rocknroll41

Channel72 said:

I haven’t watched this show, and it’s encouraging to read all the positive reactions. But it seems this show barely registered on this forum’s radar, judging by the extremely limited engagement in this thread. In contrast, the thread for The Acolyte (which had a mostly luke-warm or negative reception on this forum) generated like 15 pages of posts, and the Andor and Kenobi threads generated even more than that. It seems this forum is just not particularly interested in Skeleton Crew. I wonder if this is a more universal phenomenon that extends beyond this forum. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case, because this show does not use widely-known pre-existing characters and has a very unique or niche premise for a Star Wars show.

This reminds me of a larger conversation about awareness and advertising for streaming shows. I mean, 20 years ago whenever a Hollywood film or network TV show (especially something as culturally impactful as Star Wars) was released, the marketing would be pretty much unavoidable. You would become aware of the show fairly quickly, and then be constantly reminded of its existence via an unrelenting bombardment of television commercials, movie trailers, billboards, etc. But nowadays, fewer and fewer people (particularly younger people with Disney+ subscriptions) watch cable television or go to the movie theatre, choosing instead to watch things on YouTube or other online platforms. Of course, these streaming video platforms do embed video advertisements in their content, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen an ad for Skeleton Crew. Perhaps there are fewer vectors available to advertisers nowadays to cost-effectively spread awareness among target audiences than there was in the past. Or perhaps the target audiences are scattered across too many different online platforms, making it difficult to cost-effectively reach them, unlike 20 years ago when everyone was watching the same television networks and seeing the same movies in theaters. This problem is probably further exacerbated by the niche premise of Skeleton Crew and the fact that its title lacks any connection to the Star Wars IP. Of course, if you already subscribe to Disney+ you’ll see new shows advertised on the home screen, but if you don’t already have Disney+ you might never become aware of new shows.

Personally, I was aware of Skeleton Crew and its Goonies-inspired premise months ago, and I subscribe to Disney+. But I still haven’t watched any episodes. I’m not even sure why. The limited promotional material and positive reviews I’ve seen simply haven’t sufficiently motivated me to actually go watch it, even though I (perhaps hypocritically) really do want to encourage the production of original shows like this that take creative risks with the Star Wars IP. That’s how you get really outstanding stuff like Andor.

Negativity always generates more discussion than positivity. There’s only so many ways you can say you liked something, but there’s certainly plenty of ways to express how much you hate something…

The finale was pretty damn good, I must say

Another great episode (again). Very excited for the finale.

I assume the owl lady from episode 3 is gonna be brought into the finale as a Deus ex machina, of sorts.

Servii said:

Luke already had imperfections and depth. There’s been this narrative thrown around that OT Luke was a generic, one-dimensional character and that The Last Jedi “fixed” him by making him more “realistic.”

That’s just untrue. It didn’t make him more realistic. It just made him an asshole, and essentially just a completely different character. The only scene where TLJ Luke even acts like Luke is when he says goodbye to Leia. Outside of that scene, it just comes off as a different character who also happens to be played by Mark Hamill.

And we all already know that the writers will never drag Rey through the mud like they did to Luke. They would never give her the same treatment, because they want her to be a role model for girls, and role models for girls aren’t allowed to fail or have crippling flaws like that. Like I said before, they’re too caught up in optics to tell an interesting story.

If I’m somehow proven wrong, and they actually do give Rey the same treatment, I’ll eat my shoe.

People change over 30 years. That said, I at least agree that Luke is NOT a one-dimensional character in the OT. Quite the opposite, in fact.

This show has really grown on me. It’s easily my favorite out of all of the live-action shows now!

Anjohan said:

Jedi Matt said:

I personally wouldn’t mind seeing Daisey Ridley reprise the role of Rey in the future. I’m not sure how it could happen with all the on again, off again revolving door action going on at Disney HQ. Who knows what will happen? I’m not even sure the Disney Execs know. I guess time will tell.

The entire point of leaking development news was probably to test the waters for a Rey movie. Since the hype died after one day they probably settled on only having her appear as cameo’s or in a “main” line of films and/or TV shows rather than her own standalone. A correct choice indeed, in a disney world of bad ones.

“This will begin to make things right”.

They need to focus on original stuff. Mando and Grogu (just delete most of the connection to season 3), and the other two that worked (haven’t seen Andor or Skeleton’s Crew but I know they’ve performed well and are well-liked).

Disney officially now stepping out of gender politics and reshaping Disney behind the scenes will save Star Wars and soon we will have quality again. Oh - and give Obi-Wan and Anakin/Vader two seperate show’s to remedy the mistakes of Obi-Wan Series, with a proper budget and a couple of Andor’s quality writers.

So having all the main characters be men instead of women is “stepping out of gender politics”?

