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- The New Republic EP1: A Vergence in the Force 4K (The Mandalorian Season 1 Edit) [V4 RELEASED]
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I would love to see both movies. Loved Andor the series, this would be easier to get my wife to watch all the way through. Loving the Mando Vergence BTW.
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That’s fair! Are you sold on the one movie per season approach? It feels like there’s a natural breakpoint at S01E09, and again at S02E08, if you needed to conclude movies there. That might give you four movies of around ~1h40-2h and capture some of the content that’s relevant to other media (such as Cham Syndulla on Ryloth for TCW and Rebels). I put some analysis on this idea in Acbagel’s Bad Batch thread if you’re interested. You do you though - the show will certainly do well from tightening either way!
Yeah, I’m sticking to one movie person season. 2h50 is pushing it, but its in line with my other edit lengths. I agree that the seasons split in half quite well, however, I don’t feel there is enough quality material in each half to warrant a separate movie. Ryloth, for example, adds very little other than familiar character cameos.
The first half of season 2 was pretty weak, so I can pretty much eliminate all of it other than Crosshair’s introduction. That will allow me to focus on the clone storyline from the second half.
Sounds like good fun! Looks like you’re not including any content from 11/12 (the Ryloth two-parter) - are you skipping the character of Howzer then? And cutting having Rampart assign Crosshair to hunt the Batch down (as seen in the finale)?
No Ryloth footage at all, so Howzer and the Crosshair/Rampart scene has been cut.
The absence of that scene isn’t really an issue. We already know that Crosshair is hunting down the batch from the Bracca confrontation, and actually him appearing suddenly on the shuttle transporting Hunter works very well.
Here are a few clips to share:
First is the opening scene with the crawl, rebuilt audio from the opening shots and adjusted Celeb audio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6zSztZp6MA
Second up shows how the Kamino training sequence has been removed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3lfiz1RKOc
The third shows the transition of scenes between Aftermath and Replacements and shows the use of AI to alter the Batch dialogue so that they head straight for Cid’s Bar on Ord Mantel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNcKfVhdznM
Finally the sequence combining the Batch meeting Cid and Rex in the same scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKgWjWSUC-k
So I have been debating for a while whether to do a Movie series of the Bad Batch, similar to what I did for the Clone Wars back in the day. I originally didn’t want to get back into the animated shows with so much live action going on at the moment. However, a number of things have changed my mind.
They have made the characters far more engaging than the caricatures that appeared in the final season of The Clone Wars, with the addition of Omega who is a delight.
There is some terrific content in this show that fleshes out the Dark Times era.
The first 2 seasons can each be condensed into one 3-ish hour movie.
There is a core storyline that provides the spine of the show.
There are only going to be 3 seasons, so it opens things up for an epic movie trilogy.
Episode 1:
Running Time: 2h 49mins
Disney/Lucasfilm Animation logo with Fox Fanfare
Classic Star Wars Crawl
Pan down to planetary shot of Kaller
Aftermath
Rebuilt audio for opening battle shots to remove narration and music, scored with “Droids Approaching” from Clone Wars Series 7 Bad Batch arc.
Altered pitch of Caleb’s voice to better match his age.
Cut battle droid “Hold your positions……”
Cut slapstick battle droid tank pilot.
Cut cross fade to black at end of Kaller sequence. Replaced with Iris wipe.
Cut Wrecker/Tech/Echo conversation about returning home.
Cur Clearance code scene.
Remove wipe leading to Batch entering their Barracks.
Split first Tarkin scene and move his arrival to immediately after the Emperor’s Message.
Cut Omega reciting the Bad Batch’s names…. Caleb already did this in the opening sequence.
Remove wipe between Tarkin scene and Canteen scene.
Cut Wrecker’s groan and Omega “from the corridor” when Omega approaches the Batch in the canteen.
Cut Wrecker “I like this kid” - he already did this with Caleb.
