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#206894
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Brilliant Article about 'white guilt'
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206894/action/topic#206894
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
That view is a bit out there to say the least.

Socialism may be 'fair', but it is not right. Rightness is different than fairness, which I would define as everyone being equal. If everyone is equal economically [except the leaders, of course!] then there is no incentive to do anything. Why should any person do their best when someone else who is slacking off is just as well off as them?

It doesn't matter who runs it; socialism is inherently flawed in that it punishes creativity and hard work and rewards laziness.


I belive my favorite definition of socialism comes from an episode of The Simpsons, in which a teacher - I belive it was a ballet teacher or something, I've seen this episode only once - says to the class, answering Lisa's comment about something:

"Class, what do we call giving equal rights to different people?"

And the whole class of girls: "Socialism!"
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#206277
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IT HAS FINALLY HAPPENED
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206277/action/topic#206277
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Originally posted by: Number20
I feel like the end of ROTJ, with Yub Nub playing and Rebels and Ewoks celebrating...


LOL, I was just watching the '97 SE of ROTJ today and I was clamouring for that song at the end. Just to see Sebastian Shaw smiling back at me though was enough for me.

But tonight, I had an orgasm after reading that announcement. I feel a peace inside me - like a warm orb in my centre.


* Yub Nub playing, people celebrating *

So I get out of the celebration, and look to the side, and there is Alec Guiness smiling at me, and Sebastian Shawn, finally back to the movie... And since Frank Oz is not dead yet, there's Richard Nixon there too, smiling, dressed as a Jedi.
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#205959
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Any truth to this? Lucas is releasing the three unaltered ORIGINAL Star Wars films?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205959/action/topic#205959
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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
http://www.starwars.com/episode-iv/release/video/news20060503.html

There it is. The real.

wow. So now what happens


WHAT... THE... F(bleep)K?!

*sigh* OK so I guess the petition is off then, eh? Well, Jay, you made it! It was nice knowing you guys, goodbye!



No, seriously, that caught me off-guard... I still cannot belive this...
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#205953
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Brilliant Article about 'white guilt'
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205953/action/topic#205953
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
There are too many people who believe more government interference and shared destitution are the answer. We'll be almost 100% socialist by the time I retire in 30 years.


Socialism is good if you don't want to get ahead in life.


Socialism is the best system, theorically. Unfortunally, people are greedy assholes who won't let it work.
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#205823
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Brilliant Article about 'white guilt'
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205823/action/topic#205823
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That was a touching story, Rikter, and I feel I don't need to add up anything to it. Anything. Your words pretty much say it all.

About the other things:

Originally posted by: JediSage
The white race is hardly the only imperialistic one...unless you believe that Spanish and Portuguese were spoken in two parts of the world seperated by thousands of miles by coincidence.


Exactly what I said. I mean, Japan has done some horrible things, Nankin Massacre anyone? Spain, Portugal has done horrible things over here, America itself which requires no explanations or examples (not considering it to be one "white" race), Britain massacring people in India and selling opium in China by the Queen's orders, all imperialistic evil places that have gathered a colective guilt, not realted to race.

But Rikter nailed it, Geneva Convention, war protocols, you know? Mere ethics. Those sometimes are thrown down the window, ooops, Mi Lai incident in 'Nan, oh let's just forget that shall we, pretend never happened. But it's all for a greater good, right? I mean, what is better? What is more effective? Bombing the hell out of a third world country, or keeping then poor by imposing a brutal economic policy to them?

One thing that Rikter said, that I find to be the most hilarious term, is "conscientious objector". Dosen't that imply that people who are against the war are sistematically wrong?
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#205668
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Brilliant Article about 'white guilt'
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205668/action/topic#205668
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I found the term "minimalistic war" very amusing. As if there was a maximized war and a controlled, low-key war.

Now, I disagree with Mrs. (or Miss) Shelby Steele here. It's not white guilt. It's imperialistic guilt. Race has nothing to do with it. Nothing. You can't blame the blind anti-americanism now present over the world due to race, but due to imperialistic actions.

