some flashbacks from TBOBF, like him starting to work with Fennec). Then the 2nd film would start with some good intense action (2x06) and its main theme could be rescuing Grogu.I think s02 is totally worth 2 films (this way you can extend Ahsoka’s stuff as well).
There’s not really enough material for 2 movies in season 2. It’s in that horrible zone of too much for one but not enough for 2.
On a plus note, season 3 wrapped up nicely with no annoying Filoni call backs to elements that I had decided to cut! Looks like episode 4 will clock in around the 2h 35 mark.
Is something that will be available to purchase on Blu-ray ?
Fanedits aren’t sold, they are shared for free and should only be watched if you have legal access to the original source material.
In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?
Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.
Are you able to give us any more info on the potential changes to episodes two and three?
Episode 2 is a bit of an issue because it now has some important story elements missing.
These elements were cut to stick to a reasonable runtime and allow Luke’s appearance to be the finale. However, these elements have become very important.
My current thinking is to put these elements back into episode 2 and have the movie end on a cliffhanger with Gideon’s capture of Grogu. (Like ESB).
The rescue can then be the opening of Episode 3 and the sudden decision to capture Pershing can be explained in the opening crawl. I will then cut Boba’s story down to a bare minimum and have episode three to focus on Mando and Grogu.
Grogu’s training scenes will be intercut with Mando’s journey. Mando will not travel to meet Grogu, Grogu will make his decision and then head off to find Mando.
The main negative is that Luke’s first appearance begs to be the finale of a movie, not the end of the opening act, but this would allow all the important story beats to be included.
In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?
Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.
Love the changes made Smudger! I agree the Pershing stuff is better left on the cutting room floor.
I think we can do without Grogu getting the armor. If we see it in the finale, like he gets hit or something and it protects him, we can just imply that they armored him up before they went to Mandalore.
But I do think you should keep the flashback though. What if you just implemented parts of it into this scene? Just trim it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_l-dI5CFY&ab_channel=DailyDisclosure
That’s exactly what I’m going to do!
Isn’t Grogu getting the armor made of Beskar significant because it shows that he’s a foundling, accepted as a Mandalorian?
It is, but again that plot thread hasn’t been expanded upon. I’m also removing the training sequence. This leaves the audience to assume, rightly IMO, that he’s too young to be considered a foundling.
With just the finale to go, I’ve been spending a bit of time on the edit this weekend given that we pretty much know how its going to play out. I’ve made a few significant changes to my plan.
Firstly I’ve decided to remove the Dr Pershing thread completely. It doesn’t seem to be going anywhere and the scenes don’t work well as the parallel story to the main plot. Gideon explains to the shadow council what happened to Pershing and I think that’s all that is needed.
Instead I’ve reinstated the first Nevarro scene (minus the brief space battle with Mando) to have the Pirate and New Republic/Gideon threads as the parallel story using Carson Teva as the link between the Pirate and New Republic threads.
I have moved the scene of Teva discovering Gideon’s shuttle into the first act, along with the Shadow Council scene (which I’ve split from Kane’s report). Gideon is our villain in this season, so I want his presence to be felt throughout, not a reveal in the final act.
I’ve also removed the armourer/Grogu scene along with Grogu’s flashback. I love part of that flashback scene, but its not essential. The rest of the scene doesn’t add anything and now that Grogu has IG-12 it seems that the armour he was presented with is insignificant.
Including the opening crawl the current runtime is 2h15, which will comfortably allow the finale to be added without having to do any further trimming. Fingers crossed that the things I’ve cut don’t end up being crucial! Although knowing Filoni they will be!
Can’t wait for the finale!
Hi, I started watching this episode and it’s great so far! Will post my thoughts once finishing it. One thing I would argue for the beginning though is to reinstate a version of the first scene, as it introduces Mando in a much cooler way. In this version, the crawl states he’s an expert bounty hunter, but the first scene we get with Din is a dinosaur wiping the floor with him. Seeing how cool he is for his first scene would do a lot, although it would add to the runtime slightly.
Somewhat unrelated, but after the Filoni movie announcement I’ve been thinking of ways to combine all these shows into one storyline - it might be cool to label the movie saga as Heir to the Empire and have the subtitle be the focus. S1 could be The Mandalorian, S2 could be The Jedi, Boba could be The Bounty Hunter, and S3 could relate to Bo. Then Ahsoka would follow a similar theme, and eventually the real movie. This way all the shows could follow one storyline with each “film” focusing on a different thing.
I dont disagree with you about the opening scene. One of the difficulties with making these movie edits is deciding what needs to be sacrificed for structure and pacing, and to protect the runtime. It does show us Mando at his bounty hunting peak, but in terms of pacing it made the first act too long. I tried to compensate by removing most of the occasions where he gets shot (Ig-11, Fennec, Gideon) to make him seem a more competent warrior - he gets shot an awful lot of times during season 1.