Inserted a flashback scene between Echo being knocked out and waking up in the medical bay. The flashback is made from clips of the Bad Batch arc from the clone wars to show Echo’s resurrection backstory.
Wipe transition from medical bay to Tarkin discussing clones in the cloning facility (this scene has been move forwards) as I’ve cut the battle simulation scene. His closing remarks about seeing how loyal the Batch is provides a reason for him appearing at their Barracks.
Cut entire battle simulation scene.
Cut to a restructured Batch-Shocktrooper corridor scene discussing the Battle simulation: Cut references to the training facility and battle simulation. AI used to add in Hunter “we’re going to see the prime minister". Rebuilt background audio and extended score using “Battle Simulation”. The scene ends with the Batch being sent to suit up for a mission. Wipe to external shot of Kamino and cut to the Tarkin standing in the doorway at the Batch’s barracks.
Cut Hunter “didn’t have much choice” as it doesn’t make sense with the simulation removed.
Cut Wrecker talking about and loading explosives onto the ship.
Trim Batch approach to Onderon camp.
Small trims made to camp scene including some unnecessary dialogue.
Cut Batch walking back to their ship by using wipe transition.
Trim batch walking across Kamino platform and cut talk about “sticking to the plan”.
Cut Crosshair’s outburst at Hunter in the Cell.
Trim Omega-Crosshair interaction.
Edit escape sequence so that it only takes one punch from Wrecker to make a hole.
Cut accidental noise Omega makes in the shaft and Wrecker’s terrible cover-up attempt. Omega simply hits the vent and falls on top of the clones.
Remove wipe as the Batch enter the Hangar.
Cut Crosshair “You never could see the bigger picture”.
Cut chat between Hunter and Crosshair about disobeying orders.
Trim the silent Hunter-Crosshair standoff.
Trim Omega staring into space from the Cockpit.
Use AI voice creation to alter scene where the Batch talk about their next destination so that they head straight for Cid’s. Scene now plays out as “Set course for Ord Mantell”, “Cid’s place?”, “Echo knows a guy”.
Cut and Run/Replacements/Rampage
The Crosshair storyline from Replacements is used to give him a presence in the middle act, to keep the crucial Onderon scenes and provide spacer scenes for the Batch’s story.
Cut from the Batch entering hyperspace to Crosshair in the medical bay. Remove him telling AZ to go away and cut to Tarkin and Rampart talking about the new recruits.
Cut from Crosshair standing up to the Batch in hyperspace. Use the scene from Cut and Run of Omega and Wrecker sleeping whilst Hunter and Echo discuss Omega. Audio rebuilt and scored with raising kids to give better music transition.
Cut to Replacements scene where Crosshair is introduced to his new squad.
Cut to Replacements scene of Hunter handing out rations to Omega and Wrecker. Move Omega sitting down with her food to the end of the scene to provide a better shot to transition from.
Cut to Replacements scene where Tarkin and Rampart decide to send the new squad to Onderon.
Cut to Rampage scene of the Batch in hyperspace and where Omega is given her com link. Cut chat about why the Batch are going to Ord Mantel.
Use Rampage sequence of Batch arriving on Ord Mantell and entering Cid’s, with addition of 2 shots from Battle Scars of a hooded Rex sitting in the background. The second shot is used as a spacer between the long headshot of Cid and the Batch entering her office.
Battle Scars/Replacements
The Edit is constructed so that the Scenes in Cid’s from Rampage and Battle Scars merge into one with the Batch entering looking for Cid and finding Rex.
Rex being approached by the Ithorian provides a spacer scene between the Cid’s office scene from Rampage and Cid’s office scene from Battle scars. References to the tactical droid mission are removed. Shots edited so that you don’t notice that Omega and Wrecker are missing from Cid’s office in Battle scars.
