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#1320447
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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yotsuya said:

rocknroll41 said:

Now that I’ve had even more time to digest the leaked details from Colin’s script, I gotta admit that I’m finding more and more things that I like, mainly with Finn’s arc. Some sorta combo between Colin’s version and JJ’s would’ve been the ideal. Ultimately tho, if I had to pick just one version, I still prefer the movie we got.

That being said, I recall thinking back in the day that the ideal endpoint for Episode 9 would be for Rey to create a new order that merges light and dark, cause I couldn’t think of any other way to make this new trilogy feel “important” with respect to the rest of the saga. However, having now actually seen the movie, I think that by bringing back Palpatine and implying through Anakin’s one line that the prophecy is a cyclical thing that’s destined to keep repeating, JJ found a more fitting way to give this trilogy a sense of “importance” when put alongside the other movies.

In a weird sorta way, I think Colin’s version is the more fitting end to this trilogy specifically, while JJ’s version is a more fitting end to the saga as a whole. And personally, I think the latter is the more important in the grand scheme of things.

I think Rey’s yellow saber really implies she is going to go forward with a more balanced order. I think that Yoda training Luke and Rey training herself from the most ancient texts (from when there was balance) gives us a difference. Anakin was supposed to balance the force and he sort of did, but left his Jedi trained son to carry on and this time we got a different ending that brings better balance. Plus after ROTJ, someone helped Palaptine survive so we have to face him again (a very mythic redo to the previous defeat).

This is a really cool perspective that I hadn’t considered before! Appreciate the insight 😃

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#1320418
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Now that I’ve had even more time to digest the leaked details from Colin’s script, I gotta admit that I’m finding more and more things that I like, mainly with Finn’s arc. Some sorta combo between Colin’s version and JJ’s would’ve been the ideal. Ultimately tho, if I had to pick just one version, I still prefer the movie we got.

That being said, I recall thinking back in the day that the ideal endpoint for Episode 9 would be for Rey to create a new order that merges light and dark, cause I couldn’t think of any other way to make this new trilogy feel “important” with respect to the rest of the saga. However, having now actually seen the movie, I think that by bringing back Palpatine and implying through Anakin’s one line that the prophecy is a cyclical thing that’s destined to keep repeating, JJ found a more fitting way to give this trilogy a sense of “importance” when put alongside the other movies.

In a weird sorta way, I think Colin’s version is the more fitting end to this trilogy specifically, while JJ’s version is a more fitting end to the saga as a whole. And personally, I think the latter is the more important in the grand scheme of things.

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#1319981
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I’ve been reading some more details regarding the leaked draft (which I now see is being reported on by credible sources as being real). I’m starting to warm up to it, and can even see why CT and DC still got writing credit (mustafar sequence, etc.), but overall, I still prefer the movie we actually got by a landslide!

Don’t get me wrong, there are some thing from this draft I do actually prefer (double-bladed blue saber, etc.), but there are still just too many things I don’t like at all (damarey, monster-face kylo, etc.).

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#1319903
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Just read the new alleged Collin Trevorrow script details from RMB’s “part 2” video (for context, RMB is the guy who also “leaked” the proposed Collin script details the other day).

Wow, that script sounds really, REALLY bad! Luke’s ghost disowning Kylo (“you’re no Skywalker”)? Rey becoming blind? Damerey? Rey being rewarded (seemingly) for becoming a “grey” Jedi? Hux stabbing himself with a lightsaber cause he can’t feel the force?

This is all way too dark and/or random for a finale starwars movie. I’m seriously having a hard believing any of this is real.

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#1318970
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<em>The Mandalorian</em> - Season One Discussion - * <strong>SPOILER THREAD</strong> *
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Finally got around to watching the finale. Loved it! Easily my favorite of the whole season. Put a smile on my face so many times!

This whole show is great! It’s the best thing since Empire, and the future of Starwars!

Here’s my ranking of all the season 1 episodes:

GREAT

1.The Redemption (Chapter 8)

2.The Sin (Chapter 3)

3.The Child (Chapter 2)

4.The Mandalorian (Chapter 1)

5.The Reckoning (Chapter 7)

GOOD

6.The Sanctuary (Chapter 4)

7.The Prisoner (Chapter 6)

FINE

8.The Gunslinger (Chapter 5)

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#1315020
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The Machete Order Revised
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1.Original Trilogy
-Star Wars 1977
-The Empire Strikes Back
-Return of the Jedi

2.Sequel Trilogy
-The Force Awakens
-The Last Jedi
-The Rise of Skywalker

3.”Flashback” Trilogy
-Revenge of the Sith
-Solo
-Rogue One

Bookending with Star Wars 1977 and Rogue One is essential, imo.

EDIT: is there a reason why this thread was moved to the EU section? I feel like it’d fit better in the Beyond The OT section, but that’s just me.

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#1314484
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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Rodney-2187 said:

Dec 20 - Friday - $89,615,288
Dec 21 - Saturday - $47,467,565
Dec 22 - Sunday - $40,301,011
Dec 23 - Monday - $29,389,847

= $206,773,711 domestic total

$226,766,916 international total

= $433,540,627 worldwide total

According to Wikipedia it’s actually at $516 million worldwide now. I guess they’re already factoring in estimates for Christmas Day.

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#1313902
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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Thanks to everyone congratulating me for winning the OW prediction!

While on one hand it feels cool that I got it right, on the other hand, I’m sad that the OW ended up being so low. I actually wanted this movie to do just as well as the other two. I really did! Especially after seeing it, cause I ended up liking it quite a bit! But, deep down, no matter how good or bad the movie could be, I just KNEW it wasn’t gonna do as well as the other two. The momentum just wasn’t there. 😕

Oh well. At least I still got something out of it, I guess! 😄

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#1313090
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations - <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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Variety is now saying the domestic weekend total is $176 million:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/12/22/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-has-176-million-opening-weekend.html

My prediction was $175 million, so I guess I was closest.

Do I win anything?

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#1312268
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — * <strong>SPOILERS</strong> *
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Back from the theater. The “Star Wars fan” part of my brain loved it! However, the “movie analysis” part of my brain didn’t like it at all. With that being said, I didn’t need this to be a good “movie.” I just needed it to be a good Star Wars. So (overall) I’m happy, and I’m (mostly) at peace with the saga.

I don’t quite know how to explain this but, even though I know this movie is objectively bad, something about it just “felt” right to me. It really left me on Cloud 9!

ill give more thoughts and a ranking in the spoiler thread, once I’ve had time to process it more.

Also, just wanted to add that I’m happy the audience score on RT is high! A nice reversal from TLJ!

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#1312266
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
Time

I just saw the new one, so I’m still on Cloud 9. Seeing it again on Saturday. Will have a better idea of where I rank it alongside the others then, but for now, I’d say:

GREAT
1.A New Hope 10/10
2.The Empire Strikes Back 10/10

GOOD
3.Return of the Jedi 9/10

FINE
4.The Rise of Skywalker 8/10
5.Solo 8/10
6.The Force Awakens 8/10
7.Revenge of the Sith 7/10
8.The Phantom Menace 7/10
9.Rogue One 7/10
10.The Last Jedi 7/10

BAD
11.Attack of the Clones 5/10

On paper, TRoS is dumb, but in execution, you can “feel” the heart that it has.