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SparkySywer said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Wexter said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

The PT & ST reflect each other perfectly — equally terrible in diametrically polar ways.

Is this really an unpopular opinion? Thought it was cannon…

From what I’ve seen, most fans love one trilogy, loathe the other, or enjoy both. Fans who dislike both trilogies seem to be in the minority.

I don’t think fans who dislike both trilogies are so rare, moreso that they end up picking one side or the other on the internet.

I find that fans like me, who like to point out the flaws of the OT (mainly ESB and RotJ) are even more in the minority.

EDIT: Meant to quote Duracell there. My bad.

I’ve already posted this elsewhere on this forum, but I guess I might as well share it again on this thread specifically cause it fits the topic at hand:

I recently wrote a four-part blog post explaining why I think ESB was really the movie where Star Wars “broke.”

You can read Part 1 here (each part ends with a link to the next part): https://henrynsilva.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-real-reason-you-probably-dont-like.html?m=1

Didn’t like the directing style of this episode. Apparently James Mangold was originally supposed to direct this one, but had to drop out at the last minute to focus on writing for Indiana Jones 5 (lol!). So Robert Rodriguez replaced him at the last minute, and it shows. Directing felt very haphazard. Writing was good tho! Still looking forward to the next episode.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Dek Rollins said:

I don’t think DE was implying that it isn’t something that exists. I think he was voicing disgust at the idea that such a thing does exist and that it’s being referenced on this message board.

This. Absolutely this.

Power creep like this is why I’ve come to hate telekinesis, Force lightning, and the other unsubtle Force abilities.

Yeah I mentioned on my blog that I don’t like how ESB turned the force into an excuse for “super powers,” and those powers have only been getting worse and worse ever since…

timdiggerm said:

I suspect that the Thrawn mention will come into play next season. Wouldn’t surprise me if we don’t see Ahsoka again until then.

Upon reflection, I was really impressed how this episode felt like every kind of Star Wars coming together in a unified whole and not feeling disjointed. PT (Clone Wars, Corouscant), OT (Yoda, explaining the Force, McQuarrie-ism), ST (the village, the guards), cartoons (Ahsoka, Thrawn), and EU (Thrawn, imperial remnants, Tython): it all felt like it belonged together.

Will be interesting to see how and when they get to Tython, and how that affects the show. It’s a Core World iirc, and this show has been very based in one corner of the Outer Rim. If we assume that S2 will conclude with dark troopers & Gideon, possibly with a kidnapping Grogu cliffhanger, then S3 is set up for traveling to Tython.

How did the village and the guards remind you of the ST exactly? Just outta curiosity.

Couple of things I forgot to mention before:

1.Always great to see Michael Biehn getting work in Hollywood still!

2.It’s cool how this season has so many references to the Old Republic video games (the Krait Dragon battle, droids that look like HK47, the planet Tython, etc.).

Finally got around to seeing the full episode. Overall I liked it. Rosario did a great job as Ahsoka, and Filoni seems to be getting better at directing live-action, tho I did notice a few weird editing moments, and also the yellow tint on this planet was weird. Maybe yellow lighting somehow works better for live-action Ahsoka? Idk. Also I think it’s weird that now they’re saying Baby Yoda (Grogu) was on coruscant during the clone wars and we never saw him. I’m kinda getting tired of starwars doing retcons like that, but oh well. It’ll be interesting to see where this all goes.

Shopping Maul said:

rocknroll41 said:

I just wrote a four-part blog series about how I think ESB is overrated. You can read part 1 here if you want (each part ends with a link to the next one): https://henrynsilva.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-real-reason-you-probably-dont-like.html?m=1

Really enjoyed your blog - thanks! I pretty much agree with everything you said - I guess where we part company is that I’m in that Harry Potter camp you described. I was 8 years-old when SW came out and 14 for ROTJ, so you can see why I’d be of a ‘grow with the audience’ mindset. In fact when my wife introduced me to Harry Potter, and we got to the final instalments, I was like “that right there is what Lucas should’ve done!”. So yes, I maintain that TESB is the best SW film (from my certain point of view) even as I agree with 98% of what you said. Thanks for a great read!

Thanks! Glad you liked what I had to say 😃 even if you didn’t agree with everything. To each their own! I wish more of the fanbase was better at “agreeing to disagree” like this.

I just wrote a four-part blog series about how I think ESB is overrated. You can read part 1 here if you want (each part ends with a link to the next one): https://henrynsilva.blogspot.com/2020/11/the-real-reason-you-probably-dont-like.html?m=1

Not a big fan of RotJ, but I don’t hate it either. It’s just okay, imo. Then again, that’s how I feel about all of these movies apart from sw77.

To answer the OP: Yea. As a matter of fact, he probably should’ve already been gone by ESB. He doesn’t really do much, as cool as he is…

Just saw the newest episode. Wonderful! Best episode of the entire show so far, for me. Bo-Katan looked perfect in live action! My guess is that after Mando finally delivers Baby Yoda to Asohka he will shift his focus on helping Bo Katan take back Mandalore.

dgraham414 said:

Was that Boba show confirmed? It honestly just looked like it was running around the different parts of the internet notorious for non-sense

It was reported by Deadline, which I coulda sworn was a credible source, but maybe it was misinformation, idk.

