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#1511231
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A '<strong>Rumour and News</strong>' thread for reported new Star Wars films and tv series
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So for those keeping track, here’s where we’re at:

CONFIRMED BY LUCASFILM
Rian Johnson’s trilogy
Kevin Feige’s movie that Michael Waldron is writing
Taika Waititi’s movie (rumored to be a loose Dawn of the Jedi adaptation)
Rogue Squadron (originally for 2023 but now delayed indefinitely like everything else)

CONFIRMED BY CREATORS
Shawn Levy’s movie (may be the same as Feige’s)
Studio Ghibli collaboration (may not be a movie)

REPORTED ON
The Knights of the Old Republic movie
Damon Lindeloff’s movie set short after Rise Of Skywalker

OFFICIALLY CANCELED
The Benioff&Weiss series
JD Dillard’s movie

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#1504179
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You're Disney, what do you do with Star Wars?
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of_Kaiburr_and_Whills said:

SparkySywer said:

StarkillerAG said:

SparkySywer said:

Darth Malgus said:

I think it might be simpler to just do it the way the Star Trek EU does and let people choose to integrate or not integrate whichever canon they want.

Well, no. Unlike most of you, I’m a person who actually cares about continuity. I would like Star Wars to be a multimedia project, a single universe made up of multiple media that’s basically consistent with itself and between the various stories, as much as possible. I’m absolutely in favour of the existence of and official continuity, I think it’s necessary. This doesn’t prevent the individual fans to create their own personal Canon, and in fact I am the first to do so. But I think the existence of a stable and consistent official continuity is important.

Why

Why not? Canon isn’t the biggest deal ever, but it’s nice to have everything in a fictional universe be roughly consistent with each other. That way, you get to avoid the confusion that comes with insanely tangled multiverse timelines, and every installment feels like it “matters” in the grand scheme of things.

I guess I just don’t see the value in that. I don’t think either Star Wars EU does anything especially interesting with the overarching history of the galaxy so I don’t think we’d lose much by moving away from an overarching continuity. It feels like more of a novelty that pretty wildly different stories have continuity between each other.

I’m not big on the idea of all these interconnected stories myself. I think a better approach is to let different creators do different types of stories however they want to. If they want to form a continuity, the only rule should be no contradicting other stories. I think at its inception, Lucasfilm marketing wanted the EU to work like this, but what ended up happening was authors started trying to interweave everything. Miss this one book that came out three years ago? Well looks like you’re not going to understand what this is all about then.

Its also one of my least favorite parts about comic books. Miss a story or read one you didn’t like? Too bad, here it is in another series and you have to deal with it here now! This is a very niche thing but still, I personally hate not having a full story like that. This is going to seem bizarre to some but I did not like the famous Thrawn trilogy. I do however, somewhat enjoy Jedi Academy. It isn’t a big deal, but it is annoying to see Thrawn and Dark Empire Palpatine brought up in Jedi Academy, a trilogy that I think should be its entirely own story.

Just my opinions of course.

I completely agree (including the part about the Thrawn trilogy being overrated).

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#1503103
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The Star Wars canon saga as only the OT?
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BedeHistory731 said:

Maybe we’d have been better off if Lucas just made “The Star Wars” into a novel series. Who knows, maybe it would’ve been adapted into a set of movies?

Maybe. Sometimes I consider the sw77 novelization (The Adventures of Luke Skywalker), Splinter of the Mind’s Eye and the three Han Solo Adventures books to be “true” Star Wars.

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#1503057
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The Star Wars canon saga as only the OT?
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of_Kaiburr_and_Whills said:

That’s an entirely valid way to look at it and one I’ll probably circle back to at one point. I completely see how ESB and ROTJ add to the world of SW, but it’s not worth it to me.

Right now, I’m just so burned out on franchise filmmaking that I relish in the idea of standalones. Leaving on a high note > overstaying your welcome. Some people see ROTJ or ROTS as that high note, I see Star Wars as that high note in this moment. One excellent movie and that’s it. ESB isn’t a Highlander II or Jurassic Park II: The Lost World, but it’s decisions led to far worse things to come for the franchise.

