de-aging obi-wan?

Anjohan said:

Update

V2 is good and fine, but it was reported there’s a slight brightness-like render bug in the conversation with Haja and Obi-Wan. I’ll do a re-render tonight and upload and replace, so that whenever you want to watch the edit again you can have the bugfree version.

Thank you for all your positive feedback, and I’m soon done with the Credits.txt file (im at page 15 of this thread). Hopefully upload soon.

Rendering 1.5 as well?

scottkin said:

Have you seen the work of PixelJoker95 on Reddit? You should check it out.

I am planning on adding Pixel Joke’s effects to this for my own personal edit. The stuff he is has planned is unreal.

What scene are you using for an opening crawl?

Anjohan said:

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

revel911 said:

Did you see my comment Anjohan about how you can see Tala on the elevator?

Yes, I suppose you mean in the corridor as Obi-Wan escape the water, right? If so, there’s not much I can do. I mean, you can’t see it’s Tala for 1, and 2) It’s a huge blink and you miss it moment since the screen is filled with water splashes, shaky cam and fast movement.

I can try to mask her out, but the problem is the insane amount of water in the footage. I’ll see what I can do. It’s luckily nothing that break immersion and I don’t think anyone has spotted her except you (bastard!), but once you see it it can’t be unseen. I’ll see what I can do.

I was thinking you could grab the elevator doors have them close quicker.

I really don’t know which scene you are referring to. Could you give me a timestamp or explain further?

I just deleted v1 knowing v2 was coming. It’s the 2 seconds of take on the right side as Obiwan is running in the elevator and the elevator door is closing while the the water is coming. I was just wondering if the best way to rather than mask out, to mask new sliding elevator doors that cover Tala.

Anjohan said:

revel911 said:

Did you see my comment Anjohan about how you can see Tala on the elevator?

Yes, I suppose you mean in the corridor as Obi-Wan escape the water, right? If so, there’s not much I can do. I mean, you can’t see it’s Tala for 1, and 2) It’s a huge blink and you miss it moment since the screen is filled with water splashes, shaky cam and fast movement.

I can try to mask her out, but the problem is the insane amount of water in the footage. I’ll see what I can do. It’s luckily nothing that break immersion and I don’t think anyone has spotted her except you (bastard!), but once you see it it can’t be unseen. I’ll see what I can do.

I was thinking you could grab the elevator doors have them close quicker.

Did you see my comment Anjohan about how you can see Tala on the elevator?

Anjohan

Excited to see V2. I know it’s a pain, but hard to let something go until it’s finished. Been there.

• You can see Tala in the elevator when they are escaping, can you mask her out? She doesn’t come out of the elevator.
• I still am pushing for removing “Have you come to kill me?” line. I love the “I will do what I must” from Obiwan, but why would Vader say that when he was chasing Obi?
• Have you thought about an ending that doesn’t have Lars or Luke? Without the Reva scenes (which didn’t make sense anyways), this makes less sense. It also feels more canon for them not to connect based on “he’s a crazy old wizard” line from ANH.
• To the rescue, I would remove the elevator on the front half (since he goes into water) and put in the back half when they actually ride up the elevator.

Anjohan said:

PMs sent and responded to. Thank you for your kind words.

Update

Also, 5.1 done and released. Re-download if you want the full surround experience. Also cut Nari meeting Obi-Wan (on a second viewing I found his presence to ruin the pace and present more questions than answers).

Great, that was one of my 3 “wishes” I would change with the movie.

If you ever do a 1.1 version,

• I still feel the Vader line: “Have you come to destroy me?” an odd line since it was Vader who came after Obi-wan.
• Last change is that I would just remove Luke and Owen from the end. I like that you removed the Reva story, but keeping Owen feels an odd change of heart. I don’t even know if I would end with Qui Gon vs straight to credits after seeing Leia.

thevarsek said:

Anjohan said:

leftshoe18 said:

everbake said:
And when during the last fight scene when Vader puts Obi-Wan into the hole, have him say “Now I have the high ground”

That would be WAY too on the nose. I know Star Wars isn’t exactly known for its subtlety but that would be a little much IMO.

