Hi, I know of at least 1 TV show that had different retail vs rental DVD versions where the rental version had more extras. What releases have exclusives to their rental versions? Thank you.
Nice pic!
I can’t wait to read a computer has successfully read lips from a side-profile view.
I never thought it was a goof before I read that it was and I still have doubts it is a goof.
Spaced, we’ve been discussing this, the 1998MGM/1999WB DVDs supposedly have the LD audio mix. Not sure how closely they’ve been compared, however I know the 1999WB DVD has directional dialog. All later releases have reworked audio mixes.
I like the 1998MGM/1999WB for everything except the orchestral parts, however since no one has created this mix synced up to the BD, I settle with the 1999WB DVD.
Do you have all these DVDs?
Even more
I would like to see a longer list. I think there are cropped/p&s, partial (partially open matte, possibly zoomed, and lots cropped), and open-matte presentations. FX shots may be an exception and many already mentioned are excluded.
28 Days Later (FS DVD) (open-matte)
A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (FS DVD) (open-matte)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (FS/WS DVD) (open-matte)
Alexander Director’s Cut (FS DVD) (partial)
An American Tail (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Back To The Future (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Blast From The Past (FS/WS DVD) (open-matte)
Brokeback Mountain (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Cast Away (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Children Of Men (FS DVD) (partial)
Equilibrium (BD) (open-matte)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (FS DVD) (partial)
Jurassic Park (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Lawnmower Man Director’s Cut (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Point of No Return (FS/WS DVD) (open-matte)
Robocop (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Se7en (BD) (open-matte)
Supernova (FS/WS DVD) (open-matte)
The Dark Knight (FS DVD) (partial)
The Lake House (FS DVD) (open-matte)
The Net (FS/WS DVD) (open-matte)
The Return of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre (FS DVD) (open-matte)
The Truman Show (WS DVD) (open-matte)
White Fang (FS DVD) (open-matte)
Spaced, cool, then I would say, the 1998 MGM/1999 Warner DVDs are the best for both audio and video. Cheers!
Also, thank you for the explanation hairy.
The 1999 Warner DVD supposedly has the original multi-track audio and I’m wondering what the 2001 enthusiasts think of the 1999 Warner DVD picture.
It’s a dream to see 2001 in Cinerama, oh my!
Spaced Ranger, you have 2001 in 70mm? In Todd-AO?
In the 1999 Warner DVD there is some distortion in the scene right before the phone call and I wonder if it’s in the LD also.
I prefer the directional dialogue from the LD/MGM/1999WarnerDVD and it’s a toss-up for the orchestral music, however I think the orchestral music from the 2007 Warner release uses the surrounds.
Also, I’m wondering if the 1999WarnerDVD colors are similar to the Kubrick-associated LD prints.
I’m not much of a purist, however more and more, for 2001, I find myself leaning towards, how it originally was…
I would have liked to see the LD synced to the 1999 Warner DVD audio.
I now have all NTSC BD/DVD 2001 versions and I prefer the 1999 Warner DVD for the audio.
Thank you for the LD preservation.
Has the LD been preserved? Thx.
I really enjoy reading this thread and this movie. I never knew how invested people are in this movie.
Let's hope one way or another that eventually we get official word of what is still preserved.
pittrek said:
My question wasn't meant as criticism or anything like that, just a normal question. I actually AM working on "something" The Motion Picture related, that's the reason WHY I asked, because I have absolutely NOTHING to add as bonus materials.
I am also interested in bonus materials. Anyone have a list of what is out there? Is anyone looking into this currently? Thx.
mvd24 said:
I don't know if this has been mentioned anywhere in this thread. But I would like to add to the first post that the first Region2 dvd of Fantasia (released around 2000) contains the short edit of the film (same as the 1990 VHS) with all the original Deems Taylor voice over narration. And not the long version that was released overseas and where Deems Taylor was dubbed over, even on the segments of his narration that have survived.
I also got hold of a Chinese dvd of the film. This one surprisingly contains one full introduction, where we actually see Deems Taylor talking on screen. The rest is the same as the R2 dvd (voice over intros). I would suppose this is his actual voice that we are hearing.
The R2 dvd and blu ray that have come out in Europe since are the same as the US ones.
Post pictures of the cases, covers, and discs please.
Like TServ said, the R2 is probably a laserdisc release because unfortunately, from what I read, all the official releases had the narration replaced. Hope I'm wrong though.
Thanks, any links to these?
BeatleJWOL said:
pittrek said:
A question - what is not on the Compendium ?
Trekcore detailed a few items that did not appear there:
There are also a few other bits still left out for unknown reasons, including:
Two deleted scenes from the XBOX Video release:
"Pike's Office (Original Ending)"
"Kronos Fight Before Khan Arrives"
The "MTV First" roundtable interview series, totaling approximately 30 minutes
Several minor behind-the-scenes clips and VFX pre-vis videos released via XBOX Video
The six different Port of San Francisco music cues
The Into Darkness 'B-Roll' video
The nine-minute IMAX preview cut of the film's introduction, released with the first Hobbit film
Any leftovers collection should basically be the two deleted scenes, the MTV First series, any of the BTS XBOX Live videos, the music cues and the b-roll. The IMAX preview material would be covered by the ratio-shifting full feature.
You guys are doing multi-pass? Why, oh why? Oh wait, I'm talking many people who prefer byte bloated encodes. Doh! Just don't do it, ok!
All in all, unless you're willing to invest a lot of time, what you're asking isn't worth it and this thread just seems like flame-bait.
I'm not an expert, however from what I've read, just use CRF settings because multi-pass isn't necessary with more recent encoders.
