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C3PX said:

One thing I have always liked about the EU, was being able to revisit the SW galaxy. For someone as obsessed with SW as I was during my childhood and up into my teens, three movies just wasn't enough. It was great to get to revisit the SW galaxy, to read further adventures of Luke and his friends. And even more fun for me, was seeing the galaxy from other perspectives, not just "Rebel vs Empire" from the films. Another great thing about the EU, is you can take it or leave it. There is such a massive amount of it, you inevitably end up with a lot of crap getting mixed in. In fact I'd say the vast majority of it is crap, but you don't have the read the parts you don't care for.

I have to agree, it is lame when they bring characters back from the dead. I hated Dark Empire and the clone Emperors. Of course, the idea of it is perfectly reasonable, when you consider the ability to clone exists. I suppose you can say that the only thing less likely than Palpatine making clones of himself, would be Palpatine not making clones of himself. Still, as a principal, I am against reviving main villians. Takes away from having killed them in the first place, and really cheapens the story.

Boba Fett's resurrection is less irksome to me,since we never actually see him die. The guy does have a jet pack on after all, if he falls into a pit, why the hell wouldn't he try to blast his way out? He also has a blaster and spiked boots, and who knows what other tools on him. Threepio clearly explained that it is a slow death.

 

I actually enjoyed books like Tales of the Bounty Hunters and  Tales from Mos Eisly. I know a lot of fans absolutely loathe things like this, because it takes every background character and gives them a name and a back story. To each their own, but it is actually kind of fun to read about what the four eyed fuzzy white guy and the short mouse alien were doing a few weeks before showing up in the Cantina the day Luke's aunt and uncle died. Most people say, "Why, what is the point? It is ridiculous!" well, I say, "Why not?" Personally, I'd rather read the adventures of the weird Werewolf guy and his small place in the vast universe, than constantly reread the storys of a handful of larger than life characters who are constantly saving the universe from impending doom. Honestly, most of these "tales of" stories are pretty worthless, unentertaining crap, but a few of them are enjoyable and lets you see the vast galaxy from the perspective of your average joe, as it were.

Two stories in the Tales of the Jedi that particularly stood out to me were the stories of Boba Fett and IG-88. I liked how the writer made Fett into a sort of Rorschach (now that most people here knows who that is) like character, with a strong sense of justice and who feels he has the right to bring judgment and violent death on those he finds unjust, only he does it for money, refusing to take jobs on people he finds inocent or not worthy of such a punishment, and taking great joy in eliminating the true scum of the galaxy. The first chapter describes Fett as an ugly young man, a soldier in the military, now in prison for having murdered his commanding officer, when ask if he regrets it, he replies with a very stern "no" because the guy deserved death. Makes Fett to be kind of a psychotic, but I liked that spin on his character.

The story of IG-88 was a lot of fun to. Very Terminatoresque as the books starts off with he becomming selfaware, and killing the people who were building him. He makes a lot of copies of himself, and they all work together in plotting galactic domination. A few of the copies are sent out to do bounty hunting, can't remember exactly why. Eventually in the story, IG-88 plants his conciousness into the Death Star II, and now has essentially become the DSII and is waiting for the Empire to wipe out the Rebels and get them out of the way, before he himself defeats the weakened Empire and makes his first move in conquering the galaxy. Unfortunately, against all odds the Rebels win, and ruin the poor guys plans. What a bunch of tripe! Right? Sure it is, but it is a lot of fun to read too! I certainly don't watch ROTJ thinking, "IG-88 has completely taken over the DSII's computer systems by this time" no, I don't consider any of it as a real part of the story at all, but it is very amusing, and that is what it is all about anyway.

 

 u basically just sumarized what i was thinking. i couldn't stop after episode III. there were so many gaps and i wanted to know what went on after Jedi. BTW, the tales of novels rock. i couldn't put them down, except for jabbas palace and mos esily cantina.

i love the series books they have, and like to read the stories that expand my mind beyond the star wars universe. the republic commando series has been my favorite.

Knightmessenger said:

I've been watching some of your updates on youtube and I'm pretty impressed as usual. And I got to see the entire Star Wars Revisited on youtube. It was interesting seeing my name in the credits, even though I don't remember giving any suggestions for that edit.