Theory time: The other “mandalorians” that the frog lady’s husband claimed to have seen are actually Sabine and Rex.

Theory 2: Mando learns (probably through Sabine) that not all Mandalorian sects keep their armor on 24/7 and that the armor shouldn’t define them. Then at the end of the season Boba catches up to him and explains the sentimental value of his armor (since it used to belong to his dead dad and whatnot), and then Mando gives it back to him, which would be a solid setup for the Boba show that was recently confirmed.

EDIT: Ah wait I forgot that Bo-Katan is already confirmed for the show too. Add her to my theory above.

The budget this season is definitely WAY bigger than season 1, but I kinda feel like it’s taking some of the “charm” away from the show.

Just saw the new episode. Not bad… But I have a couple of issues with it:

1.I didn’t like the gag of Baby Yoda eating the eggs throughout the entire episode

2.That giant white spider design (which is based on old ralph mcquarie concept art btw!) was already used the Rebels cartoon show for a completely different planet

This was actually my favorite episode of the whole show so far!

Yeah Luke and Leia being related is one of the retcons that irritates me the most.

While the fact that Rey’s origin kept changing throughout production is weird, I find it funny that most people in the reddit/YouTube sphere seem to be ignoring the fact that all of starwars has practically been BUILT on retcons and the idea of “making it up as you go along.”

One can’t help but wonder what the fandom would be like now had we gotten Splinter instead of Empire as the sequel to Star Wars. Sure, maybe there wouldn’t be as much fans or as much passion, and maybe the movies wouldn’t feel as “grand” as they do now, but it sounds like things wouldn’t have been so “retconny” had the series stuck more closely to its “pulp serial” roots.

Everyone is to blame imo, and yet, nobody is to blame, cause the franchise had evolved into such a warped, twisted version of itself long before TRoS. So any “ending” was gonna be messy and divisive no matter what.

Anakin Starkiller said:

That’s #4.
…or 5, or 1, all depending how ya look at it. Japan had a different SMB2 than the rest of the world, so there’s 2 SMB2’s. The original Japanese title is SMB4: Super Mario World. But, as it’s just SMW everywhere else, it could be considered part 1 of it’s own thing.

I’d argue Lost Levels doesn’t count cuz it’s just a glorified level pack, and SMB2 USA doesn’t count because the gameplay is radically different. That leaves 1, 3, and 4 (World in the West).

it would say Zelda 3: A Link to the past, and Metroid 3: Super Metroid if this thread were about video games. or even Final Fantasy III SNES US, which was actually FF VI. There is also Mega Man III and Castlevania III.

This is supposed to be about third entries in trilogies, not in general. Otherwise people are gonna start listing things like Prisoner of Azkaban. The idea here is to see whether or not it’s possible for a trilogy to stick the landing.

A Link to the Past is about a completely different set of characters from the NES games and is set long before, with many games in between. There aren’t particularly strong gameplay links (ha) either. The others are just entries in iterative series, AFAIK.

Return of the King
Tot Story 3
BttF 3 (not as good as 1 but better than 2)
Infinity War
Prisoner of Azkaban

Well there we go. Listing third entries that aren’t a part of trilogies.

Sorry for misunderstanding the objective. I would say RotK stuck the landing as a third entry, and BttF3 did the best it could coming off of BttF2. Toy Story 3 worked beautifully as a trilogy-ender, until they ruined it with the fourth one.

dahmage said:

i doubt any plans involve ‘lets stop making money here’

None of the sequels are really all that “filmmable,” though. They’d almost be better off making up their own storylines, if they really wanted to continue this as a long-lasting movie franchise.

I just saw it the other day. I didn’t think I liked it at first, but then I slept on it for a few days and started to understand the story better, so now the film has grown on me a lot.

Theater was completely empty apart from me and two friends. Not only was it opening weekend of the film (and a holiday weekend, at that) but we are in an area with low covid numbers… I don’t expect the theater industry to last now.

As far as SPOILERS go:

I like the theory that Neil is really Kat’s son from the future. Kinda wish the film would’ve hinted at that more.

Top 10 Favorite Films:
Tommy Wiseau’s The Room
Office Space
Aliens
Logan
Pulp Fiction
Back to the Future
Midnight in Paris
Star Wars 1977
The Shining
Rear Window

Top 10 Least Favorite Films:
Boyhood
Yesterday
Batman v. Superman
Suicide Squad
The Dark Knight Rises
Age of Ultron
Lady in the Water
The Happening
After Earth
The Last Airbender
…Anyone see some patterns, here?

My Top 5:

Return of the King
Tot Story 3
BttF 3 (not as good as 1 but better than 2)
Infinity War
Prisoner of Azkaban

Most sequels aren’t good tho (let alone threequels).

JadedSkywalker said:

The trailer looks like a science fiction epic. I hope the film does better than Blade Runner 2049, it would be nice to get sequels.

This movie is only adapting the first half of the first book. The plan is to make one more movie that adapts the second half, and then stop there.