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#1516749
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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darthrush said:

After watching this through in full, I was THOROUGHLY impressed. Episode 1 of smudger9’s Mando is on its own one of my favorite Star Wars movies, period.

The cuts are seamless. Not at any point in the edit did it feel like I was watching an edit.

The pacing is excellent, certain scenes are removed in the final act of the film to up the tension and also increase the emotional payoff. Having the audience wonder what happened to Grogru after seeing Kuill dead and then getting the reveal of IG 88 riding with Grogru is extremely satisfying.

Smudger9 knocked this fanedit out of the park.

Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. The season 1 material really lent itself to a 3-act movie and resulting edit was really satisfying.

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#1514471
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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arabian said:

I started watching the workprint, but real life has gotten in the way and I haven’t finished it yet, but I did want to make a few comments on what I have watched so far.

  • The crawl is mostly good, but you can lose the last paragraph. There isn’t that much tell in the official crawls, and besides we actually get that in the “film” itself.

  • I understand why you’re cutting the sister mention as the subplot doesn’t appear to be going anywhere at all this season and if it does pick up in season 2 the flashbacks can always be incorporated there. The problem is that in this opening scene in the bar, there’s clearly missing a transition. It goes from the two officers grousing at Cassian/cut to him walking outside once more. Viewers who watched it know that the woman comes back and tells him the non-info about his sister. But non-viewers are left with… well, nothing. Like I said without anything there it just feels like it’s missing something. I dunno if you can have the woman walking back to him, an implication that something happens with her, I don’t know. It’s just very obvious something is cut there.

  • Cutting most of the young Cassian flashbacks? THANK YOU.

I still have more, but so far, it’s incredibly seamless other than that one section there. It just feels like I’m watching a movie. I’m almost an hour into it, and it’s just excellently done. You are so very good at this.

Thanks Arabian.

The crawl is a bit of a placeholder at the moment. I want to stick to the classical 3 paragraph crawl, bit I agree that it needs more work.

The bar scene is the main issue given that I’ll be cutting the sister subplot.
What I’d love to do is edit it so that he goes into the bar looking for a “buyer”. It may be possible but I haven’t had a deep look into it. Once I go back to the finishing I’ll have a proper look at whether that’s possible.

The way I cut it in the Workprint was done to imply that he was there for pleasure, but once the security guards started to take an interest in him, he decided to leave. I agree that it’s not ideal.

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#1514453
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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szopman said:

So, I’ve checked the workprint and I must say - very good work.
I like how you cut a lot of boring stuff from eps 1-3. Personally, I’d cut even more, but still, good job. You left what needed to be left, you cut what bothered me the most. I like the structure, the pacing is great, looks like an actual movie.

Also, I’ve been following your fanedit career since the first trailer of your TCW movie edit and I have to say that you improved a lot in terms of pacing and removing stuff. I love your ‘Army of the Republic’ but I always skip the first 35min cause it’s mostly a boring filler that could and should have been cut. Now, I think you mastered the art of sacrificing some scenes for better pacing and more coherent movie structure.

Anyway, great job as always 😉
Tbh, I wait more for the 2nd movie, that part of the season was just so epic ❤️ Can’t wait to see how you will deal with those episodes;)

After seeing what you did with “Andor” I really hope one day you’ll improve Obi-wan for us 😉

Thanks so much for the input. It was really difficult deciding what to keep, particularly the Aldhani scenes. I’d love to have cut more but didn’t want to lose the character moments, particularly Nemik and Skeen.

Out of interest, did the Mon Mothma scenes work for you? I cut a lot out and moved up a couple of scenes from later episodes to tie them in better with the heist.

I’m currently working in a Workprint for episode 2. That’s a challenge with so many separate plots in play, and having all of Cyril’s Coruscant scenes to fit in!

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#1513980
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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szopman said:

I’d love to see your edit 😉 wouldnt miss it 😉

I agree that the first arc should be heavily cut.

EDIT
Since we currently have The Mando, TBOBB, Obi-wan (which I have no doubt one day you ll touch as well 😄), Andor and Ahsoka on the way; maybe you’d reconsider dropping the “episodic” style and try to make them all more like “A Star Wars Story”? Or just to skip “Episode” in the title and then Just leave SW logo there and the title 9f the movie?
It d be more consistent 8 think. Cause if u do a chronological order, you have Episodes 1-3, Solo, Obi-wan, Andor Episodes 1-X (3-4, I imagine), RO, Episodes 4-6,Mando EP 1-3,then probably Ahsoka Episode I (what if its only one and thats it?), then Eps 7-9.

I have considered losing the episode numbers, but I feel that with Mando and Andor having have 4+ movies, without the episode numbers it could get confusing. Kenobi (when completed) will just be Kenobi.

