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#1258353
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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^ I agree . Oddly enough , I just came across a meme last night that depicted a vase with Kintsugi applied to it . I had never heard the word before .The meme stated that a thing is become more beautiful for having been broken .having survived a life threatening illneess and surgery , with a huge scar on my back , I think that is pretty cool .

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#1258251
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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RogueLeader said:

The old Jedi Order took students from infancy in order to control their emotional attachments, which they saw as gateways to the dark side. This is why they were so reluctant to take on Anakin as a Jedi. I think it gave the wrong impression that learning how to use the Force took years, when that really isn’t the entirely the case. It has more to do with belief, and one’s ability to “let go of your conscious self”.

It also surprises me a little that people haven’t considered as much that the Force itself has changed between the trilogies. The Force isn’t a static ability, it’s dynamic and connected to life itself, making it in a way alive.

Episode 7 is literally called The Force Awakens. What does that mean? Is it not possible that this awakening is not partially responsible for the feats we’ve seen across the board in the new films, like Kylo Ren freezing blaster bolts, Rey’s fast-growing abilities, their subsequent Force-Skype sessions, Leia pulling herself back to the ship, Luke’s Force projection, even broom boy’s subtle Force pull?

You could even argue this began with Luke in the OT, the first real student of the Force since the Jedi Purge. He really only had a few weeks at most of official training with Yoda, but in Return of the Jedi, only a year later with no additional training under Yoda, he is on the verge of officially becoming a Jedi.

It raises some questions about the nature of the Force. Does the overall use of the Force have an affect on its potential in existing Force-users? Does the Force have a will of its own to choose who it acts through? Did training Jedi from infancy have a side-effect of limiting their relationship with the Force in ways that didn’t exist for those who discovered it at adulthood? Is the Force just like an ocean, where the tide can rise and fall?

I personally think these questions about the Force should really never be answered fully, and should remain mysterious, simple-yet-complicated, and sometimes contradictory, much like the Tao that inspired it, and also as a concept of a universal religion-symbol that George meant it to be, since religions are also endlessly debated upon.

I think the important theme we are meant to take from the Force is the ideas of faith and belief, the crux of all religions, and the internal power we can get from faith in our own lives, religious or not. Luke struggles with the Force in the OT because of his doubt in the Force and his own personal self-doubt.

Rey on the other hand grew up with the legend of Luke Skywalker and the Jedi, and not long after learning about the reality of the them, she slowly learns that she’s also connected to this Force and begins her own journey of self-discovery and self-actualization.

With broom boy, moments before his Force use, he is being told the story of Luke Skywalker’s grand stand against the evil First Order, with wonder in his eyes. He believes in the Jedi, in the Force, and that subtle moment, something he might not have even realized he did, is a representation of what the power of faith and hope can have in the world and in ourselves.

Anyway, just my two cents. Not trying to argue, just sharing my perspective.

^ very well said ! I came to the same conclusion a few pages back about the title literally being The Force Awakens on the first of the ST movies , but you expanded upon it here better than I did . Also brings to mind the tagline in the trailer for TFA , " There has been an awakening , have you felt it "?

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#1258164
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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fmalover said:

screams in the void said:

while I do believe a movie should stand on it’s own , there is a 30 year gap between the OT and the ST .A lot can happen in that time . The Novel Bloodline by Claudia Gray goes a long way to explain how the First Order was funded . It also deals with the reaction of the New Republic after Leia is finally outed as the daughter of Darth Vader …http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodline_(novel)

Yeah, I read all about it. I still call bullshit on the FO’s rise to power.

I posted on a different thread that the First Order should have been portrayed as employing guerilla warfare, espionage which would encompass infiltration, sleeper agents and what have you, conquering seemingly unimportant worlds, using Imperial technology derived from unused prototypes (the dreadnought at the beginning of TLJ could have been used as a sort of ghost ship that strikes from the shadows). You get the point.

interesting opinions on how you feel the First Order should have been portrayed .Having read Bloodline , what about it makes you call B.S. though ?

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#1258102
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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while I do believe a movie should stand on it’s own , there is a 30 year gap between the OT and the ST .A lot can happen in that time . The Novel Bloodline by Claudia Gray goes a long way to explain how the First Order was funded . It also deals with the reaction of the New Republic after Leia is finally outed as the daughter of Darth Vader …http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodline_(novel)

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#1258058
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does display type matter ?
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interesting article , I did not know how much of a hand Zenith had in the development of HD TV .And the fact that they are no longer an independent company reminds me of RCA . RCA kind of screwed the pooch with the CED Player and discs . They were a slight step above vhs but they were too late to market with them .The CED pretty much bankrupted RCA and GE had to step in .
They manufactured the players and discs in my home state of Indiana in the city of Bloomington and Indianapolis .Cool Dell monitor there too , I still have a Dell PC from 2006 in my makeshift office and it still functions .

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#1257952
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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^lol . And they did call the first of the movies the force AWAKENS , so this theory makes sense to me . I also had the thought the other day that perhaps Rey’s abilities were shaped more rapidly by being on Ach To as that was hinted to be the first Jedi temple in TFA . I like to think such a place would be a powerful nexus for the Force .

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#1257943
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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^ I like what RogueLeader said up there …it’s like Star Wars will stay alive not by fighting what we hate about it , but saving what we love ! 😃 and I like what Duracell said too …Schrodenger’s Star Wars ? and the Trekkie comment was funny too , although , they can co exist . There was a Starlog magazine which had coverage of the 10th anniversary of Star Wars in which George Lucas shook Roddenberry’s hand and told him he stopped writing the script to Star Wars each afternoon to watch Trek re runs

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#1257879
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does display type matter ?
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thanks for your reply , and yes , I do appreciate that link ! I love learning about esoteric and old tech and that was an eye opener . I had no idea how many applications there were for cathode ray tubes . and glad you got my Zenith reference .I am in the U.S.A. and they were common here in the 70’s and 80’s . They were usually in wooden consoles and more like part of everyday furniture that some people used to put little white doilies on top of.

