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#766836
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Lord Haseo said:

ray_afraid said:

For ice-cream than never runs out and I can enjoy for the rest of my life?

Yes.

Especially in this scenario, where I can live a normal life and do whatever I want on my way to the ice-cream truck, as opposed to being stuck in a car.

Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

It's still ice cream that is at this point beyond our grasp. It's not like you're ever going to forget about it completely. 

 Of course I've not forgotten about it! That's why I'm still here in this metaphorical car elbowing the passengers next to me with excitement and talking about how good it's gonna be.
Some of us are enjoying this ride.

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#766125
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The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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muddyknees2000 said:

I think we're arguing slightly different points here. Where as you're arguing IN-world, I'm coming from a basic film mechanics OUT-of-world standpoint.

I say this because I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've just said, BUT I still believe that Lando is portrayed as a bad guy in the film, until he turns the tables and offers his help. Again....film mechanics, not an in-world explanation.

In-world, he has his reasons and they may in fact be well-intentioned ones. Out-of-world, he still causes harm to the protagonists by joining forces with the main villain.

But I can definitely agree to disagree....especially seeing as this IS an argument of semantics seeing as Lando's alignment was not at all the point of my original post, but rather the argument against idea that there were no characters in SW who CHANGE alignments. Lando was only one of the examples, and some of you disagree with that particular one.

 I'm with ya.

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#766124
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
Time

For ice-cream than never runs out and I can enjoy for the rest of my life?

Yes.

Especially in this scenario, where I can live a normal life and do whatever I want on my way to the ice-cream truck, as opposed to being stuck in a car.

Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

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#766069
Topic
The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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muddyknees2000 said:

Whether or not he had a choice is an issue of semantics. His actions bring harm to protagonists = Bad Guy.

 I disagree. I think his lack of choice in the matter and the way he handled it all makes him a hero through and through. He never acted out of self interest, but was looking out for everybody the entire time. Sure, the citizens of Cloud City aren't portrayed as characters, but if Lando sacrificed them all to save his buddy and his buddy's girlfriend, I think that would make him a selfish bad guy.
Our heroes (including Han in the next film) seem accept his heroic actions once they realize what he's up to. Even if Han died, Lando did the right thing.

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#766013
Topic
The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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muddyknees2000 said:


And then there's Lando.....only looks out for himself, much like Han used to, until he also has a change of heart. In fact, I'd say that grey-area characters are what's most interesting about SW.

 I've never understood this viewpoint. I think Lando did all he could to save everybody. He didn't sell anyone out to save himself and he had a plan to rescue everyone. A plan that worked with the exception of Fett getting away with Han, whom he latter helps rescue.