Yeah, nothing like that.

The ending is done and concluded for release. I think WE have a satisfactory solution (that keeps with canon).

Hey Anjohan, thanks a ton for working on this!! Will the link be made available on the first post? Or will you distribute by DM…? Sorry, I’m not familiar with how these edits are distributed 😃

Always during PMs.

Phase3 said:

For anyone who is going to do their own fan edit, I’ve made a simple new opening crawl, which I have sent to Anjohan, who has said to me that it’ll be included as a separate file for anyone who wishes to use it. 😃

I have done 3x opening crawls, and each crawl has a different movie title:
1a Kenobi.
1b Kenobi A Star Wars Story.
1c Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Please note that I’ve done these in the same style as the main movies Episodes I-VI, and not in the style seen in ‘Rogue One’ or the Kenobi TV series.
There is also a camera pan down to Tatooine, plus a ‘fan edit’ information screen and opening fanfare & title cards etc.

Cheers!

Why does it have to say Kenobi vs a more Star Wars like title?

everbake said:

Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but for Episode 6:

Right after Obi-wan undocks, have the other ship with Leia goes into hyperspace right away

And when during the last fight scene when Vader puts Obi-Wan into the hole, have him say “Now I have the high ground” maybe someone can make an “audio deep fake” using descript or altered.ai. You may be able to use this for extra lines for other characters like Haja.

It’s implied without said, that’s WAY better. This is a perfect example of “show, don’t tell.”

thevarsek said:

Really looking for a miracle here, but do you think there’s any way to have the elements from the article below incorporated? Perhaps with a clever use of the Reva flashback scenes?

The only thing would be to have Obi-wan tell her Anakin is Darth Vader, not sure if we have enough dialogue somewhere to construct that phrase? I have tools to change inflection of words, so perhaps there’s a franken-edit that could work.

https://thedirect.com/article/obi-wan-kenobi-reva-killed-script-exclusive

I would make immensely more sense to have Obi tell Reva that Darth Vader is Anakin, and her deciding to sacrifice herself to let them leave with the ship in ep. 5

I disagreed after episode 5 where Obi confronted on “how” she knew. To me that, that changed everything.

I love your edits Spence, excited.

Love the idea of more Qui Gon.

Doing Star Wars crawl? I know some want this and others don’t, I def do.

Anyone super good with blender on Unreal5 to make an elevator scene similar to this?

• a little slower
• goes down into greenish water
• elevator has doors like what we have seen in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYWnq_fnIBs&ab_channel=NickKinsman

Anjohan said:

The only way I could see the smoothening of that is to remove Haja going “You can trust me” and “Definitely”, and instead try to restructure it after Obi-Wan’s “Can I trust you?” to Haja looking at him, either concerned or thoughtful.

I like that a lot

Anjohan said:

NellsRelo said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

This is fantastic, it feels much less jarring, and the sense of movement imo helps sell Haja a bit better, since we don’t get the resolution to him considering betraying Obi-Wan with this cut. Spacing out the dialogue slightly through the establishing shots, like you’ve done here, mitigates the untrustworthiness in his delivery when Obi-Wan has him at blaster-point

Cheers, brother. This is how I feel as well. I’ll make the voiceover start a tad quicker tho as suggested above.

vranir said:

Maybe make the voiceover start earlier during the new shots. That will reduce the weirdness of the headset being used underwater.

Also consider cutting the line right afterwards about taking a short break. What kind of support takes a break during the middle of the dangerous operation?

Haja.

Hehe. Good suggestion.

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

Sorry we keep sticking on this one scene. 1. Love the elevator up front and the inclusion of command center screen. 2. I think I like the other elevator better, feels less “sci-if”. Did you try it recolored and in reverse? (It’s not bad, just missing that Star Wars “grit”)

I did try it, but 1: the shot is way too low res - and 2: it looks too fake imo.