For allocating less bits or custom encoding scheme just for the credits, I echo my 1st statement.
Hi, saw this thread was updated and I'm also interested in the original music from the SMBSS and I don't think anyone has put together a fan edit.
Were all SMBSS episodes released?
And does anyone know if the music was only changed for the SMB and Zelda cartoons?
Thanks.
SilverWook said:
Massive amounts of time (and money) were invested in preserving the tv version of Superman. I know because I contributed to that project.
Asking if someone if they could record a broadcast of an alternate version is not unreasonable. It's no different than asking if someone has a rare Laserdisc or VHS. People who've been around this site for more than a few months understand this.
I will try my best not to reply again because I don't think it's worth it, but I can't believe you're comparing the International Expanded Cut of Superman to the Censored version of Cliffhanger.
For this instance, I don't think that comparison works or holds water and it's somewhat not fair because when you wrote the quoted post I had already stated, "Edit:
And just so no one jumps down my throat, some TV versions need to be preserved, Needful Things for example, but I'm not convinced this one is worth preserving, etc..."
Fortunately, the edits preserve time/date stamps and everyone can see this. I already admitted some TV cuts are worth preserving, I just don't think this one is such an example. I just don't understand people's mee too mentality.
digitalfreaknyc said:
skoal said:
Hi all, I like DF's releases, they're really good, however I was looking into Se7en and was wondering, what exactly isn't on the 'Collector's Edition' DVD that's on the Criterion Laserdisc?
DF's Disc 2 contains: Dailies, TV Spots, Original Introduction with Commentary, Make-Up Video Essay with
Commentary, Production Design Video Essay with commentary, over 1000 photographs in a photo gallery,
original motion picture score (audio only) and an easter egg.
And this review site indicates: " It was a fabulous array of material, and the only things missing from New Line's Platinum Series two-DVD set are the make-up effects with commentary by Rob Bottin, the outtakes with Brad Pitt, the deleted artwork for posters, and a few other things (which Pitt and Fincher even mention in their commentary on this DVD release). And of course, the many commentaries — some short, some feature length — seem to be new." http://www.dvdjournal.com/reviews/s/seven2.shtml
What exactly are the "few other things" as it seems DF's Disc 2 has more stuff that's was on the 'Collector's Edition' DVD than wasn't. Can anyone elaborate? Thanks.
The only carry-over is the alternate opening, I believe. EVERYTHING else is new. That review is incorrect.
I beg to differ, does anyone have "Platinum Series" DVD and DF's Disc 2 and have compared already?
Is the difference like the main feature's commentary and the extras that have commentary, the commentary is different? I have found no descriptions that indicate the commentary for the extras is different between the LD and DVD.
Edit: I don't think the DVD is missing as much as is said/implied, but I dunno for sure, however see below. Either way, it doesn't include some Rob Bottin stuff, which I want to see.
Seems like the "Platinum Series" DVD contains the:
What's missing from the "Platinum Series" DVD (which isn't that much) is:
See: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/site_archive/reviews/seven.html
I still don't understand about the cropping or stabilization, however I guess I just see things differently.
On a similar topic which might be better to talk about, I don't understand how quality will be impacted in your plan.
For quality, what is the proper workflow for a project like this?
scan in at least 2x resolution of desired output resolution -> color correct -> stabilize -> descratch/denoise -> resize/crop?
Or does color correction come last as it seems would be in your plan?
SilverWook said:
Then ignore the thread, it's that easy!
Ignorance isn't something I like to routinely practice and I haven't done anything to deserve you to chastise me publicly and be off-topic when doing so.
This person would be better off requesting such a thing somewhere else and I think others agree, however I dunno fo sure.
My posts are not bad behavior, nor are they off-topic. Please don't ban or penalize me, please ban or penalize the people who started it. I'm just responding, not even in kind and I'm on topic and I'm being civil. Sheesh!
Edit:
And yes, this post is off-topic, however, there does come a point where there are so many ganging up and so many off-topic responses that it should be exucsed.
Feallan said:
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Perceptual quality. Give me a break.
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Hint: you're an asshole
I'm not in fact what you say and many objectively reading my posts can tell I'm not what you say.
Being able to reduce you to name-calling so quickly says, more about you than me and that if anyone is what you say, it's you! Ha! Put it over there!
Also, for video compression it's all about perceptional quality and if you think otherwise, then there isn't much to say to ignorance.
RossDaBoss said:
I'm sorry to say this Skoal but the world doesn't revolve around you.
Now I'm not asking for this so I can fill some ratio or big up my ego. I'm just a fan of this film and since I come from the UK I'm also have a keen interest in movie censorship. Now if a censored for TV version exists I would like to see & hear it. I have no problem wasting bytes because bytes are free to me.
Anything else you would like to add? Perhaps you might be able to record the broadcast for me?
The problem is, I don't think the world revolves around me, however you clearly do think the world revolves around you because you took what I said personally in that you thought I was speaking to you, and as a result you mis-read what I wrote.
I never said you or anyone else shouldn't/couldn't like or watch TV versions. I just said (or to go without saying, didn't say explicity), just don't make a new thread and ask the whole world for help with finding them. Sheesh!
Edit:
And just so no one jumps down my throat, some TV versions need to be preserved, Needful Things for example, but I'm not convinced this one is worth preserving, etc...
While I would use HEVC, it was only a suggestion to look into it, dunno why so many jumped down my throat, just ridiculous.
Either way, can you respond to my comments regarding the cropping and stabilization?
Especially if this is a just a "base version" as you say, I don't know why you're cropping. Seems like you're saying and then doing things that don't quite make sense to me.
I would crop only for a consistent width/height and also stabilize while I was at it, but again, that's just me.