In recent times I’ve come to feel the same way about films, I really don’t like these drawn out series. That’s why I’m not the biggest fan of TV show formats. And while they are still franchise movies, I’m excited by the prospect of these new standalone Star Wars films. That way I can take them or leave them when there’s one I don’t like, and it’s not dependent on other films. For example, I wasn’t that big a fan of Rogue One, but absolutely LOVE Solo!

For the Original Trilogy, I view it more as a standalone film that happened to get two sequels. I think I already said it on this thread, but each of the films feel so distinct, you can tell they weren’t all planned together and all three seek to accomplish different things.

Now, I grew up with the prequels, but I find myself hardly ever watching them because they, way more that the OT, demand to be followed upon. I’m not sure the best way to put it, so I hope that makes sense. Its one reason I think I love the Indiana Jones movies so much. All four are all pretty self contained, and are their own story with shared characters, not trying to tell an elaborate overarching epic. I wish more film series were like this.

Agreed. A lot of film franchises bite off way more than they can chew these days. Would be nice to see a return to more self-contained storytelling all around.

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#1503045
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The Star Wars canon saga as only the OT?
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Servii said:

BedeHistory731 said:

rocknroll41 said:

Nice to see other people finally becoming sw77 purists like me!

That said, I was watching ESB just yesterday for the first time in awhile and I can at least appreciate how well it’s made from a technical standpoint.

As others here have said, it works very well on its own, but led to serious issues in the long run with the force, saber fights, familial themes, etc.

“Franchise original sin” really is a bitch, isn’t it?

You know, it’s a funny thing. Nearly every Star Wars fan I’ve met believes there was some “line” that Star Wars crossed at some point that marks when the franchise jumped the shark. But no one ever agrees on when that “line” was crossed. Was it 1980, 1983, 1997, 1999, 2015, 2017, etc.

You can add 2019 to that list now too…

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#1502928
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Things you DISLIKE about the Original Trilogy ( but not the Ewoks, Leia and Luke being siblings, Death Star 2 etc.)
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theprequelsrule said:

Interesting how a fair number of people see Vader being Luke’s father as, perhaps, not a great idea. Far fewer people thought this in the last century I would bet.

Well look what it led to:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R4wOzbqgfIY

And that’s not even factoring in the ST…

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#1502927
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Things you DISLIKE about the Original Trilogy ( but not the Ewoks, Leia and Luke being siblings, Death Star 2 etc.)
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MinchD36 said:

I dont like the Emperor is a Force user i like Force users being rare also Palpatine do so little in the OT that make him a Non Force user would affect nothing to his character in the OT yes he tortures Luke in the last minutes of the final movie of the trilogy but Palpatine was mostly a Cameo and he is more important for the Prequels and Sequels movies than the OT

Plus is ties the war conflict and the force conflict too closely together. Now all the heroes have to do to solve all their problems is kill this one person. Makes the universe too small when you have a singular puppet master pulling ALL the strings like that.

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#1502922
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The Star Wars canon saga as only the OT?
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Nice to see other people finally becoming sw77 purists like me!

That said, I was watching ESB just yesterday for the first time in awhile and I can at least appreciate how well it’s made from a technical standpoint.

As others here have said, it works very well on its own, but led to serious issues in the long run with the force, saber fights, familial themes, etc.

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#1502919
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You're Disney, what do you do with Star Wars?
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fmalover said:

TLJ is the only thing I love about the ST, and it’s precisely the one that ignored the fans.

This is pretty much the boat I’m in as well, though I can appreciate how well-made TFA is from a technical standpoint, and I can kinda enjoy TRoS if I pretend the other two don’t exist.

But yeah, TLJ is the only one of the three that has true storytelling integrity.

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#1490053
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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As much as I loved the finale, now that I’ve had the time to look back on the whole series with hindsight, I agree with many out there that this should’ve been a movie instead. That said, I did like how each episode “emulated” a different saga film from Episode I-VI, and I’m pretty sure the finale also had a few sequel trilogy references sprinkled in for good measure too, which was cool. Not sure if any of that has been discussed here yet!

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#1489819
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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I just watched the Kenobi finale… I’ve been a Star Wars fan for over 20 years, and I seriously think that may have just been one of the best Star Wars things I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s not perfect, but the good outweighs the bad for me by far. Also I think I forgot to mention this on here before, but I really liked Part V too.

Now one of you needs to edit this all down into a movie and cut out as much of the fifth brother as possible, please…