If you do the same thing with Empire, do you want our real names?

 download utorrent and search starwars revisited and u can have it for ur very own on ur computer or dvd if u choose to burn it.

i wasn't there in the 70's/80's, wish i was though. but i was wondering wat everybody's reaction was to darth vader revealing that he's lukes father? it was spoiled for me when i first saw ESB.

i think it was in family guy, one of the officers said to the commander after the death star blows up, "So were just gonna run?"

         "yea!"

"We still have more ships then them"

         "the empor is dead. we gotta run now"

i don't think that's exactly how it goes, but somewhere along those lines.

after that scene, i had a dream in was all finished. i can't remember it, but i was pissed when i woke up!

adywan said:

seven said:

Just a quick link

http://www.starwarz.com/modelshop/

he has a great site of how-to-build models. He also takes commissions if time, scale, and detail is a factor. I only mention it as Ady said he wanted to build several models for new shots. it might come in handy for scratch-building some models.

thanks for the link. a very interesting site.

Monroville said:

I guess one extra little bit to add:
on the very opening shot of the rebels outside the mountain hanger opening, the mountain is bluish compared to the white foreground.  I understand this is (1) the matte matching with the live-action shot and (2) a way of making the 2 stand out (though the mountain could be more whitish-grey than bluish), but also, there is a patch of white around the left gun tower.

i haven't done anything to that shot yet. i'm hoping to do a new digital matte

Sojourn said:

5) There appears to be something of a continuity error. At 00:31, when the shot changes, the crackling has pretty much subsided from the two blasts we see hit the SD in the first, frontal shot; but when it changes to the rear three-quarters view, there's some electricity going on the left side of the ship that wasn't there before the angle changed. Since there wasn't another blast coming, and the crackling down that side of the ship seemed to have subsided, the cut doesn't flow right, at least not to me. Perhaps continuing the electrical activity down that side a little longer in the first shot would fix this?

6) I like the flickering of the engine lights on the SD as it's going down, but they seem to be flickering in a pattern. It works, overall, but I found myself wondering whether they would do so in such an organized way, or if the flickering would be more random (I realize, however, that as the camera pans, the pattern allows for more engine flickering to be seen as the SD disappears offscreen).

I did fix that error that is in the original but me being too quick to get this clip finished & uploaded i omitted a few layers. the continuity will be correct in the final version

The flickering of the lights were like that in the original. there wasn't much i could do about that because it started to look odd when merged with the original elements.

Ganamae said:

1, Should there perhaps be some of ground activety when the transport and Xwings shoot up? like some small base or small ships or the ground? just a hint of something?

 

2, When the ION cannon controller keeps looking at her controll screen whilst waiting for the destroyer to get in range, shouls there perhaps be added soem animations to the screen? it looks abit inanimate.

1. These ships are pretty high up in this shot and the scale of everything wouldn't allow you to see anything on the ground. You definitely wouldn't see the hangar entrance or any ships on the ground.

2. this is another shot that i will be working on

Octorox said:

Awesome clip Ady. However, I feel that in the "first catch of the day" shot, Hoth should probably get bigger faster.

not really because  the ships are just in orbit at this stage. they are just waiting around in their various positions. speeding it up would make it look like they are racing towards the planet.

 

 

 

 

hey adywan, i was wondering if ur using any new music in any of the scenes. not PT music just stuff from the OT

Monroville said:

That.  Was.  Cool.

If that is any indication on the rest of it, the wait is just going to be that much harder.

 

U said it. damn u ady, u make this even harder! please hurry friend!

according to the EU, their were the remaining imperals that were still trying to win over planets from the rebels and

vice versa. they still had bases spread through out the galaxy and such. for about three decades the rebellion had to

work on keeping the imperials out. some imperials joined the rebellion. even so, there were still some hiding out

there.

Now, to put the arguing aside for a bit. Episode I and EPisode IV. Both skywalkers blow up deathstar/droid control ship. The main point of both movies was to just meet the characters who will be in the next two films of the OT and PT.

Episodes II and V, Both movies put the rebels/republic in a dark time. Only difference is u may notice it a little more in AOTC. Both contain love stories. Han and Leia/Anakin and Padme. Only difference is the acting. In both involves a jedi going on their own mission. Luke to daghobah and obi-wan to a series of planets to find the bounty hunter and eventually seperatists. Both skywalkers lost their limbs and end up getting robotic ones.