As the Batch run into the Bar to find the source of the blaster fire, a clip of Omega and Wrecker running up the stairs is added to explain their absence from Rex’s introduction scene with addition of Wrecker shouting “Hey” isolated from Clone Wars arc.
Reference to Trace and Rafa removed.
AI used to alter Rex’s dialogue to “I thought I’d find you here” and “it looks like you’re travelling with a kid"
As Rex says “I’ll be in touch” we cut to the Replacements scene of the Clone Squad approaching Onderon. The Onderon sequence is edited into a single scene.
Cut trooper “for now, we’ll see how things shake out”.
Remove gap between Onderon rebel saying “alert the others” to the Clone squad firing.
Cut to the batch approaching Bracca
Trim approach to the landing point.
Trim Batch walking across the wreckage.
Cut creature attack
Trim sequence where an activated Wrecker is hunting for Omega.
When Rex stuns Wrecker wipe transition to Replacements scene of Clone squad returning to Kamino. Cut straight to Crosshair’s squad returning to their Barracks. Cut from wide shot of Crosshair to Rex and the Batch on the cruiser.
Trim end of the scene so it ends on Omega, not Wrecker.
Wipe transition to Replacements scene of Kaminoans talking about a contingency plan.
Cut back to Rex and the Batch on the cruiser.
Cut Omega “he’s awake”
Cut Omega giving Wrecker the Mantell mix and talking about tradition.
Reunion
Cut from the Scrappers discovering the Batch to Crosshair reporting their discovery to Rampart. - there is just a 5 minute gap between the last Crosshair scene from Replacements to this scene, so Crosshair’s presence throughout this edit is maintained with no significant gaps.
Remove Wrecker teaching Omega how to disarm explosives.
Remove the Scrapper Battle and references to the scrappers thereafter.
The Edit cuts from the Crosshair/Rampart scene to a wide shot of Bracca with Echo “Rex told us about the scrappers on Bracca”, thus removing the Batch handling the scrapper bodies.
Cut to the Batch discussing plundering the ship.
Cut Echo referencing the Dianoga.
Cut reference to owing Cid.
Remove the entire Batch/Crosshair confrontation. The batch now head straight for the Ion Chamber.
The 3 scenes of the Batch walking though the chamber are edited together into a continuous sequence. Omega talking about not being in an ion engine before is cut.
Cut Wrecker talking about plan 7.
Cut Crosshair “I told you before” - the “before has been cut”
Cut Omega “he’s a bounty hunter” and Bane “kid’s got it all figured out”.
Trim Hunter/Bane standoff.
Cut Todo disarming Omega.
Cut black screen preceding hunter POV shot.
Bounty Lost
Cut from Hunter telling the Batch that Omega was taken by a bounty hunter to Bane’s ship in hyperspace and then Bane reporting to the Kaminoans.
The chase scene between the Batch and the Empire on Bracca has been removed.
Cut Lama Su “abandoned” when talking about the secret facility. - not knowing its abandoned creates more tension.
Cut to Omega in the cell. Todo is edited out so that she just interacts with Bane.
Cut to the Batch discussing how to find Omega. References to the Bounty hunter on Pantora are cut.
The entire Omega escape sequence has been removed.
The next scene is Bane arriving at the facility. The ship approach shots are edited together. We don’t see the ship land in the series so this is masked by inserting a shot of Omega waking up in her cell with ship landing effects added. The scene ends with Bane exiting the cockpit.
Cut to next scene of the Batch in space. Omega’s distress call is removed to create a short scene to show that they are still looking for her. This acts as a spacer scene, allowing time for Bane to get Omega off his ship and onto the facility.
Cut to Bane pulling Omega through the facility.
Cut Fennec “Omega and I go way back”.
Edit Omega’s call for help by inserting the Batch receiving Omega’s initial transmission (which had been cut). Weird Creatures track used to provide continuity for the score.
Cut Todo talking to Bane about recovering the target.
Cut Omega mentioning Pantora.