If I could get a better quality version to work with, then perhaps!

Can you send me the link? I will throw through an upscaler to see what happens.

vranir said:

Maybe make the voiceover start earlier during the new shots. That will reduce the weirdness of the headset being used underwater.

Also consider cutting the line right afterwards about taking a short break. What kind of support takes a break during the middle of the dangerous operation?

^ this

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

Sorry we keep sticking on this one scene. 1. Love the elevator up front and the inclusion of command center screen. 2. I think I like the other elevator better, feels less “sci-if”. Did you try it recolored and in reverse? (It’s not bad, just missing that Star Wars “grit”)

leftshoe18 said:

Anjohan said:

Escape - Leia - New Test

https://streamable.com/hbebaz

Leia still feels obviously composited into the shot. I wonder how much of that is just me looking for it though. lol

Look for my last feedback which will explain why. TLDR: scaling of Leia starting too small.

DZ-330 said:

Just a shower thought…

Can Obi’s:
“Then my friend is truly dead. Goodbye, Darth.”

Be edited to:
“My friend is not dead. Goodbye, Darth”

This can help to explain why Obi leaves and does not kill him. It will also explain Vader’s line of “Obi-Wan once thought as you do” in ROTJ.

There is no perfect answer. He tells Luke that Anakin is dead so the dialogue works there. Dialogue doesn’t need to explain Obi leaving, he does not because that’s who he is.

GLogus said:

topdawg193 said:

If an edit was to be attempted that gave Obi-Wan a more explicit reason NOT to kill Vader; could Obi-Wan sensing Luke in danger not be used? Bring Obi-Wan’s visions of Luke’s peril further forward, so that he senses this soon after Vader is defeated and so rushes away more immediately after their duel? It would probably entail losing the “So long, Darth” line - which is shame!

But the whole drama with Luke is just so nonsensical and, arguably, canon-breaking. And Reva’s redemption for having spared Luke is unearned. None of it works, and I feel like it’s all more offensively bad than Obi-wan sparing Vader’s life—especially since it is conceivable that Obi-Wan would spare his life.

I agree I never want to see that half of Episode 6 ever again. It just does not make sense from a canonical POV.

Is the way it is now perfect, no … does it work, yeah.

evilash1 said:

Hi Anjohan,
the project looks very good.
First of all, sorry for my English, it is not my primary language.
For Leia’s escape I think a scene of some elevator to connect the underwater base with the surface drug lab would be appropriate.
This is just a test. Perhaps it is not the most appropriate elevator and not the best quality, but I think the scene flows better.
It’s just an idea.
https://streamable.com/98vp9i

I think the lighting needs to be changed to match (that greenish tint), but I like a lot to add that they are in an elevator. The question I have is does he do the elevator after he “steals the card” or before? I almost feel after. So elevator scene happens right before Leia and Obi come out on top.

I almost think that elevator in reverse at the opening with Haja over the communicator may be better as a transition from door to elevator to Obi in water. On the way out, we as an audience will automatically assume they use the same elevator out, so need to show again.

Anjohan, the movement and lighting in the new scene are both great. The issue with the Leia in your last scene is she just pops up. You are having a reverse perspective problem. Obiwan starts larger and gets smaller as he moves away. Leia pops up small and gets a little larger. I would match her to a relevant spot on Obi’s back so perspective stays more consistent. Otherwise, I am really being sold that she is with him which vastly helps the scene.

I watched your edit and while I wanted to love it:

• There is glow everywhere that sometimes becomes distracting when it goes over the main content (thinking of deathstar hallway scenes.)
• Your Saturation is at an 11. I saw this article. https://fotographee.com/hdr-mistakes/
  The points: Globally Saturated Color and Hyperdetailsm are big offenders here due to the high saturation and the high sharpening.