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#280869
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The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit (Released)
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So let me get this right. The Vintage Edit currently at Demonoid is a Work in Progress and after ROTJ is done TESB is going to get another go over?

The reason I ask is it will take me a while to download 7-8 gigs so if the sabers are going to be revisited and other such fixes I'd rather wait. I haven't started dl'ing this one.

Originally posted by: INv8r_ZIM

The other issue which I'm kind of on the fence about is the cut and paste of LD material into the edit to replace altered scenes. I love to see the original stuff back, but the grain suddenly jumps out at you like crazy, since Lowry pretty much destroyed the film grain in the film. It's probably a choice between grain or some combination of blurs and softer, less detailed replacement footage, so I can see the dilema. OCP's approach of creating mattes of just the needed areas of each shot was I think a little better, if not as "authentic" and certainly more time consuming.



Considering the source material being used here is slightly better compared with OCP's I'd have to say leave it the way it is (although again I'm yet to see this). Some of the grain in OCP's shots were noticeable no matter how much he combined footage. But with what he was working with it was the best he could do I suppose, I'd expect this edit to be better.

Thanks again for all the work you are doing and getting it out there for us to enjoy.






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#277431
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The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/277431/action/topic#277431
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Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221Nah it's all from the GOUT, which is fine for darker scenes like the Emperor scene, but doesn't work well for Hoth scenes, lots of noise. What kind of broadcast is this? Where can I get it?


I don't know a whole deal about it. I know OCP used it for his CE. It's a german broadcast of the 97 SE as far as I can remember, I'll seen the dvd's poster here, but i don't have them. That's all I know.

And yes do tell us how the screening went and the response it gets. Andy K has a good point. I'd be hilarious if Lucas' stormtrooper like goons show up and attempt to shut the screening down..... well not too funny for you.

Any way I hope it goes well.

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#276779
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Hypothetical: 30th anniversary theatrical release
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276779/action/topic#276779
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The best thing I like about your post is that as suggested if the SE was done in '07 then we would have had the OOT released on dvd by now because it would of been the only product Lucasfilm would have available to put out on dvd. Actually we probably would have seen it released multiple times....... ah warm fuzzy feelings

What your suggesting is probably a good way for the OT to reach a new audience without the PT but there's a crap load of people who like the old effects and like them being 70's looking films, not all shiny and modern like the 2004 dvd's try to be.

I think you'll find that a lot of people here, myself inluded, don't even mind the SE or what your talking about in your post, just as long as it is an alternate version of the SW trilogy not the one and only version of the SW trilogy

Originally posted by: Realityghost

Specifically, I thought about how incredible it would have been if EVERY special effect shot of the OT- every optical and blue screen shot- had been redone to the standards of the prequels.


*resists making a joke about the standards of the PT*
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#276753
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Star Wars: Classic Edition 2.0 NEW from Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/276753/action/topic#276753
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I'm still downloading this so I've seen about 75% of it, that being said what does everyone think of it?

What I'm particularly interested in is opinions on the transitions and wipes between the '04 dvd and the GOUT. Being that I'm no expert on the matter and there are far more experienced forumers here who after working on their own edits know the material inside out.

What do people think of the transition when Obi Wan and Luke are walking to the docking bay when in the SE's it cuts to Jabba? From the few fan edits of the '04 dvd I've seen, this part can be the most problematic. Is this done well in the CE v2.0?

From what I've seen it looks really good for an edit of the '04 dvd. I thought the Han/Greedo scene was to my eyes perfect. And I thought the Mos Eisley approach scenes were done well considering the source material.

I'm looking forward to sitting down and watching this all.
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#275570
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See George there's no reason to lie... (future of star wars)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/275570/action/topic#275570
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http://au.movies.ign.com/articles/770/770273p1.html

George Lucas On the Future of Star Wars

Lucas on whether we'll ever see Episode VIII.
by Eric Goldman

US, March 5, 2007 - This past weekend, George Lucas was honored at the Museum of Television and Radio's William S. Paley Television Festival. Fittingly, the conversation was mostly about Lucas's television work, both past and present, including The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles and the two upcoming Star Wars oriented television series he is developing. However, Lucas also touched upon his future film work, including whether there might be any more Star Wars movies.

Lucas called them "the mysterious other Star Wars movies," referring to ongoing fan speculation on whether there might ever be an Episode VII, VIII and IX. Lucas said comments he made long ago were misconstrued as absolute statements, explaining that when he first was making the Star Wars films and was asked about future sequels, he had remarked, off the cuff, "Maybe we'll do another when the actors are all 80." However, the writer/director than laughed and added that, "What I didn't realize is, I'll be 80." Lucas noted that future Star Wars movies were, "An idea that seemed amusing at the time, but doesn't seem realistic now."