Anyways, Sneider says Daisy specifically will be in Levy’s movie, so I guess that means they’ll use makeup to make her look older (as I was hoping). He also says Levy’s and Mangold’s movies will both film late next year, if all goes well.

Starting to think that kinberg’s trilogy takes place after levy’s movie actually.

What’s interesting is that a movie called The Return was just released which adapts the final part of The Odyssey, where Odysseus returns home after 20 years and has to win his wife back. As I understand it, that movie doesn’t adapt any of the supernatural elements, but it sounds like Nolan’s will. That said, since Nolan loves telling stories out of order, I bet he will still start the movie with Odysseus returning home, and have most of the adventure stuff told through flashbacks, with Odysseus acting as an “unreliable narrator,” of sorts.

It’s been confirmed now that Chris Nolan’s next movie is a direct adaptation of Homer’s “The Odyssey.”

Cast includes Matt Damon, Tom Holland, Zendaya, Anne Hathaway, Lupita Nyong’o, Robert Pattinson, and Charlize Theron.

Discuss.

The first three episodes had a “maybe this shoulda been a movie instead” vibe to me, but now with this fourth episode, I’m starting to see how the show can work as a show. If the rest of the episodes are this good, this’ll go way up in the ranking for me.

Sounds like the Sharmeen movie and Kinberg trilogy might both get shelved for now anyways, and Levy’s movie might happen first now. If rumors are to be believed, Levy’s takes place far in the future and features Rey as an old lady. That’s probably the better route to go, at this point. Skip all the “rebuild the Jedi” stuff and have them back in full force (no pun intended).

Rebel Force Radio is corroborating Sneider’s scoop that Kasdan is the new writer of the Sharmeen movie.

Fang Zei said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Pulled from 2026 Christmas release is un-freakin believable.

It really isn’t, though.

Dune: Messiah is also set for that same date.

The irony of all of this to me is that we went from five movies that got rushed through production to five years of streaming shows without a single new theatrical film. Now the first one we actually get won’t be any of the originally announced projects but a continuation of one of the shows.

Maybe this is actually a good thing, since this way there’s less of a chance they rush unfinished scripts before the camera.

My thoughts exactly.

Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

Rumor has it that Lawrence Kasdan is gonna be the new writer of this.

Where did you hear this?

Jeff Sneider

Rumor has it that Lawrence Kasdan is gonna be the new writer of this.

Yeah, it leaked early to the trades. No official announcement (yet).

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/star-wars-rey-movie-simon-kinberg-1236059786/

^this article basically confirms that Disney want to do more stuff with Rey but don’t exactly know what direction to go in.

Superweapon VII said:

Do the unmade SW films outnumber the made ones yet?

Let’s see!

Canceled films: Kevin Feige spy thriller, Rian Johnson trilogy (though Rian did say he might still end up doing a show instead). I’m not counting Obi-Wan or Boba Fett cause those ended up being shows anyways.

Films currently in development: Obaid-Chinoy movie (Episode 9.5), Waititi movie, Mangold movie (Jedi Prime story that the GoT guys were originally gonna do), Jenkins movie (Rogue Squadron), Filoni movie (Heir to the Empire), Glover movie (Lando), Kinberg trilogy (Episodes 10-12), Levy movie (old lady Rey).

So in total, we have this:

Theatrically-released Star Wars films: 15 (I’m counting TCW08 and Mando & Grogu since it’s already been filmed, and also counting the Ewok films since they were released theatrically outside the US)

Movies still in development or canceled: 14

Close!

EDIT: also forgot about the Droid and Wookiee movies that Lucas thought about doing way back in the day. Do those count?

Filming has been completed:

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-the-mandalorian-and-grogu-filming-complete/

For what it’s worth tho, Daisy just did another interview today and says everything is fine and she’s “looking forward to the next stage of development.” So maybe they’re keeping knight’s draft and just hiring someone else to tweak it.

Raiders

Not really a movie, but I just watched the new South Park special “The End of Obesity” and really enjoyed it.

Updated Top 10 for the year (I think this is how it’s gonna stay now):

1.Dune: Part Two
2.Alien: Romulus
3.Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
4.Inside Out 2
5.Civil War
6.Young Woman and the Sea
7.South Park: The End of Obesity
8.Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
9.Drive-Away Dolls
10.Megalopolis (so bad that it’s good)

I purposefully omitted superhero films this time. Getting sick of superheroes.

Spartacus01 said:

Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

Why the change?

'Cause he watched The Acolyte, probably.

Sadly, kinda, yeah…

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

I’m starting to have second thoughts about Megalopolis again. I think I’m gonna take it off my Top 10 for the year, and put Kung Fu Panda 4 back.

Was gonna listen to an album or two today, but then SESAC banned most of my favorite artists from YouTube here in America. Oh well…