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#1513188
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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Having seen how season 1 plays out I have completed my first cut. Headline points of the edit are:

  1. Runtime 2h 57mins.
  2. Covers the first half of season 1 and a few scenes from episode 7 to tie up the immediate aftermath of the Aldanhi heist.
  3. Cassian’s sister plot has been removed.
  4. A couple of short flashbacks have been retained to explain how Clem and Marva came across Cassian.
  5. A lot of scenes have been cut to streamline the edit, and many of the retained scenes have been edited to speed them up and trim the fat.

I’m looking for a couple of viewers to give feedback on the first cut before locking it down and tightening uo some tricky music transitions. PM if interested.

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#1512358
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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Pafap said:

This is an absolute masterpiece. I really loved it. I never finished the series because of all the unnecessaries moments. Your edit made it perfect and I don’t feel like something is missing.

Thank you for your amazing job.

Thanks for your kind words. Feedback like this makes these projects worth the effort!

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#1511354
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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Here is a link to the first 30 minutes or so, to give an idea of what I’m aiming for. The audio has been edited too but some of the music transitions aren’t as tight as they will be for the final edit. The 30 minutes includes the opening logos and crawl, all of the episode 1 footage and the first few scenes from episode 2. I’m hoping to have the first 3 episodes put together by the end of the weekend.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15UOAlNEmVnpkQ3xGuLVFeGM7kz9CPjrQ

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#1511353
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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So whilst waiting for the next Mandoverse series, I’d thought I’d have a stab at the Andor series. I absolutely love this series as it is, but I think it will make for an epic movie series with some of the fat trimmed and the plot sped up.

My aim is to create 2 movies from season one (and then 2 or 3 from season 2). Its gonna really push things to condense season one down to 2 movies so the likely runtime for each will be approaching 3 hours. I considered making 3 movies, but the material doesn’t fit with a 3 movie structure. Unlike my Mando edits, the movies will have a new opening which will fit in better with the feel of the series.

We have a natural time jump in Cassian’s story between episodes 7 and 8 which will determine the content of the 2 movies.

Here is the artwork:

Here is the summary of the edit with a list of the changes. There were a lot, so minor changes have not been listed.

The edit is split into 3 acts.

  1. Moralana Murder & Escape from Ferrix
  2. Rebel Camp/Deedra’s Investgations/Mothma’s Plans
  3. Heist & Aftermath

The overall goals of the edit are:

  1. Use the classical 3 act structure, with a slower paced second act.
  2. Generally speed up the pacing. Achieved by cutting scenes that do not drive the plot forwards and editing individual scenes to remove excess dialogue.
  3. Remove the sister storyline.
  4. Minimise the use of Kenari flashbacks - those that remain are there to explain Cassian and Maarva’s relationship.
  5. Give Deedra and Mon Mothma’s arcs more focus and progression by altering the order of their scenes and using scenes from Episode 7.
  6. Reduce focus on Syril - his investigations have been removed, as have his scenes on Coruscant. His arc will be developed in Episode 2.
  7. Remove unneccesary profanity and suggested sex acts - not very Star Warsy!

Specific Changes

Opening (1 min)
Star Wars opening Logos.
Custom opening text sequence using Andor Logo with Main Theme and Pre-Mor Shakedown

Episode 1: (33mins cut to 18mins)
Trim Cassian walking sequence to the Leisure Zone.
Completely cut Brothel Scene by transitioning from Cassian Walking towards the Brothel to him walking away from Brothel.
Cut Corpos “what have you swam over” and “he’s not laughing now” - removes reference to the meeting in the brothel.
Shorten Drezzer begging lines - Cassian shoots him straight after “we had a misunderstanding”.
Add wipe between ship leaving Morlana and Ferrix.
Trim B2’s journey to Cassian including cutting the “dogs”.
Trim first flashback scene of ship crashing.
Edit B2’s lines so that only Brasso came by the house the previous night.
Edit and shorten the sequence of Cassian walking to meet Brasso.
Shorten Cassian’s description of his alibi to Brasso.
Cut Brasso’s elaboration of the nights events.
Cut Corporate Security Headquarters scene where Syril discusses the Murders with his superior - Cassian walks from Brasso into the Garage to meet Bix.
Shorten Cassian-Bix conversation to remove references to Cassian having the Starpath for a while, and references to Bix buying the Starpath.
Cut second flashback scene at the Kenari camp.
Cut scene of Syril looking for unauthorised ships - Cassian now walks out of the garage and runs into Nurchi.
Cut Tim following Bix to the communication tower.
Cut Syril talking to his analytics team.
Cut Peglar approaching the ship where Cassian is - shot cuts straight to a closeup of the ship.
Cut Peglar talking about yard rats.
Cut flashback scene of the group leaving the camp.
Use “The Cassian Way” to create music transition into episode 2.