Trim Omega descending the ladders.
Cut Todo attacking and pursuing Omega.
Cut Bane flopping back onto the facility platform.
Trim Omega escaping in the pod to tighten the pacing. Use track “Target is getting away” to smooth the score between cut scenes.
Move scenes around so that The Shand-Lamau Su scene is the last scene from this episode to provide a bridge between Batch scenes from Bounty Lost and War Mantle.
Alter Shand dialogue to remove reference to Pantora. Use dialogue from Ep4 Cornered “The target got away, but I’ll find her”.
War Mantle
As far as the edit is concerned this episode is an unnecessary detour and functions solely for Hunter’s capture so it has been stripped back to a minimum.
Gregor’s capture has been removed.
Cut references to a mission for Cid and getting paid.
Trim journey up the mountain.
Cut the Batch talking about abandoning the mission.
Cut Omega and Wrecker playing a board game.
Cut Hunter explaining that Wrecker and Omega are their backup.
Cut Gregor “insubordinate pleb”
Trim batch and Gregor creeping around the base.
Cut Batch going up in the lift.
Cut Gregor talking about desertion.
Cut Gonky to the rescue.
Cut Hunter-Crosshair scene - the scene in Return to Kamino is enough.
Return to Kamino
Wipe transition from Lama Su being reprimanded to Crosshair’s shuttle in hyperspace.
Cut Rampart’s reference to Ryloth.
Trim Batch’s journey on underwater tube system.
Cut Crosshair telling his squad to stand down.
Cut “a long time ago” when Crosshair is talking about having his chip removed.
Kamino Lost
Sequence where Crosshair and Omega are trapped is removed. Accomplished by cutting 2 separate scenes of the Batch falling through the wreckage into one sequence. Clone confirming to rampart that the cities have been destroyed is moved to the end of that sequence.
Underwater creature attack sequence is removed.
Change Hunter line to Crosshair “she saved your life ”to she’s a clone like us” - the sequence where Omega saves Crosshair has been removed.
Imperial base scene moved to sit between the night shot of the Batch in the water and the daytime shot - provides a spacer sequence and allows the movie to end on the Batch.
Iris out to end credits and Star Wars theme.
Episode 2 (Running Time 2h 37mins)
Act 1 (62 mins)
Act 2: (55 mins)
Act 3: (40mins)
Hey! @smudger9 im also interested in the Mando Edits and the Andors! Thanks for the work you do for the community!
Thanks! PM sent.
Your trailer for this project looks very promising! I would love to get a link to the fan edit for all 4 episodes and the two Andors too.
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It’s certainly a very ambitious plan and works very well as story. The battle will be getting it to work on screen well enough for it not to be a distraction. It’ll also be a challenge to keep the small story beats from season 3 such as Din’s moments teaching Grogu.
I don’t have any experience with special effects so I couldn’t even contemplate this level of change. I’m intrigued to see how well you can pull it off. Good luck!
Hi man, thanks for the link. This cut was more enjoyable than the actual season for sure. A few things i’d like to insert as feedback would be that it’s sad that you cut the Zeb scene in the New Republic pilot bar. It was one of the few enjoyable moments in the show on it’s own.
Cutting all the Pershingstuff was fine. I hated that sidetrack. Also Favreau says 2 years passed so how would the fact that Gideon escaped be unknown for that long. I agree that you cut that line from the pilot saying “i knew he din’t make it to trial.”
Then also i think it’s a bit strange to have the Shadowcouncil so early in the movie because there is no indication yet that mandalorians will take back their planet. Later you have the scene of the spy telling gideon about mandalorians and Gideon is all surprised about it. It doesn’t seem right to me.
Lastly i would say it would be better to cut Bo Katan saving Din’s behind the first time. Can’t cut the second time because that’s when she sees the Mythosaur offcourse and when he is redeemed to come back to the covert. And also when she is fighting the other blue mandalorian dude for taking control of her Deathwatch AGAIN, that could be cut alltogether. I don’t like Bo Katan femi-force pushing the Mando out of his own show all the time like that.