Episodes III and VI. Both movies have a title that is the same only worded differently. ROTJ was the original name for Episode VI, hence ROTS. In both the jedi/sith rise again. the ends though opposite had a similiar meaning. The sith rise/the jedi return.

i'm sure there's more we can contribute here.

okay everyone, i'm posting something to help us out here...

Man! i'm just about out of ideas on Empire. all my new questions are for ROTJ. of all the updates that will be done there, i can only imagine. its march though, two months until the final trailer. :)

i love the action, comedy and adventures. the clone soilders match the the novelizations perfectly. plus there's no corny love story between anakin and padme. 

auraloffalwaffle said:I think your thoughts tie in well with how many of us feel here... Luca$h took things in the direction he wanted... and it wasn't a path I wanted to walk with him... I agree that things got more exciting towards the end of the 90s... with the special editions coming out and then TPM... which, of course, is where it all came crashing down for me... TPM?... more like WTF...

 how i wish darth maul could stick is lightsaber up ur golden crack! TPM was the best of the prequels! Come on!

auraloffalwaffle said:

I really hope that this comes true... I remember lots of people, not just me, saying that the PT would be shown up as the crap it is over time... that 30 years after the PT, people will not love those films like people still loved the OT in '97... I just hope that in 2029 I can have a good laugh to myself about how much Luca$h threw away the respect SW had by treating the OT the way he has... thing is, he's in it for the money, so not much hope of him giving a toss anyway...

 now that's not fair to assume lucas just wants the money. he doesn't even need money he's so god damn rich!

anyways, the PT will stick out for many people especially future film makers. when ur kids are born they'll laugh at the

OT. Though, i'm with everyone when i say that the OT is better then the PT.

ask the kids and younger people. they'll say different. i like them, but i admit that there are flaws in the PT.

Akwat Kbrana said:

Yeah, that's always puzzled me. Actually, he doesn't even come across as an assassin: he hires someone else to do the work for him!

So Jango = glorified sperm donor + shady "middleman"?

as the most feared bounty hunter in the galaxy and the madalore, (president of mandalore) he sure is a wuss.

C3PX said:

You didn't offend me in anyway. It might be a generational thing to some degree, though it goes much deeper than that.

I have written countless analogies for this whole matter before, but no matter how many I write, some people still don't get it. They still think some of us ought to get over it and accept what Star Wars has become, rather than wanting what it was to us.

I know this is meaningless, and it isn't going to convince anybody, but I thought of a really great analogy today, and might as well type it up.

For those who just can't quite wrap your head around the OT Star Wars fan, those of you who constantly think, "I just don't get these obsesses old lunatics!", please imagine yourself in the following scenario.

Jorge's Famous Three Layered Cake

Imagine a fellow named Jorge Lewis. Jorge Lewis is a cake maker at a local bakery. You hear from one of your friends that Jorge makes a really excellent chocolate cake (if you don't like chocolate cake, then imagine your favorite type of cake instead). You go to his bakery and try it out, and yeah, it is a pretty amazing cake. Suddenly you are a huge advocate of Jorge and his delicious cakes. You go around telling everyone about them, they are so great you just can't shut up about how good they are. You pass people on the street and happen to hear them talking about needing to order a cake, and you stop and say, "Excuse me, but I couldn't help but over hear you say you needed to buy a cake, well check this Jorge guy out, he makes an amazing cake!" You probably just creeped those people out, but you don't care, because you discovered something amazing, and you just can't keep it to yourself, you have to share it.

Eventually Jorge comes out with a two layered cake, and it is amazing. You go on loving this cake and telling everyone about it. It is an awesome cake, and now it comes in two layers! After a small passage of time, Jorge adds a third layer. Three wonderful layers of chocolaty goodness! You and all your friends agree. Jorge's three layered chocolate cake may very well be the greatest tasting thing on earth. Jorge's three layered chocolate cake is so amazingly wonderful, it renders all other chocolate cakes inedible. Anytime you eat any other kind of chocolate cake, you simply can't shake the feeling that you are experiencing a cheap knock-off, or that you are settling for second best or something further down the line. Jorge's three layered cake has set the standard for cakes as far as you are concerned, and it is pretty hard for anything else to life up to it. 