Episode 2 (28mins to 19mins)
Cut Cassian telling Bix he will sell her the Starpath Unit.
Shorten Tim’s walk to the phone booth.
Cut scene where Syril and the Corpos receive the information about Cassian.
Cut scene where Bix goes to Tim’s house.
Cut Syril/Mosk scene - edit moves from Informant scene to Cassian in his ship/house.
Cut flashback scene and replace with heavily edited scene where the tribe leader is shot by one of the ship’s occupants.
Edit Luthen arrival scene to remove him looking at the Salyard.
Cut Cassian saying “That would be me” he now ignores Maria’s question about Kanari.
Cut Time grappler scene
Cut Bix/Tim morning scene
Cut Mosk talking about the territorial forum
Trim Syril’s speech aboard the ship to cut out the silences, awkwardness and clapping.
Cut Luthen scene on the hoverbus.

Episode 3 (34mins to 25mins)
Edit flashback scene of young Cassian entering the craft to speed up his arrival in the control room. Cut him destroying the equipment.
Cut Scene where Cassian tells Brasso that he is leaving.
Cut scene where Luthen exits the hoverbus.
Cut end of the Bix/Luthen scene “do you trust him?”
Shorten Corpo Tac-Pod approach.
Cut flashback scene where Maarva sedates Cassian.
Cut scene where Bix asks Tim about the stuff piled up in the alley.
Cut Luthen talking about 3 choices.
Reduce “banging” scenes.
Cut Cassian and Luthen talking about the Starpath as they escape the warehouse.
Cut Corpo talking to Maarva “why, what happens then?”
Cut Mosk “shit”.

Episode 4 (41mins to 34mins)
Remove Cassian looking for the Medpack to create tension before the hyperspace jump and provide a better transition from episode 3.
Cut some of Supervisor Grandi’s lines in the ISB briefing.
Cut Luthen “It will always be worth more to me”
Cut Andor looking at the Kyber Crystal
Insert establishing shot of Corporate security headquarter from the deleted episode 1 scene.
Cut Blevin’s line about the “full apex of incredulous disaster”
Cut the Vel/Cassian Aldhani exposition scene.
Cut Nemik/Skeen lookout scene.
Cut Vel “We’ve had a stroke of luck, he’s been able to fight his way free”
Cut Syril arriving on Coriscent.
Cut Cinta attending to Cassian’s wound.
Cut rest of the group questioning Vel about Cassian.
Cut servant from Mothma/Perrin scene.
Cut Perrin “must everything be boring and sad”.
Cut Skeen “no-one but us”.
Insert party scene at Mothma’s residence from Episode 7. Use shot of Tay Kolma from the trailer when he asks “what are you really doing” - looks so much better!
Swap Rebel campfire scene and ISB scenes around to give a spacer between Aldhani night and day scenes.
Remove Partagaz “officers like you” lines.

Episode 5 (37mins to 22mins)
Cut all Syril/Mother scenes.
Cut Skeen “I think she’s having second thoughts”
Cut Skeen talking about high stakes.
Cut Skeen talking about Vel and Cinta sharing a blanket.
Insert scene from Episode 7 where Deedra asks for a data search.
Cut Mothma/Perrin/Daughter scene.
Cut Cassian “you really don’t, do you”.
Cut Tamarind “why isn’t it in the manual”.
Cut Cassian “Its a custom job”.
Cut Scene where Tamarind explains the Imperial base layout to Cassian.
Cut scene with Gorn ordering the arch to be cleaned up.
Cut scene with Blevin on Ferrix
Cut Rebels marching training.
Cut Gorn/Corporal scene talking about imperial plans.
Cut scene at Rebel Camp where they are checking their equipment.
Insert ISB scene where Blevin accuses Deedra of misconduct. - scene is edited to shorten it. Cut Blevin “no sir, at risk of repetition you are correct”. Cut Partagaz “you think this forum appropriate”. Shorten Blevin’s explanation his accusation. Cut reference to Aldhani (since the test hasn’t happened yet). Cut Partagaz “thesis please”.

Episode 6 (43mins to 39mins)
Cut Nemik “I wrote about you last night”.
Cut Imperials drinking “coffee”
Cut scene where Skeen explains to Cassian that Tamarind was a stormtrooper
Cut Imperial urinating next to Vel/Cinta.
Cut Commandant dressing scene
Cut some Dhani walking scenes to speed up the journey to the arch.
Cut Nemick “you were right, I’m not tired at all”
Cut Gorn “I want eyes shut and mouths open”
Cut Imperial Engineer smelling the goat hide.
Cut Imperials running across the dam.
Cut Imperials discussing the comm outage.
Cut some of the Dhani singing.
Cut light going off as Gorn descends into the vault.
Cut Imperials descending onto the vault.
Cut Vel “you disgusting bastard”
Move ISB response scene forwards to act as a spacer between the rebels setting off for, and arriving at the doctor’s location.