As for what films he will be working on, Lucas said that he'd been trying to get Indiana Jones 4 and Red Tails made for years, but is now, "Just about to get them finished." Indiana Jones 4 goes into production soon for a May 2008 release, but Lucas's comments seem to hint there will be an announcement in the not too distant future about the long in development Red Tails, which focuses on the Tuskegee Airmen -- African-American pilots who fought in World War II.

Lucas spent much of the time during this appearance explaining the difficulties he sees in the film business, and why he will be focusing more on television in the future, which he thinks is more "fun." Regarding his oft-mentioned "little, experimental" films he wishes to make, he reiterated his desire to do just that, but added these projects, "Might not make it into theaters."



It's much easier to refute things were ever said or put it down to misinterpretation, but it was never hard to simply state the truth that more movies were considered post ROTJ but now the idea of making them has lost its appeal. Kudos for setting the record straight......... for now.

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#266380
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What do you love about Star Wars?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266380/action/topic#266380
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That's an easy question.

What I love about Star Wars is they are the ultimate kids movies/trilogy. I loved watching them as a kid, it set of my imagination off like wildfire and when I wasn't watching the movies all I thought about was SW. Whether it was playing with the action figures or running around the backyard pretending I was Luke Skywalker chasing down and shooting stormtroopers.

What I also love about SW is although they were the greatest kids movies that we grew up with, they are also kick ass movies to watch as an adult. Nostalgia plays it's part for all of us but the movies also have plenty to enjoy as adults, kind of what Pixar is good at. Parents don't mind taking their kids to see these films because everyone can enjoy them.




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#266220
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Seeing the Saga in order - a review by a first-time viewer....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/266220/action/topic#266220
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Why did he direct all three prequels?

Because after the SE Lucas realised directing just got easier. SW was a pain in the ass, now with technology he could sit in a chair behind plasma screens with an AD yelling "Action" and "Cut" himself occasionally adding "Faster" and "More Intense". The rest he could do with computers.

In '95 he didn't know what he was talking about. Hell, in '00 he didn't know what he was talking about. He said Episode 2 was going to be a radical departure from SW, a love story, very personal and for lack of a better word "slow". One of his visual effects guys, not Coleman, his name escapes me right now even brought it up with Lucas saying *paraphrasing* I thought you said this movie was going to be a love story and you've got us doing all these CG battles on a scope never been done before, we're really going to have our work cut out for us now, thanks.

I know a little bit about writing and plotting and such, so I know when something works and when it doesn't. Lucas deliberately tried to play to his audience. He's done that to the detriment of his story. That's really disappointing. It's also phony as hell. He says he's an artist and he's all for the artist to do things the way they want to do, but he if really was an artist, he wouldn't have tried to appease anyone. He would have done what was best for his art. He even fucking says so in the commentary that he knew people wanted that stuff in. Fuck that.....you do what's best for the story. If you have to leave something out, then you do it. Roger fucking Waters knew to do that with Dark Side Of The Moon and look how that turned out...fucking masterpiece album. Lucas is a two faced phony who's bowing to one thing only...the almighty dollar.



Off Topic

Roger Waters = Bad Ass
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#261986
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261986/action/topic#261986
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But if Anakin doesn't jive with the Jedi and is an outsider from day one because he had a chance at a childhood and developed a personality and ultimately in the end he goes bad, this only reaffirms the Jedi's stance that kids must be found at birth and trained from then on.

This also reaffirms George's notion that children have their blood tested at birth to see their force potential.

Fuck it I agree, but throw it all out the window and start again. Have kids train to become Jedi when it is realised they're strong with the force because they start displaying their abilities in the midst of their childhood. Like Anakin but it should have been the norm.

Luke should have been too old because he was an adult. And Anakin if you would of preferred to see him Luke's age as many do.

Let all the Jedi have personalities. It makes for a more interesting movie, instead of dudes is a rubber mask sitting in a chair. Obi Wan and Yoda had one each in the OT so why do the Jedi have to be staunch in the PT. Let them be individuals with different opinions and philosophies not monks with a strict code and guide lines.

I watched Seven Samurai last night. Each Samurai is different, an individual with a personality but still with a deep dedication to their craft.

That's enough rambling for now.
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#261982
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Favorite Character
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261982/action/topic#261982
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I both agree and disagree, though Ewan was good in the PT he did falter a few times, what would you expect with lines like "I told you to stay away from Power Couplings" hahahahaha I was laughing as I was typing it. I thought Liam Neeson was the standout. With Ewan in second and no one else was in the race.

And I have to disagree again, Ewan was already a break out star prior to 1999. Maybe not in the U.S but a star regardless.

And yes Ewan Mcgregor's moustache is the tits.

