Hayden Christensen in Star Wars obviously.
Jar Jar Binks.
Short round and Willie in temple of doom, turning Sallah into a racist caricature in last crusade and making brody a moron.
Mac in Crystal Skull.
Giving too much freedom to Patrick Stewart and that Data actor on the star trek next generation movies led to crap like Nemesis.
I think they look too modern, and newer in tech than the oot.
When the designs should look older than the other movies not newer.
Also bringing back the Joe Johnston, Ralph Mcquarrie designs would have helped.
Again they look too clean and sterile and not lived in or universe once used like the oot. Even the props and costumes in the oot had meticulous aging done to them to give them a real world feel, also real sets and models and locations/stuntwork instead of cgi helps too.
Some of these have an excessive amount of grain that would not be on the original camera negative. Wonder if they used the same internegative as the 70mm film cels.
Wonder how much color is left in the altered o-neg if it was unearthed again today and checked to see.
We all know the opticals were replaced by either duplicate pieces or were recomped digitally because the cri stock was shit and no longer useable.
And other portions of the live action had to be replaced in sections too damaged. At least according to kurtz.
It is true Lucas saved most of the film pieces that makeup the final composite shots, but if the original effects are truly lost because of the unstable unusable filmstock what we really have is a recreation and not a restoration situation.
Whether or not you use an old school optical printer or new computer one is still being done again its not the theatrical effects. They are forever lost or are on 3rd generation film prints that are faded. Unless you could use the technicolor print for star wars and we have been stold that cannot be a source.
I was always disappointed that they could not afford Mark Hamill for return of the jedi radio drama.
Or that he was too busy.
It would also have been cool if time warner got him to do dark empire instead of the guy who later played Canderous in kotor.
Johnny Ringo said:
I've been keeping an eye on the Star Trek ongoing series and i dig the style but i'm not that interested if they continue to adapt original series episodes.
What's the point of rebooting the saga if you're just going to tell the same stories again?
I hope they'll go in a more interesting direction with it.
They went out of the way to throw continuity out in the star trek 2009 film yet still wanted it connected to the prime universe by having old spock. Big mistake imho, yet without Nimoy and Urban that film would be total shit.
I hope the rumors of star trek 12 or 2 as they are calling it are false. A rebooted wrath of khan sounds like a terrible idea. How many times do they have to rehash that film they already did it with nemesis and then with trek 2009.
I would rather have them do dark and totally badass warrior Klingons, not the nice next gen guys like Worf.
Lawrence Kasdan's Screenplay.
Not written by Luca$ also written by the same genius as Raiders the only good indiana jones movie.
Didn't Pauline Kael who hated star wars give empire a grudgingly positive review?
Goldeneye and Tomorrow never dies would be welcome preservation the new dts mixes on the ultimate edition DVD's are not the theatrical mixes obviously.
Unless they lied about doing brand new mixes at DTS digital.
Since i cannot compare the audio of both would be interesting if someone did.
Robotech the movie never got a wide release.
A Few showings hardly counts as a failed movie. Especially since they never even bothered to advertise the movie really.
I have never even seen prints of the film show up it is such an obscure item.
A bootleg VHS tape of the british or canadian broadcasts exist, but in PAL.
A VHS screener also is on the web illicitly.
Is the Jaws super 8 monaural sound?
I would think it would be.
Not sure if Jaws had a mono mix. Not a Jaws super fan but it is one of my favorite other Spielberg films along with Duel.
Maybe someday someone will also do the Raiders super8 digest as well.
russs15 said:
I have found a few more "quirks" with various videos in my PAL VHS collection. Here are the old and new ones along with a few screenshots to show what I have found.
1 Wrong audio
The 1987, 1988 and 1989 Fullscreen versions of ANH do not have the Threepio tractor beam line so therefore do not have the recognised 1985 Ben Burtt remix sound track.
How can something be wrong audio if it is the 1977 strereo 35mm mix?
If anything its the 85 that is wrong audio.
Mallwalker ouch on that clearly laserrotted image of the standard play star wars.
She was also a mother.
To kill someone over children's toys.
Someone you took a vow to cherish and protect.
Does the UK have the death penalty?
They did a simple 4k scan of the nitrate negative. They did no cleanup work and no 8k as for other films that they have done.
It was simply a way to preserve the negative so when it goes bye bye like steamboat willie at least they have the digital files.
Puggo is the man. Cannot wait to see any of his up and coming projects.
In Lowry's defense the final color grading was done before it was sent to them and fucked up by Lucas. They were only given a 1080P master to work with its hard to recover detail that is not there, especially when you dvnr the hell out of a 1080 scan. That was not even state of the art in 2004, despite the bs claims of the Lucas folks during the hype of the BD release.
Try that would have been state of the art circa 2001.
And would have been excusable for the dvd format because the sins of the dvnr would not show as bad. To use that same master for the blu rays and not do a new 4k or 8k scan is laughable to say the least.
Wow the 2-D trailer for the 3-D version of menace is desaturated to all hell and has very bad dvnr like the blu ray.
If this is the final color grading its an absolute fail of epic proportions.
I really hope this crap was outsourced and not in house by ILM, because the quality is absolute shit.
