rocknroll41

What’s interesting is that a movie called The Return was just released which adapts the final part of The Odyssey, where Odysseus returns home after 20 years and has to win his wife back. As I understand it, that movie doesn’t adapt any of the supernatural elements, but it sounds like Nolan’s will. That said, since Nolan loves telling stories out of order, I bet he will still start the movie with Odysseus returning home, and have most of the adventure stuff told through flashbacks, with Odysseus acting as an “unreliable narrator,” of sorts.

It’s been confirmed now that Chris Nolan’s next movie is a direct adaptation of Homer’s “The Odyssey.”

Cast includes Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Zendaya, Anne Hathaway, Lupita Nyong’o, Robert Pattinson, and Charlize Theron.

Discuss.

The first three episodes had a “maybe this shoulda been a movie instead” vibe to me, but now with this fourth episode, I’m starting to see how the show can work as a show. If the rest of the episodes are this good, this’ll go way up in the ranking for me.

Sounds like the Sharmeen movie and Kinberg trilogy might both get shelved for now anyways, and Levy’s movie might happen first now. If rumors are to be believed, Levy’s takes place far in the future and features Rey as an old lady. That’s probably the better route to go, at this point. Skip all the “rebuild the Jedi” stuff and have them back in full force (no pun intended).

Rebel Force Radio is corroborating Sneider’s scoop that Kasdan is the new writer of the Sharmeen movie.

Fang Zei said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Pulled from 2026 Christmas release is un-freakin believable.

It really isn’t, though.

Dune: Messiah is also set for that same date.

The irony of all of this to me is that we went from five movies that got rushed through production to five years of streaming shows without a single new theatrical film. Now the first one we actually get won’t be any of the originally announced projects but a continuation of one of the shows.

Maybe this is actually a good thing, since this way there’s less of a chance they rush unfinished scripts before the camera.

My thoughts exactly.

Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

Rumor has it that Lawrence Kasdan is gonna be the new writer of this.

Where did you hear this?

Jeff Sneider

Rumor has it that Lawrence Kasdan is gonna be the new writer of this.

Yeah, it leaked early to the trades. No official announcement (yet).

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/star-wars-rey-movie-simon-kinberg-1236059786/

^this article basically confirms that Disney want to do more stuff with Rey but don’t exactly know what direction to go in.

Superweapon VII said:

Do the unmade SW films outnumber the made ones yet?

Let’s see!

Canceled films: Kevin Feige spy thriller, Rian Johnson trilogy (though Rian did say he might still end up doing a show instead). I’m not counting Obi-Wan or Boba Fett cause those ended up being shows anyways.

Films currently in development: Obaid-Chinoy movie (Episode 9.5), Waititi movie, Mangold movie (Jedi Prime story that the GoT guys were originally gonna do), Jenkins movie (Rogue Squadron), Filoni movie (Heir to the Empire), Glover movie (Lando), Kinberg trilogy (Episodes 10-12), Levy movie (old lady Rey).

So in total, we have this:

Theatrically-released Star Wars films: 15 (I’m counting TCW08 and Mando & Grogu since it’s already been filmed, and also counting the Ewok films since they were released theatrically outside the US)

Movies still in development or canceled: 14

Close!

EDIT: also forgot about the Droid and Wookiee movies that Lucas thought about doing way back in the day. Do those count?

Filming has been completed:

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-the-mandalorian-and-grogu-filming-complete/

For what it’s worth tho, Daisy just did another interview today and says everything is fine and she’s “looking forward to the next stage of development.” So maybe they’re keeping knight’s draft and just hiring someone else to tweak it.

Raiders

Not really a movie, but I just watched the new South Park special “The End of Obesity” and really enjoyed it.

Updated Top 10 for the year (I think this is how it’s gonna stay now):

1.Dune: Part Two
2.Alien: Romulus
3.Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
4.Inside Out 2
5.Civil War
6.Young Woman and the Sea
7.South Park: The End of Obesity
8.Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
9.Drive-Away Dolls
10.Megalopolis (so bad that it’s good)

I purposefully omitted superhero films this time. Getting sick of superheroes.

Spartacus01 said:

Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

Why the change?

'Cause he watched The Acolyte, probably.

Sadly, kinda, yeah…

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

I’m starting to have second thoughts about Megalopolis again. I think I’m gonna take it off my Top 10 for the year, and put Kung Fu Panda 4 back.

