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#1495118
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Spence's Obi-Wan Kenobi (V3 Released)
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SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

It’s still there, but the focus of the first kidnapping is now more on it being Kenobi’s call to action. Because less emphasis is placed on the first one, the second one can feel like a bigger moment.

I know a lot of edits are cutting the fortress, but in my opinion that takes away too many important things. The fortress has Reva backstory, some great character moments for Leia and Tala, cool world building, and the pivotal moment where Kenobi reconnects with the Force in full. Plus it creates some logic gaps about the ship being tracked. It all doesn’t quite hold together without it, for me anyway.

The ship Being tracked never bothered me … in a new hope we never see a tracking device being put on.

That is the most minor of my issues with removing the fortress. It’s too damaging to the story and character arcs to lose it. Lots of edits are removing it, I would encourage you to seek those out.

I am def excited and hoping your edit proves me wrong. Episode 4 was just so happy hazard that it was hard to enjoy, but hoping your version cleans that up.

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#1495105
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Spence's Obi-Wan Kenobi (V3 Released)
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SpenceEdit said:

revel911 said:

Spence, I couldn’t find in your notes. How are you taking care of the “two kidnappings” issue?

It’s still there, but the focus of the first kidnapping is now more on it being Kenobi’s call to action. Because less emphasis is placed on the first one, the second one can feel like a bigger moment.

I know a lot of edits are cutting the fortress, but in my opinion that takes away too many important things. The fortress has Reva backstory, some great character moments for Leia and Tala, cool world building, and the pivotal moment where Kenobi reconnects with the Force in full. Plus it creates some logic gaps about the ship being tracked. It all doesn’t quite hold together without it, for me anyway.

The ship Being tracked never bothered me … in a new hope we never see a tracking device being put on.

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#1494189
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Anjohan said:

Update

V2 is good and fine, but it was reported there’s a slight brightness-like render bug in the conversation with Haja and Obi-Wan. I’ll do a re-render tonight and upload and replace, so that whenever you want to watch the edit again you can have the bugfree version.

Thank you for all your positive feedback, and I’m soon done with the Credits.txt file (im at page 15 of this thread). Hopefully upload soon.

Rendering 1.5 as well?

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#1493653
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Anjohan said:

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

revel911 said:

Did you see my comment Anjohan about how you can see Tala on the elevator?

Yes, I suppose you mean in the corridor as Obi-Wan escape the water, right? If so, there’s not much I can do. I mean, you can’t see it’s Tala for 1, and 2) It’s a huge blink and you miss it moment since the screen is filled with water splashes, shaky cam and fast movement.

I can try to mask her out, but the problem is the insane amount of water in the footage. I’ll see what I can do. It’s luckily nothing that break immersion and I don’t think anyone has spotted her except you (bastard!), but once you see it it can’t be unseen. I’ll see what I can do.

I was thinking you could grab the elevator doors have them close quicker.

I really don’t know which scene you are referring to. Could you give me a timestamp or explain further?

I just deleted v1 knowing v2 was coming. It’s the 2 seconds of take on the right side as Obiwan is running in the elevator and the elevator door is closing while the the water is coming. I was just wondering if the best way to rather than mask out, to mask new sliding elevator doors that cover Tala.

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#1493616
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Anjohan said:

revel911 said:

Did you see my comment Anjohan about how you can see Tala on the elevator?

Yes, I suppose you mean in the corridor as Obi-Wan escape the water, right? If so, there’s not much I can do. I mean, you can’t see it’s Tala for 1, and 2) It’s a huge blink and you miss it moment since the screen is filled with water splashes, shaky cam and fast movement.

I can try to mask her out, but the problem is the insane amount of water in the footage. I’ll see what I can do. It’s luckily nothing that break immersion and I don’t think anyone has spotted her except you (bastard!), but once you see it it can’t be unseen. I’ll see what I can do.

I was thinking you could grab the elevator doors have them close quicker.

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#1493270
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Anjohan

Excited to see V2. I know it’s a pain, but hard to let something go until it’s finished. Been there.

  • You can see Tala in the elevator when they are escaping, can you mask her out? She doesn’t come out of the elevator.
  • I still am pushing for removing “Have you come to kill me?” line. I love the “I will do what I must” from Obiwan, but why would Vader say that when he was chasing Obi?
  • Have you thought about an ending that doesn’t have Lars or Luke? Without the Reva scenes (which didn’t make sense anyways), this makes less sense. It also feels more canon for them not to connect based on “he’s a crazy old wizard” line from ANH.
  • To the rescue, I would remove the elevator on the front half (since he goes into water) and put in the back half when they actually ride up the elevator.
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#1492717
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Anjohan said:

PMs sent and responded to. Thank you for your kind words.

Update

Also, 5.1 done and released. Re-download if you want the full surround experience. Also cut Nari meeting Obi-Wan (on a second viewing I found his presence to ruin the pace and present more questions than answers).