After years of loving Jorge's three layered chocolate cake, after having it at every single one of your birthdays and for holidays and special occasions, you have never grown tired of this cake. You love it plain and simple. And you love Jorge for having brought it into your life. It is one of those small pleasures that you just wouldn't want to do without. It is a good cake.

One day you enter Jorge's shop to buy one of these wonderful three layered stacks of sugary goodness, and he tells you he has something new. For years he has wanted to put frosting on these cakes, but has never quite been able to get the frosting right, until now. You loved his three layered cake from the very beginning, you had never imagined what it would be like with frosting. It had always just kind of been frostingless, and figured it was always meant to be that way. "Finally, my cake is completed! Finally it is the way I have always imagined it to be! This, my friend, this is the cake I have always intended for you to have when buying from my bakery. This is the way I always envisioned my famous three layered cake being. My apologies for all those subpar cakes you purchased from me in the past, but one bite of this make it up to you. At last, my cake is perfect!"

Jorge is really excited about the new cake, you stay around and chat with him for a bit, tell him it looks very impressive and you can't wait to try it, and congratulate him on finally finding the right frosting, something that apparently he had been looking for for a very long time. You'd been too busy enjoying the cake for all these years to even really consider the fact that it lacked frosting. Oh well, this new cake sure looks good. You get home, cut yourself a piece, and bite into it. Not bad. Not bad at all really. As you go on eating a few more bites, you start thinking to yourself that it is a little bit too sweet for your taste. Th.e new cake isn't awful by any means, but it just isn't the wonderful three layered cake you fell in love with.

The next time you are ready to buy one of Jorge's cakes, you go to him and say, "Alright Jorge, I'd like to order another one of those fantastic three layered cakes of yours. Only this time, could you hold the frosting--"

"What? Hold the frosting? Are you nuts? No! I am not doing it! I won't hold the frosting for you. My famous three layered cake you love so much has frosting on it now, and that is all there is to it, (insert your name here)!

You're kind of surprised, you didn't think the request was that big of a deal. You didn't think it would offend him. After all, he was the mastermind behind the original three layered chocolate cake, the fact that you love that thing he invented so much should be flattering to him. "Well, Jorge, it is just that the cake with the frosting on it is a little to sweet for my taste and--"

"Too sweet? This is my cake, this is the way it is. That other cake you used to order, it doesn't exist anymore. If you really want that cake, well, lets just hope you have an old slice or two left in your refridgerator, because that is the only way you are getting any."

"Alright Jorge, fine. I didn't mean to cause a fuss, I'm sorry. I'll go ahead order one of your cakes with frosting."

"Very good! That'll be $18.50. Thankyou! Come again."

You get home, and sit down to enjoy of piece of the cake, but it really is just too rich. You don't enjoy it like you did. It is no longer the cake that made you want to run out and tell complete strangers about what a wonderful cake it was. In fact, now when you compare it to those other cakes that you always felt never added up or came anywhere close to Jorge's cake, those other cakes don't fair so badly anymore. You even begin to prefer some of those other cakes over Jorge's. You'd have never in a million years have imagined that happening. It wasn't that those other cakes were getting so much better, but that with this overly sweet frosting Jorge's cake just wasn't as good as it used to be (in your humble opinion).

You try scraping the frosting off with a butter knife, but the frosting is laid on so thickly, that it has been absorbed by the cake. No matter what you did to try to alter the cake yourself, it just wasn't that old cake you once loved so much. 

One day you decide to try again, "Jorge, boy your cakes sure are delicious! You know, the other day I was thinking about that old three layered cake you used to make. You know, before the frosting and all..."

"Fine."

"Fine? Fine what? You'll sell me one of your original style cakes?"

"Yes. I will. I am sure you won't like it much, it was a pretty bad tasting cake, not even sure why you want it, but I'll sale you one. Just don't come complaining to me when you realize how awful it is."

"Thanks Jorge! This is great! Thankyou so much!"

Jorge goes into the back and comes back a while later with two cake boxes. One contains a beautiful looking frosted chocolate cake, and the other contains the cake you have been dreaming of, Jorge's famous three layered cake, sans the frosting... only, it is covered in frost.

"Jorge, what is up with the cake?" you ask politely.