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#1257722
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does display type matter ?
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^ very cool and a nice looking Sony Trinitron you had there . I remember reading articles from about 2005 or so where manufacturers were starting to try to compete with flat panel lcd’s at the time because they were prohibitively expensive , so they began to make some wider crt tubes and put bezels on them to mimic that flat screens at a far less expensive price point . Too bad it took this for crt manufacturers to up their game .The technology had really reached a zenith point ( ha ,Zenith , see what I did there ?) after 60 or so years of being around , they had a lot of time to develop . I can only imagine what we would have today if they continued to innovate .

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#1257713
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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I don’t remember seeing Heir To The Empire advertised before I became aware of it . I first came across it in the now defunct Waldenbooks in my local mall back in 91 . I practically jumped for joy when I saw it and bought it immediately . At the time , I was starving for any new Star Wars content as there was hardly any to be found after the Marvel comic series ended , except for three issues of a 3d comic , the roleplaying game , and the Droids/Ewoks cartoon . That was about it . This is why I will never complain about over saturation of Star Wars . Kids these days …sheesh…GET OFF MY LAWN !!!

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#1257528
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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  • ahh , I think you are right about SW 17 , I got my wires crossed between that and the ROTJ novel. and yeah ,I think you are right about everyone in that era trying to guess how everything connected . That is part of the charm of that era , where there was only one movie and things could go anywhere without having to be rigidly interconnected .
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#1257524
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Custom Cinematic Universes
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paja said:

screams in the void said:

first thing that comes to mind for me is the Dc animated Batman …Batman Year One , Mask Of The Phantasm , Under The Red Hood and The Dark Knight Returns . Pretty much takes you from the beginning to the end of his career .

Which one should I watch first? Year one or Phantasm. Since both have to do with Bat’s origin

year one would be the true start as Phantasm begins with flashbacks of his origin and then goes forward in time ten years

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#1257519
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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ah…just checked and it is the second edition where I saw that 112 year for 3p0 , I was mistaken about it’s placement in the book ,There’s no mention of it in the entry for C-3PO, but there’s a timeline in the front of the book that says:

112 BSW4 (before SW Ep4): C-3PO activated.

it also has:

35 BSW4: Clone Wars ended. And issue 17 of the original Marvel comic hinted at Owen and Ben being brothers too , as did the ROTJ novelization .

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#1257516
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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oojason said:

dragon said:

your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi,solo,and resistance.

For me, no. Not sure why TFA and Rogue One aren’t included in your post (they are Disney-era Star Wars too, yes?) - yet here goes…

I didn’t get past the first few episodes of Resistance - though I imagine it’s generally aimed more for a younger audience than this mid-40’s fan. I’ll likely watch it with nephews and nieces - seems a decent intro for them into all things Star Wars. Though including a new animated tv series that hasn’t yet reached the end of it’s first season in your post that partially ‘Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did’ kill Star Wars… seems somewhat strange.

What is ‘sounds like they did’? Internet gossip and videos? Other fans’ (or media) negative / clickbait views? Box office? I don’t care much for those to be honest - more of a case ‘did I enjoy these films’? And for the most part, yes - I did. A few parts I didn’t like, or thought could have been handled better - though am still yet to see a ‘perfect’ film (Star Wars or not)

Has Disney ‘killed SW’ with the content you listed? For me, no - my enjoyment of the films (and also criticisms) hasn’t been diminished by some claiming it sounds like Disney ‘killed’ it - whatever that vague / open question means.

Are they up there with the OT? Not for me (Rogue One apart). Still, with an episode to still come with the Sequel Trilogy… they’ve been a lot more enjoyable than the Prequels for me - and has seen the SW universe return to a welcome OT feel and vibe. That’s not to say I didn’t have issues with them (tone and impact of certain events), as well as some of the choice made so far.
 

I’m eagerly looking forward to IX, and also both The Mandalorian and Cassian Andor tv series - with some intrigue for RJ and the GOT lads’ respective SW trilogies to come (though kind of difficult to be excited in something of which we know nothing about - though hope they are both on a par with their previous quality bodies of work). Personally, I hope they’ll be set apart from the main Saga or timeframes we’ve seen so far - perhaps stories around the KOTOR era, or the GFFA set in the future - would be most welcome.

I pretty much agree with everything you said here , and I believe the series can go forward without Luke . Han, Leia etc . It has before in the form of KOTOR and before that , Tales Of The Jedi comics which spawned it .I admit that I was skeptical when I first read them , but I thought from Dark Lords of The Sith to Redemption really shined . I think that is the key , go hundreds of years in the past or the future . The Dark Horse Legacy series did this to a degree ,although that had a descendant of Skywalker .I think characterization is the key .

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#1257506
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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DominicCobb said:

Not entirely sure what this will be but the art style is very cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wsHRyLWgWg

very cool ! Now that is the kind of stuff I would like to see a full length series of . It also reminds me a little bit of the Original Trilogy graphic novel I bought a couple years ago where Disney adapted all the films in one hardback volume , although this animation looks a step up from that to me and not as much like caricatures of everyone …here is the graphic novel write up from the official site …https://www.starwars.com/news/reimagining-a-saga-how-lucasfilm-press-made-the-beautiful-star-wars-the-original-trilogy-a-graphic-novel