Was gonna listen to an album or two today, but then SESAC banned most of my favorite artists from YouTube here in America. Oh well…

I guess Megalopolis is growing on me now, since I’ve had more time to think it over.

Updated top 10 for the year:

1.Dune: Part Two

2.Alien: Romulus

3.Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga

4.Inside Out 2

5.Civil War

6.Young Woman and the Sea

7.Deadpool & Wolverine

8.Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes

9.Megalopolis (so bad that it’s good)

10.Drive-Away Dolls (so bad that it’s good)

Vladius said:

Servii said:

NFBisms said:

Yeah, I see that too, I just think it’s symptomatic of an unwieldy/messy script more than it is intentional malice or whatever for the series. That’s ridiculous to me, it’s at worst a guy who has different ideas [than you or someone else] about how this all works and who these characters are.

I agree. TLJ may be very flawed and misguided in a lot of ways, but it’s not malicious or nihilistic or anti-Star Wars. At most, you could call it existentialist, since the movie has the heroes question the basic aspects of Star Wars, only to choose to embrace them in the end, anyway.

My problem is mainly that I think the sequel trilogy era is too shallow and flimsy to stand up to that level of scrutiny or questioning, so I ended up disengaging, and felt no investment in what was going on.

Anyway, we were talking about dialogue.

By the director’s own words, he wanted to create a movie where half of the people who watch it hate it, and he succeeded. There is a clear dislike of Luke Skywalker and the Jedi. There is no refutation of any of the nihilistic stuff he says throughout the movie at all. In fact, Yoda confirms that everything they did was a failure, their sacred traditions are boring, and commences book burning (he let Rey take the books so she could get the tips and tricks and do it herself because she’s better than Luke, but he was deceiving Luke and wanted him to think he was burning the books. The audience is also supposed to think this is a good idea because Yoda is doing it, before the fakeout.)

Saying that if the Jedi die the light dies is vanity, the Jedi at the height of their power got wiped out by Darth Sidious like they deserved it, etc. None of this stuff is questioned. It also canonizes the misguided fan concept that the light and dark sides are yin and yang and will always equalize (“powerful light, powerful darkness” “darkness rises and light to meet it”) which inherently makes the whole setting pointless and hollow.

The message of Luke appearing in projection form isn’t that “the Jedi are good, actually,” it’s that image is everything. The real Luke doesn’t matter, because the specter of younger, popular Luke is what people like. It’s all about deception and propaganda. The actual Jedi and the actual Luke sucked but they’re a noble lie.

The “I want half the people to like my movie and half to hate it” thing was from a 2005 interview where he was promoting Brick. By the time TLJ came out, he said he regretted that statement.

Just saw megalopolis, and it’s as terrible as they say…

Also, for some reason, they showed the trailer for the new venom movie TWICE at my screening.

Honestly most of the dialogue in TLJ is pretty bad. Whenever I wanna rewatch that movie, I always watch the score-only version instead.

It’s a shame too cause I actually think the story itself is good/ underrated. Just goes to show how dialogue can really make or break a movie…

Acbagel said:

Put one of my groomsmen into the ground today. 28 years old. Lost his mind in the realm of drugs and mental illness. It started with weed at far too young of an age, then weed turned to hallucinogens and psychedelics. His brain, his very reasoning, wittled away under the influence of such chemicals. Whether you believe this in a real spiritual sense or not, he began to tell us how he would speak with demons. He changed. Complete incoherence and mental psychosis followed. He tried every treatment plan under the sun. We tried so hard to offer help, show him love, but he didn’t accept. He grew to only desire the surreal, the desire for life and reality slipped away, no matter how much you were there for him. The demons in his mind took his life.

Hard to find solace in such awfulness. Cherish the good memories you are able to have with your loved ones, accept that sometimes there are forces outside of your control that you can’t beat yourself up over, and always, always, show one another true love.

RIP Brother, I will miss you until the end of my days.

Very sorry for your loss.

I have a few family members going through pretty much what you described right now, actually. Seems to be happening more and more these days.

Just watched that new movie Civil War. It was very good!

updated top 10 for the year:
1.Dune: Part Two
2.Alien: Romulus
3.Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
4.Inside Out 2
5.Civil War
6.Young Woman and the Sea
7.Deadpool & Wolverine
8.Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
9.Drive-Away Dolls
10.Kung Fu Panda 4