"Oh, it is from the freezer. I found a bunch of these frozen in the back of my freezer, left over from a big party I catered last year. Been frozen for about a year, but I am sure you will still like it, I mean, you liked these things when they were all gross, frostingless, and unfinished, you'll like anything. That'll be $36.99.

"$36.99?!"

"Yeah, didn't I mention? You have to buy one of my new frosted cakes along with the year old freezer burnt one. So many customers were requesting the old frostingless cakes, by selling them together we will get to see which cake they really like. Freezer burnt crap, or, my delcious frosted cake. In the end we will see which one you guys really liked. Thank you! Come again."

So, after years of elevating this man to the level of "devine cake maker" and running around as one of his biggest advocates, literally annoying all your friends about this cake and nearly force feeding it to the, refusing to buy cake from anyone else, and decided that there are no other cakes worth eating, and feeling that no baker would ever be as good as Jorge, you walk away from the bakery that day feeling just a small twang of resentment. Jorge could easily sell you a fresh baked cake without the frosting, but for whatever reason, he simply wont. Not even for you, a valued customer and a friend. Instead, he sells you worthless left over frozen year old cakes that most bakerys would have just thrown away. Not only did he sell it to you, but he made you buy one of his fancy new frosted cakes with it, not only that, but you realize you wanted that old frozen cake so badly that you barely even hesitated to buy the frosted cake along side it. 

You feel kind of ripped off and cheated. Jorge and his products had meant so much to you, for some reason you thought you somehow meant something to Jorge. Guess not. Yeah, no use denying it, you feel a little resentful. You know what might make you feel better? Going home and cutting yourself a slice of that original famous three layered chocolate cake... after it thaws out.

 even when i disagree with you, u show great wisdom in the force. i'm being serious btw.

i guess we've to make a decision about which looks better. set two looks better i think. btw, i like the daghobah, but

i've a question. in one of the trilogy walkthrough novels or textbooks or watever, it said yoda maid some of his hutt

from parts of his pod. more speciffically inside he has the seat in a corner. should we expand on that? and the idea of

putting more alien species on daghobah would be inconsistent with the novel. aside from some aliens, there are

spiders, snakes and other everyday reptiles described.

i heard bobba fett was the original donor. only of course, he was a kid. idk, if the kaminoans kidnapped him or

something and did experiments. i wish there was a little more back story to jengo fett though. i feel the same way

about him as when i first saw bobba fett. who is this guy? he's a bounty hunter and a feared one yes, but what's his

story? what's under the helmet? now that i've seen the PT and read some of the EU, i've a better idea of bobba fett.

But there's very little said of jengo fett.

C3PX said:

Let's say I give you $100 dollars, rcb. A few weeks later, after you have had plenty of time to think about and dream about ways to spend you $100, I meet you on the street on your way home, scruff you up, grab your wallet, and take your $100 dollars, saying, "Its mine, I never meant to give you that much anyway." and toss you a ten dollar bill before walking away. Would you be saying, "Well, without C3PX, I wouldn't even have this ten dollars!" It would be true, without me you wouldn't even have the ten bucks, but I still acted like a jerk in giving it to you, then taking it away from you again in a very rude way. 

And now when you complain about what a jerk I am, my friends turn around and say, "Shut up whiner, it was his $100 bucks to give away and take back as he pleased! Stop whining about things that are not even yours. You got what you deserved.

 with all respects, i don't think george took star wars back and gave me a cheap ten

bucks. really i think its just a matter of opinion. star wars is here because of GL. He has

done good over the years even though he made some screw ups. The PT being his

biggest in the corny acting between anakin and padme. ugh. he still deserves respect.

And on the comment about GL seeing the movie, he'll prolly just sit back and laugh and

accept that this is wat some people think of him.

vaderios said:

The funny was that i had ready 3 diferent variations of activation from the gun but i had a Photoshop crash.

Anyways i see what i can do... :)

 

-Angel

 what photoshop do u use?

true. however, still star wars would not exist with out GL.

as much as lucas has screwed up, he is still the father of star wars. and he did inspire and imagination of one generation. this site would not exist if it weren't for him. adywan wouldn't be doing his video edits for the OT. nobody would be making fan maid videos. imagine how dull ur life might be right now without star wars.