I’ve been planning to rewatch Andor and I think your two films would be the perfect way to do it. Could I please get links for both?
Sure thing. DM sent.
2h25min? In the end you saved more than I thought you would 😄
That’s a rough cut. None of the scenes have been “tightened” yet.
There is some important stuff in Episode 1, but there is also a lot that doesn’t need to be included. Din’s first trip to Bo Katan is the opening scene. The first Nevarro trip is not in currently because there isn’t anything essential and we subsequently revisit Nevarro multiple times. The opening scene of the Armourer’s covert is also included, but the monster is removed - there are just too many monsters in this season! I’m trying to be minimalist at the moment because I really don’t want to end up with so much material that I need to do 2 movies. The aim is very much 1 movie, 2h 45 runtime.
The New Republic Plot is also in there, but focused on Kane and edited down to a minimum. It is spaced out and intercut with the primary storyline.
Current rough cut is 2h 25 with one episode left!
I guess we just got like 50min of useful footage for this edit 😄
Finally!
Can I get a link please?
Yes, please remove that awful Romeo and Juliet scene. I think Bo and Din arriving on the planet and them meeting up with the other Mandos is all that’s worth keeping from this episode. Everything else belongs in the bin.
This is the way!
I’m really wondering how this fanedit will end up 😄
Maybe you could switch the first scene of the new chapter to somewhere in the beginning of the movie ? It’s a nice filler that shows well what are the mandalorians up to and how they use the stolen imperial starships.
I think it can be an enjoyable movie, you could trim a bit the 1st ep, leaving a bit of pirate stuff (it’s fun and its a nice opening for the later storyline with Mandos rescuing the capital), trim the 2nd ep, leave some bits of 3x03 (depending on how much impact it ll have on the whole story), trim heavily 3x04, trim considerably 3x05 and cut 95% of the 3x06. The 3x03 side story can serve well to make the pacing better, to fill some moments/time jumps between the quests 😉
That opening Romeo/Juliet scene is painful viewing IMO. Can’t believe they couldn’t come up with a better scene for “Mandos for hire”.
The problem with including the pirate scenes from EP1 is that we then get too much planet hopping in the opening act.
My current thinking is to move the pirate takeover to the start of the edit and then space out the subsequent scenes from that thread and intercut with the main Mando plot.
I have just finished watched Ep1 and E2 back to back, and i’m blown away. Truly a special edit. Thank you so much for the expereience. About to press play on Ep3. Very excited 😃
Great job Smudger9!
Thanks Rob! I Hope you enjoy Ep3!
Another major filler episode. Luckily it’s a very simple edit to remove the core and just leave the first and last scenes. This season is so thin on plot progression. I’m basically on 90mins worth of content from 6 episodes! 😬 Here’s hoping that the last 2 episodes are worth the wait.
PMs sent to everyone that has requested links. If I’ve missed you, let me know.
You’ve identified the arch nemesis of the faneditor……. Music.
If you haven’t been able to remove the music using 6 channel isolation and standard noise reduction software, then you’re a bit stuck.
If the remaining music is very quiet you can sometimes add the new score over the top which drowns out the old score.
Beyond that the only option really is to rebuild the audio track from scratch. It’s painstaking but achievable for sound effects, and virtually impossible for dialogue.
Btw Isn’t Andor part II your tenth fanedit ? 😉
I think you’re right! And I’ve got about 10 unfinished ones! 😂
Hahaha I just have realized that the whole Pirate plot from 3x05 will work the same even if u cut 3x01 stuff 🙈 it’s obvious that Mando would help the guy anyway 😉
Do you think it’d be possible to somehow cut Grogu from the story and move the whole Skywalker thing to the end ? So far, Grogu is just there for most of the time, not really doing anything 😅
The flashback with Jedi JarJar could be nicely included in the moment when Luke brings his memory back. Then, you could cut Like/Grogu story from the 3rd movie and replace it with for ex Dr Pershing/New Republic stuff (and finish it with the cliffhanger with Moff Gideon’s escape reveal).
There really isn’t any way of cutting Grogu without some serious special effects. He is in a lot of shots and he’s also fundamental to Bo arriving on Mandalore to rescue Din.
I’m trying to streamline as much as I can. I’ve just done a rough draft that completely eliminates the youngling rescue from Episode 4. I need to hunt down some armourer dialogue then I can share the cut.
So as of now my edit includes most of episode 2 and very small segments of episodes 1, 3 and 4. I’d also love to cut most of episode 5 but I don’t think that’s possible and that plot may be needed to allow inclusion of a parallel story to give spacer scenes between the hard edits of Mando’s story.
Uff, this season doesn’t make it easy for you in terms of editing 😉
Maybe it’s time to consider making it two episodes?
At the moment it looks more like one very short one 😂
I’d love a link to this. I haven’t gotten around to watching the first 1 – life’s been crazy. So could I get a link to that one again too, just in case, I misplaced it. Might have myself a lovely weekend watching them back to back sometime soon!!
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