Other than that it’s much more watchable than having to go through the entire season again haha.
I’m glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the feedback.
The New Republic Bar scene is in the edit at 1h 1min.
I agree with your point about the Shadow Council scene being slightly at odds with the parallel Mandalorian plot. However, in a movie you don’t wait until the final act to introduce your protagonist, so I felt that the Gideon plot needed to be moved forwards. It also provides spacer scenes for Din’s plot and without them the edit would be Din moving from planet to planet via a series of wipes. As I’ve edited it, the discovery of Gideon’s Republic transport is moved into the first act, so moving the Shadow council forwards provides a link to that scene. His request for more interceptors and bombers then pays off with the destruction of Bo’s Castle. The way the TV series is ordered its unclear to the audience where those TIEs have come from, by moving the Shadow council scene before the castle destruction, its clear that Gideon is behind it.
I guess Gideon’s reference to Mandalorians in that scene can be put down to him either lying to get additional resources, or him knowing that at some point the Mandalorians will mount an attack (which is how the series plays out).
As for Bo’s first rescue scene, that really can’t be cut because its the reason she ends up on Mandalore to show Din the living waters, and her defeating Axe Waves to take control of her clan is a crucial plot point. However its edited, Bo is the co-lead in season 3.
Hi! I just made an account for your edit! 😃
Can you provide me a link of Mando S3 EDIT? And now that i’m here can i also get links for your Andor Edits? Maybe your editting skills will get me to like Andor afterall! Thanks in advance
Welcome to the forums! The main criticism of Andor was its slow pacing, which I’ve (hopefully) rectified with these edits. I’ve PM’d you the links to these and my Mandalorian edits.
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/eddiedean-wins-march-2023-feotm/
Congrats Eddie 👏
I’m tempted to ask for a link, but I kinda want to wait for your redux versions of Episodes 2 & 3 before getting into 4. Though, maybe I can just get the link now & not worry about downloading three big files later.
I’ve sent you the link. It may be a month or so before I finish the EP 2 and 3 changes.
I’ve been hearing about this edit for weeks now, it sounds fantastic! how can I go about getting a link?
Hi there. I’ve sent you links to both movies. Hope you enjoy them.
I’ve just finished watching this edit, and I’ll admit the climax had me a little misty eyed (that didn’t happen when I watched the original Season 3). Thank you so much, you’ve really created a magnificent and seamless well-paced movie out of something that was previously rather overlong, unfocused and clunky.
You’ve got a great sense for editing, and the only notes I’d have would be to perhaps consider removing the somewhat redundant conversation between Peli and the Rodian (just cut straight to Mando touching down in the hangar) and as others have said to clean up the technical issue with the crawl background.
Every choice you’ve made has worked in this edit, and I watched it with my wife (who hadn’t seen any of Season 3) and it completely worked for her too. You would not know this was a fanedit.
(And you were right about the comedic transition with Grogu’s ‘yes, yes, yes’ into the campfire scene too - very effective!).
100% recommend - to anyone who was a little disappointed about The Mandalorian Season 3’s dip in quality, smudger9 has redeemed it - you need to watch this!
Thanks so much for the feedback Matt. Much appreciated. It makes it all worth while when other fans enjoy these edits.
The crawl background glitch will be rectified, I’m just waiting to see if anyone picks up any other technical issues before re-rendering and uploading.
Regarding the Rhodian-Pelli conversation, yes it’s completely redundant but it’s there for 2 reasons.
I really like having spacer scenes to imply time passage and avoid having excessive wipe transitions. I didn’t want to cut straight from Mando in hyperspace to him arriving on Tatooine.
It’s a nice reintroduction to Pelli, and we can see that she’s still up to her old tricks.