Captain America the First Avenger and X-men first Class.
Neither impressed me.
I give first class 3 stars . I give Cap a 2 star rating pretty good flick but the ending stinks.
He does have a son, his name is Jett.
Looks like its Katie who will inherit the family business and not his son though.
Unless sometime he takes up directing but i doubt he will.
Looks like a professional cover and far better than the most recent Lucasfilm cover art like the BD Release of the 6 movies.
I always wondred what happened to these shows original negatives after they closed down and were unsuccessful.
Did Lucasfilm recover them or were they thrown in the dumpster/destroyed?
The theatrical cut of the phantom menace on the japan laserdisc, i know how much people hate the prequels and i am no exception. But a nice Laserdisc capture instead of a recreation would be a good preservation.
Especially for the full bitrate pcm stereo audio.
The special edition 1997 discs with full bitrate PCM would also be nice as niether of these NTSC discs has been done with an anamorphic conversion as well as ivtc. Proper DVD frame speed Etc.
What has been done is captures of the AC3, In Adywan's reconstruction of phantom menace, and in the case of the special editions i believe Darth Editous, and some others have captured those.
I believe that year one had a huge influence on Batman Begins.
Now i know in Dark Knight Rises he probably is not going to do the Frank Miller Catwoman as a prostitute thing, but you can definitely see the infuence in begins.
I have been waiting for an X-men reboot as well as a Fantastic four one.
First Class is a great film but no Cyclops wtf?
They should have called it something else because it was nothing like the first class comic which was very much a nod to Jack Kirby.
Original iceman design, Marvel Girl aka Jean Grey, Cyclops etc.
The retro look of that comic with it sixties deigned comic style but better modern color reproduction and paper was a welcome thing at least to me with the zillion and one different new looks and continuities that followed the original.
TKF821 said:
TServo2049 said:
TKF821 said:
P.S. : I own super-8 copies of the three original Star Wars movies (not 16mm). They are in English, widescreen, and stereo : no special editions, no additional FX or scenes. Just the original as we watched them back in the 70s and 80s.
Wow, you mean you have the Derann scope Super-8's? :-O That's awesome.
Derann released a super-8 copy of Star Wars in scope, and this is the one I own. But Empire and Jedi are copies that I found in Germany from an unknown source.
I don't think Derann ever issued copies of those two last movies.
Derann did release Jedi and the quality was spectacular from reviews i have read. The audio was folded down to monaural but some folks rerecorded it in stereo. I once did not bid on a print because of this reason as i wanted the theatrical audio and not audio replaced from the laserdisc.
The classic home cinema release was from a 35mm release print and had print damage.
Derann had two releases of star wars or two batches from the negative the second batch was not as good as the negative by then was in poor shape, after that batch the neg broke so they could make no more copies.
It also was the theatrical except for the episode IV redone title scroll.
I have heard of fans splicing in the 77 crawl onto the numerous 80's 35mm re-release prints.
Sometimes onto a Eastman LPP low fade copy which is very rare, but the title scroll was from a pre LPP source and was faded to reddish pinkish tint.
Imagine vandalizing a perfect copy print only to remove the Lucas addition, but fans would do this for the 77 experience. But doing so devalued the resale value of their print,lol.
Sounds to me from what Mike is talking about is that this is a hobby that means a lot to him personally yet it is not of any importance in the real world.
If he works in an official capacity as a composer than his credentials are not in film restoration and preservation.
He is no Robert Harris and he does not have access to the negative in the Lucasfilm archives.
He does not have the raw stock and select takes, the IN or IP, the sep masters etc.
Nor is it in any way possible he has access to a pristine technicolor print that has been screened not that many times like GL archival copy.
Great as the technicolor prints look when screened they are not a good source for a restoration, though i am sure others as well as myself would not mind a BD scan of the Technicolor print.
It would not be what you would use for a restoration, except maybe color reference? A restoration would mean having the oot in exhibition form for generations to come.
Not just a home video release.
But supposedly that is just the beginning of the story.
TServo2049 said:
I understand completely why he's not releasing it, and I support him all the way. Kevin Brownlow continued to restore Abel Gance's Napoleon for decades, even while Francis Ford Coppola and the other rights holders prevented him from making it available to the public. Now, all parties have worked things out and it's finally going to be screened in Oakland, CA this coming spring. I think Mike has the same general mindset - he says it's not being made to sit on a hard drive, it's going to be "available to the future" when circumstances change. He calls it an investment, and I totally agree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaDlP-kmzWk
This is a detail from the Mos Eisley shot he just posted. I think it's clear now that he's working from a high-quality (possibly IB Technicolor) print scanned in 4K.
I tell you, this detail-recovery thing looks amazing, and I get how it basically works. In a stationary shot like this every frame of a print has a different part of the negative detail in it, and he's taking all that detail and combining it back together.
Pardon me if I sound like a sycophant, I'm not, I'm just amazed by what he's doing and I support it.
That looks an awful lot like dvnr to me whether applied lightly or not.
Without a moving image you cannot tell if it has edge enhancement to recover detail, as he calls it.
This process of his seems an awful lot like lowrys algorithm, but instead he does this shot by shot. No studio is going to comb through a film frame by frame.