*sigh* But oh well, I am so sure everyone will oppose my point of view here, I'll not waste everyone's time talking about the subject.
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#205558
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Flight 93
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205558/action/topic#205558
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Oh I just love when we discuss to the point where I have to edit those quote tags...

Originally posted by: Warbler
Originally posted by: ricarleite
Well, the relatives might have been bri... I mean, convinced to allow the movie to take place, ..

Ric, do you have and proof that the relatives were bribed? I find it difficult to believe that the family would be able to be bribed. To jump to that conclusion, insults thefamily members as well as those that died on the plane. If a family member of yours died on a plane that, could you be bribed to aprove a movie about it?


I shouldn't have said it this way. Sorry. But I mean, they were offered money, right?

Originally posted by: Warbler

Originally posted by: ricarleite
but my point of view is, I would not like to have a movie made out of my last moments of life, as a fiction, a made-up fiction on how I acted at that moment, for PROFIT


Why do you keep calling it fiction? Do you not believe that the events actually happened? True, no one knows exactly what happened, but we do have the final phones calls to the family members. We know the plane was taken over by Hijackers and that it crashed in the ground in the middle of PA. I doubt that PA was the intended target. Add the facts together and we can conclude the People on the plane attempted to retake the plane and in the process, the plane crashed. Also I have seen the movie, a good portion of the moive was spent on depicting events in the control towers. Those parts were not fiction.


No, forget the whole 9-11 thing, I am not talking about that. If this happened in a different circustance, I would have said the same. All I'm saying is, that is fiction because the dialogue and actions taken are made up, they don't know exactly what happened. It's made to be a disaster flick, it's like Airplane '77, but taking real people and making up dialogue to conduct the plot dramatically.

Originally posted by: Warbler


Originally posted by: ricarleite
. OK, let's make a movie of people jumping out of the WTC, complete with funny cartoon sound effects. Not so great, eh? Same thing to me.


There are no funny sound effects, no over dramatization. Nothing cheap or stupit or over the top. No catchy dramatic theme song. No spectacular stunts or special effects or fake look cgi. It was a very serious movie. I find it difficult to compare it with movie depicting the people jumping out of the WTC using cartoon sound effects. And how can you say they are the same thing when you have called Flight 93 a fiction, and clearly the people jumping out of the WTC is not?


Ric, have seen Titanic? How about Pearl Harbor? Do you refuse to see them as well? Those movie are more fictionalized that this. They did not add a fictional romance in Flight 93 for example.


If the movie keeps a serious tone, like a... dramatized documentary, it dosen't sound as creepy and disrespectful as it did when I first saw the teaser trailer at... Memoirs of a Geisha if I'm not mistaken. I am comparing both this way because both envolved loss of innocent lifes.

Both films used fictional characters. I found the movie "Alive" to be VERY disrespectful as well, even though most of them survived.

And ok, maybe it's because it happened recently. If someone asked me to allow for a relative to be a character on such a movie, I would not allow. If this happened to me, I would be one pissed off angry ghost if they did a character out of me. I might be overreacting and twisting thing a little bit here, I agree, but why am I the only one shocked by the porpouse of this film?
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#205463
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Flight 93
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205463/action/topic#205463
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Well, the relatives might have been bri... I mean, convinced to allow the movie to take place, but my point of view is, I would not like to have a movie made out of my last moments of life, as a fiction, a made-up fiction on how I acted at that moment, for PROFIT. OK, let's make a movie of people jumping out of the WTC, complete with funny cartoon sound effects. Not so great, eh? Same thing to me.
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#205456
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Flight 93
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205456/action/topic#205456
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I belive it is quite inapropriated to make a fiction out of it. While something like, let's say, a war film, is acceptable because it either portrait real, documented events, or uses fictional characters, I belive it is VERY inapropriated to use those people for a movie, asuming what they must have done or acted. And do it for profit. I do not intend to watch it.