I did trim the scene, leaving the minimum that I could get away with.
Another superb job on this edit, I think it’s pretty much the best possible version of season three- all the best bits & main plot threads included without any of the cringe. Technically flawless as usual, except the minor issue with the crawl background identified by WitchDR. Will this be fixable?
Thanks for the feedback. I’m glad you appreciated the edit.
Yes, the crawl is fixable just by adjusting the brightness and contrast of the two backgrounds.
Smudger, can I get a link … .always love your stuff.
Of course! DM sent.
I just finished watching this edit and as I have come to expect from Smudger’s work, am very impressed. I don’t really have anything to add that hasn’t already been mentioned in the thread. I very much enjoy the flow of the narrative, and am very thankful for how much time, effort and creativity you put into your work. I am looking forward to seeing how all of the edits evolve as more content is added. On a slightly different topic, I know in the past you have said you don’t want to revisit your Clone Wars edits, and I am sure you are tired of the question. However, with you dipping your metaphorical toe back into animated editing with the Bad Batch, has your position softened on this? I know I and many others would love to see your completed vision for that series. I do understand that BB is a much less onerous lift than CW but I can’t help but hold out hope! Regardless, thank you for this edit and for your willingness to share. Looking forward to Episode IV!
Thanks so much for the review. I often think about revisiting Clone Wars especially seasons 6 and 7, but sadly time is always the limiter. I’m just about keeping up with the live action releases…
If you wanted to collaborate on more moviefied Clone Wars I’d be down… I’ve put a LOT of thought into them 😉
I bet you have! I have two half-finished episodes… one for season 6 and one for season 7, but I doubt I’ll have time Eddie TBH.
I just finished watching this edit and as I have come to expect from Smudger’s work, am very impressed. I don’t really have anything to add that hasn’t already been mentioned in the thread. I very much enjoy the flow of the narrative, and am very thankful for how much time, effort and creativity you put into your work. I am looking forward to seeing how all of the edits evolve as more content is added. On a slightly different topic, I know in the past you have said you don’t want to revisit your Clone Wars edits, and I am sure you are tired of the question. However, with you dipping your metaphorical toe back into animated editing with the Bad Batch, has your position softened on this? I know I and many others would love to see your completed vision for that series. I do understand that BB is a much less onerous lift than CW but I can’t help but hold out hope! Regardless, thank you for this edit and for your willingness to share. Looking forward to Episode IV!
Thanks so much for the review. I often think about revisiting Clone Wars especially seasons 6 and 7, but sadly time is always the limiter. I’m just about keeping up with the live action releases…
Having completed episode 4, I’m now starting to tinker with episodes 2 and 3. This is only a very minor change where I’ve used dialogue from season 3 to explain where Mando got the beskar spear.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12PGGuT8DevdIMcntrhS9w6j8gbDOfbQy
Sounds great, I’d love to have a download link?
(although bit sad you cut the comedy bit with Grogu stuffing his face with food at the market stall, I loved that little moment!)
PM sent. That was a nice comedy moment, but with a running time of 2h45, some sacrifices had to be made. And I actually feel that the “yes, yes, yes…” is the funniest and the wipe transition from that to the campfire worked really well.
Nice, I’ll look forward to seeing that new transition.
This might be a dumb question but downloading to USB and watching this on a big 4K screen, which of the two file options will be best? (the 10GB MP4 or the 5GB MKV)?
In their native form the 1080. If you want to view the 4K you’ll need to convert it into an MP4.
Hey! I’d love a link for this as well. Thanks.
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Sounds great, I’d love to have a download link?
(although bit sad you cut the comedy bit with Grogu stuffing his face with food at the market stall, I loved that little moment!)
PM sent. That was a nice comedy moment, but with a running time of 2h45, some sacrifices had to be made. And I actually feel that the “yes, yes, yes…” is the funniest and the wipe transition from that to the campfire worked really well.