Edit: see my signature. Ewan is a breath of fresh air and honesty in an industry of PR spin. Nothing to do with his acting, just a cool guy.
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#261867
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261867/action/topic#261867
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Nope

I didn't care. I found it quite funny (not ha ha funny) that they all seemed to be shot from behind. That's it, that's all it takes, sneak up and shoot from behind. Anakin shouldn't of taken Obi Wan on, all in his face, with a lightsaber. He should of snuck up from behind with a blaster.

Well that doesn't seem to work as a Jedi killing trick in sports bars at least.

And speaking of Obi Wan, the events of the OT wouldn't of taken place if the Commander Cody's aim was a little bit more 'on' like his other Jedi killing clones. Obi Wan gets knocked out in two movies and then nearly gets blasted by clones and is only alive by chance, how lame. At least he is given his groove back by beating down evil Ani.

I didn't care about the Jedi because I never got a chance to see who they were. Fans only know of them because of the EU, I don't pay any attention to that, nor should I have to.

The only Jedi, other than Obi Wan, Qui Gon and Yoda, that was named was Mace......... and some dude who was dead but his name was used to order a zillion clones. I only know that Mace was supposedly a bad ass and Yoda's right hand man was because I heard it in some web documentary.

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#261789
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261789/action/topic#261789
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Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
That is the most fucking retarded thing I have ever heard. Tell me how I can "understand" a Jar-Jar look-alike shouting "Yippee!" at the end of ROTJ. Oh that's right, you can't explain it, as it was stupid and redundant.


Err....... You mean .... "Weesa Free"

Sorry, nothing else to add it has all been said perfectly.
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#261563
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my memory isn't that bad, is it? (in SW '77 - Luke misses with the grappling hook?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261563/action/topic#261563
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Yeah the evidence suggests otherwise. For the record I don't think it happened it's just that that's the way I remembered it too, like a bunch of other fans that's all. Odd misinterpreted childhood memories is all it could be, like me believing Luke accidentally shot the controls. It never happened but that's the way I remembered or interpreted the scene.

Like me having also having absolutely no recollection of the scene in which C3PO recounts the groups adventures to the ewoks. Doesn't mean it wasn't there in some obscure TV broadcast.
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#261477
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my memory isn't that bad, is it? (in SW '77 - Luke misses with the grappling hook?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261477/action/topic#261477
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Wow that's pretty crazy stuff. I've never heard of the Wedge introduction scene.

I love the fact that you loved SW and didn't understand what was being said, very cool.

I just wanted to add that I've never read the novel, comic or any additional material, and I can't recall ever seeing a SW documentary in my youth.




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#261453
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my memory isn't that bad, is it? (in SW '77 - Luke misses with the grappling hook?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261453/action/topic#261453
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I too have memories of Luke missing on his first throw. If I did indeed see this it wasn't in the cinema because I wasn't alive.

I did have a recorded TV broadcast on vhs that I used to watch everyday when I was like 4 years old. My first purchased copy of the SW trilogy was the '97 SE's and upon watching them for the first time it really stuck out in my mind that Luke made the throw first time around and him and Leia made the swing etc.

Whether I remembered incorrectly or this was edited for the SE I did not know, but it was soon forgetton about as I watched the SE a bunch of times and it became normal for me seeing Luke make the throw first time.

Sadly I no longer have that vhs tape of the tv broadcast. Actually, from my childhood I had two recordings of different tv broadcasts of SW. which one I am remembering or think I am remembering I don't know.

All this is probably my mind playing tricks on me, because as a kid I could have sworn that Luke shot the controls to extend the bridge by accident as he nearly runs over the edge. But we all know he does it on purpose a few moments later to stop the stormtrooper coming through the door.

I guess its safe to say kids don't get everything that happens in a movie, well at least I didn't. Though it didn't stop me from enjoying it any less.
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#261309
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261309/action/topic#261309
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That's kind of why I ignore the PT, CO. It's hard enough to keep continuity between 3 SW films let alone 6. That and I don't particularly care for them.

And if we want to discuss lame Emperors, I think Ian's in ROTS takes the cake. He was quite good at playing the politician Palpatine, but so over the top once he became the halloween masked buffoon.

George had some 20 years to have Palpatine's visage slowly become twisted by the dark side into what appears on screen in ROTJ or ESB even, yet he decided he'd have some make up whacked on and have him gnarly and decrepit in an instant.

http://www.cybertronical.com/allsites/starwars/main/characters/darth_sidious/ds.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/light_sabe_r/sidious.jpg

Which do you think is a better looking newly declared Emperor?

Me thinks that what was originally planned. Look how decidedly younger ROTS Palpatine looks compared to AOTC Palpatine.

http://obix1.com/Off_Site/Palpatine-Saga.jpg

Ian looks freakin' old in AOTC with his added Mr Burns liver spots. Maybe in the the SE PT ILM can CG Ian so he doesn't look so ancient and more in keeping with his appearence in ROTS.

Pictures credited to google images.