Episode 7 (42mins to 19mins)
2 scenes used earlier in the edit.
Admiral Yalaren scene used.
Cinta scene uncovering the speeder.
Luthen and Mon Mothma scene used. - Cut reference to Mothma’s future meeting because its already happened.

Episode 2 will then be:

  1. Everyone is looking for Cassian - plus Cassian’s arrest.

  2. Prison Break

  3. Whatever the finale is……

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#1511346
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Mando EP3: A New Path (A Book of Boba Fett Edit) [RELEASED]
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Warhorn said:

This film is not only very well edited, but also, for me, it fixes the biggest mistake that Boba Fett and his Din and Grogu-centric chapters had: making them meet again without generating a tension that gives weight to the reunion. If in the middle of the series of another character you introduce as a secondary plot what is the main one of another, it feels strange. However in your films, taking that reunion to the end of a third film without Grogu appearing until then, you feel that in relation to the previous ones there is a weight and a burden for the separation. It feels that the protagonist is Mando, the plot is dilated and the ending works better. Anyway, you have made my new canon of how I am going to see these series (single episodes that shine apart).

The audio mix in this one works perfectly for me, I don’t notice any difference with the Disney + versions and the transitions between plots are smooth and elegant.

Thanks Warhorn. I think most people found the Grogu-Mando reunion odd, and it is probably the only misstep so far in Mandy’s story. What I ultimately want to do is move the reunion to the start of the next Movie, but that will depend on what Season 3 entails.

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#1510974
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Mando EP2: Search for the Jedi [V2 RELEASED]
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Warhorn said:

Spectacular! I would say that it even has a better rhythm than the first, and although the changes have hurt me more in this one (I love episode 7 of the second season), seeing it I understand that it is impossible to integrate the story in another way. I loved the way of integrating the Boba Fett plot, it feels completely organic knowing the nature of the third part (which I haven’t been able to see yet, but I’m looking forward to it).

The only problem I have noticed is the sound. In the parts with music it is more noticeable: it is as if it had applied a noise reducer that distorts the general loudness. These days I have been putting the film in Premiere to change some parts with music because otherwise it seems to me a fantastic film.

Congratulations, another great job. 😉

This was a lot more of a struggle to edit into a movie. There was a lot I would have liked to have included, but for time and structural reasons had to be cut. The Ahsoka/Mando team up, episode 6 and episode 4 have some really great moments.

In terms of the sound issues, I have watched it back a few times and didn’t pick up on anything. We’re there any specific time stamps where it’s a problem?

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#1510973
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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Warhorn said:

Amazing job. I have enjoyed every minute of the movie and I feel that all the omissions and changes regarding the chapters are very well done. The editing work in dialogues, the rearrangement of scenes, the use of music, the way of spinning the chapters… I sweat thinking about doing it. As a Star Wars standalone this would be a blast. Congratulations, it is a 100% enjoyable movie.

Thanks for the feedback. Season 1 is definitely the most conducive to making a feature length movie and the end result is a pretty satisfying 3-act edit.

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#1508810
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Mando EP2: Search for the Jedi [V2 RELEASED]
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darthrush said:

Have you considered incorporating Shamook’s redone VFX of Luke’s first entrance in the Mandalorian Season 2 Finale? Some shots don’t look good as far as the mouth movements go but I believe I using a few re-done Shamook shots could really help bridge the Luke we see in the Mandalorian with the more realistic Luke seen in the Book of Boba Fett?

I considered it but couldn’t find an adequate quality version.

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#1507313
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Mando EP2: Search for the Jedi [V2 RELEASED]
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Version 3 now completed and available as 1080.mov, mkv and Blu-ray.

In the end I didn’t re-instate the battle at the Corvus fortress. It never felt a necessary part of the story and details the plot. The movie runs so much better without it.

Instead I’ll slightly alter the Mando-Armourer dialogue in EP3 regarding the beskar spear. It doesn’t need to have come from a Jedi.

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#1505575
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The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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So after a week of trying to sort out the rendering issue I’ve had to come up with a very unsatisfactory workaround of rendering the project in two halves and then reimporting them to FCP and rendering that.

Anyway, the 1080 is done and is uploading to Google Drive, so will be available once its been processed, which usually takes 24 hours!

Then I’ll sort the BR render.

Here is the new artwork and updated chapter list.