Great, that was one of my 3 “wishes” I would change with the movie.

If you ever do a 1.1 version,

  • I still feel the Vader line: “Have you come to destroy me?” an odd line since it was Vader who came after Obi-wan.
  • Last change is that I would just remove Luke and Owen from the end. I like that you removed the Reva story, but keeping Owen feels an odd change of heart. I don’t even know if I would end with Qui Gon vs straight to credits after seeing Leia.
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#1492231
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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thevarsek said:

Anjohan said:

leftshoe18 said:

everbake said:
And when during the last fight scene when Vader puts Obi-Wan into the hole, have him say “Now I have the high ground”

That would be WAY too on the nose. I know Star Wars isn’t exactly known for its subtlety but that would be a little much IMO.

Yeah, nothing like that.

The ending is done and concluded for release. I think WE have a satisfactory solution (that keeps with canon).

Hey Anjohan, thanks a ton for working on this!! Will the link be made available on the first post? Or will you distribute by DM…? Sorry, I’m not familiar with how these edits are distributed 😃

Always during PMs.

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#1492036
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Phase3 said:

For anyone who is going to do their own fan edit, I’ve made a simple new opening crawl, which I have sent to Anjohan, who has said to me that it’ll be included as a separate file for anyone who wishes to use it. 😃

I have done 3x opening crawls, and each crawl has a different movie title:
1a Kenobi.
1b Kenobi A Star Wars Story.
1c Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Please note that I’ve done these in the same style as the main movies Episodes I-VI, and not in the style seen in ‘Rogue One’ or the Kenobi TV series.
There is also a camera pan down to Tatooine, plus a ‘fan edit’ information screen and opening fanfare & title cards etc.

Cheers!

Why does it have to say Kenobi vs a more Star Wars like title?

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#1491987
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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everbake said:

Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but for Episode 6:

Right after Obi-wan undocks, have the other ship with Leia goes into hyperspace right away

And when during the last fight scene when Vader puts Obi-Wan into the hole, have him say “Now I have the high ground” maybe someone can make an “audio deep fake” using descript or altered.ai. You may be able to use this for extra lines for other characters like Haja.

It’s implied without said, that’s WAY better. This is a perfect example of “show, don’t tell.”

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#1491739
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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thevarsek said:

Really looking for a miracle here, but do you think there’s any way to have the elements from the article below incorporated? Perhaps with a clever use of the Reva flashback scenes?

The only thing would be to have Obi-wan tell her Anakin is Darth Vader, not sure if we have enough dialogue somewhere to construct that phrase? I have tools to change inflection of words, so perhaps there’s a franken-edit that could work.

https://thedirect.com/article/obi-wan-kenobi-reva-killed-script-exclusive

I would make immensely more sense to have Obi tell Reva that Darth Vader is Anakin, and her deciding to sacrifice herself to let them leave with the ship in ep. 5

I disagreed after episode 5 where Obi confronted on “how” she knew. To me that, that changed everything.

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#1491400
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Anjohan said:

NellsRelo said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

This is fantastic, it feels much less jarring, and the sense of movement imo helps sell Haja a bit better, since we don’t get the resolution to him considering betraying Obi-Wan with this cut. Spacing out the dialogue slightly through the establishing shots, like you’ve done here, mitigates the untrustworthiness in his delivery when Obi-Wan has him at blaster-point

Cheers, brother. This is how I feel as well. I’ll make the voiceover start a tad quicker tho as suggested above.

vranir said:

Maybe make the voiceover start earlier during the new shots. That will reduce the weirdness of the headset being used underwater.

Also consider cutting the line right afterwards about taking a short break. What kind of support takes a break during the middle of the dangerous operation?

Haja.

Hehe. Good suggestion.

revel911 said:

Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

Sorry we keep sticking on this one scene. 1. Love the elevator up front and the inclusion of command center screen. 2. I think I like the other elevator better, feels less “sci-if”. Did you try it recolored and in reverse? (It’s not bad, just missing that Star Wars “grit”)

I did try it, but 1: the shot is way too low res - and 2: it looks too fake imo.

If I could get a better quality version to work with, then perhaps!

Can you send me the link? I will throw through an upscaler to see what happens.

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#1491389
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KENOBI: A STAR WARS STORY [The Radical "Help Me Obi-Wan Kenobi" Cut]
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Anjohan said:

So, I read all your brilliant feedback and decided to do another crack at the rescue entry:

https://streamable.com/psv9u3

(I’ll do some more recomposing on Leia now - glad to hear it’s very close to fully working for most)

Sorry we keep sticking on this one scene. 1. Love the elevator up front and the inclusion of command center screen. 2. I think I like the other elevator better, feels less “sci-if”. Did you try it recolored and in reverse? (It’s not bad, just missing that Star Wars “grit”)