ray_afraid

I’m seeing Rogue Squadron thrown around, and that was cool, but did any of you play X-Wing?
That’s the good stuff. Really makes you feel like you have joined the Rebellion & are really in the cockpit flying these ships! TIE Fighter was even better in some ways, worse in others. (it get’s all EU with it’s ship design)
Why there’s no modern remake actually boggles my mind.

I love all of the in-film OT Star Wars ships. All of them are fantastic designs.
But the X-Wing is my favorite starfighter of all time.

I’ve not seen the film, but it smacks of desperate (un)originality and, even worse, the ST’s continued un-doing of the OT’s victories.
Again, I’ve not seen the film, so I could be wrong. (but I know enough to know I’m not)

oojason said:

ray_afraid said:

Also had a couple Kona Brewing “Big Wave” golden ales. My favorite beer. Or one of em.

Been listening to the Specials

Exquisite taste as ever, good sir 😃

Cheers! 😄

I hadn’t seen this before:

1982 Return of the Jedi promo poster art by Noriyoshi Ohrai

It’s been Sailor Jerry shots & Red Diamond sweet tea this evening. That’s my usual.
Also had a couple Kona Brewing “Big Wave” golden ales. My favorite beer. Or one of em.

Been listening to the Specials, Devo, White Zombie, Weird Al & Reverend Horton Heat. More to come.

I wish I could pour you a couple drinks here at my personal tiki bar. I think most of us would have a good chat!
Cheers, you sons of guns!

#BringOTBack said:

It’s still going, I assure you. After all, Ady’s not the “throwing in the towel” type of guy. Not even personal stuff could stop him from doing ESB. The only thing he gave up on in Revisited was the prequels.

Trust me, if the Mouse says “Stop”, Ady will.
But, looks like they’re being very cool about this. Very cool.

“George did it too.” doesn’t make Disney’s actions any more appealing.
The OT is still missing & we don’t even have Lucas’ crazy reasons anymore. (yet still more of his changes!)
I don’t think it’s too hard to understand people’s frustration with this.

canofhumdingers said:

The amount I watched was more than enough to inform me what the film was like and whether I’d enjoy watching it or not.

That’s fair. I’m just poking at ya.

yotsuya said:

the real reason Star Wars did not win is because of its genre.

That’s a fact. It was robbed.

Basing your opinion of a filmmaker & their work on the first 20 mins. of a film you didn’t finish?
Pro-Mode.

It’s a totally different subject.
I suggest moving it to the ANH Random Thoughts thread.

Again, this entire thread probably could have gone in that thread, but.

I really like R1, but, for me, it’s got the “unreliable narrator” thing going on. Many things don’t line up with my head canon. (the MonCalamari joining the Rebellion before ANH, for instance)
So, I’m interested in this show, but I’ll have to place it in the same alternate category. Which I’ll be happy to do if it’s good!

Cool stuff!

I’ve bought the trilogy 3 times:
silver SE VHS set
first DVD set (had no idea this was SE only)
Bluray Saga set (just so I can get fanedits)

Also had the original VHS boxset, which was my most prized possession, but that was a gift.

canofhumdingers said:

I saw Annie Hall was on amazon Prime so I thought I’d give it a watch. This dreck beat Star Wars as best picture in 1977? WTF!?

It was so awful I couldn’t finish it. Turned it off after about 20 or 30 mins. And that was being generous. I wanted to stop after about 10 mins but tried to give it the benefit of the doubt.

But geez. It’s basically a pathetic, miserable man being pathetic and miserable and making everyone around him miserable too. What was wrong with people that they would vote for this trash over Star Wars?

lolno.
Star Wars should have won, but.

yotsuya said:

ray_afraid said:

MASTER260 said:

it kinda obligated Lucasfilm to make the prequels because you couldn’t have episodes 4, 5, and 6 without 1, 2, and 3, otherwise it looks stupid.

Totally disagree. Not having the beginning of the story was cool & interesting. As if those stories were lost to time with this all happening “A Long Time Ago.”

Z6PO said:

ray_afraid said:

ChainsawAsh said:

The Princess of Alderaan would have been such a better title…

I’ve seen that passed around, & I disagree.
If Leia was the main character, maybe. But it’s clearly Luke’s story.
(Also, the aping of Edgar Rice Burroughs is right on the nose. Dunno If I hate that or love it.)

Leia may not be the main character, but she sets things in motion, and keep them in motion. She’s basically giving (direct and indirect) orders to the male characters throughout the movie!

Sure, but she isn’t the movies focus enough to title the film after her.
If we’re gonna change the title, I’d rather it be one that references the overarching events than any one character.

How is that different from A Princess of Mars? That princess wasn’t the main protagonist either.
How is that different from A Princess of Mars? That princess wasn’t the main protagonist either.
How is that different from A Princess of Mars? That princess wasn’t the main protagonist either.

I can’t speak for that. Only how it works as a title for this Star Wars film. And I don’t think it works.
She’s more Rebel Traitor than Princess in the film. The Princess thing is mostly a ruse.
Just an opinion.

Also, this discussion belongs in the SW Random thoughts thread.
Maybe the whole thread does, but we’re off topic here.

Dek Rollins said:

^ The legendary triple post.

A post so important, it had to be posted in triplicate.

MASTER260 said:

it kinda obligated Lucasfilm to make the prequels because you couldn’t have episodes 4, 5, and 6 without 1, 2, and 3, otherwise it looks stupid.

Totally disagree. Not having the beginning of the story was cool & interesting. As if those stories were lost to time with this all happening “A Long Time Ago.”

Z6PO said:

ray_afraid said:

ChainsawAsh said:

The Princess of Alderaan would have been such a better title…

I’ve seen that passed around, & I disagree.
If Leia was the main character, maybe. But it’s clearly Luke’s story.
(Also, the aping of Edgar Rice Burroughs is right on the nose. Dunno If I hate that or love it.)

Leia may not be the main character, but she sets things in motion, and keep them in motion. She’s basically giving (direct and indirect) orders to the male characters throughout the movie!

Sure, but she isn’t the movies focus enough to title the film after her.
If we’re gonna change the title, I’d rather it be one that references the overarching events than any one character.

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Dek Rollins said:

I think the bad formatting and the tilt missing the music cue makes it a different (and worse) experience than the original.

Funny to note that even the earliest changes were poorly implemented.
Like the title change or hate it, it can’t be denied that the text no longer matches the music.
Ady fixed it, which proves that it was just sloppily done, like all the changes to follow…

^ Totally agree. That’s why I say it’s just my own nerdy semantics.
There’s nothing that makes the '77 & '81 cuts different enough, I just like thinking of SW’77 & ANH as separate films.
This is a personal fan thing. I’d never argue that Star Wars & A New Hope are different movies. Even if the 97 & on versions feel like a totally different film to me.

Dek Rollins said:

It’s still the same film.

Fair enough. In this instance, even the title change is enough for me to distinguish one as a stand alone & the other as part of a series.
I guess it has more to do with nerdy semantics than anything. : )

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Dek Rollins said:

the 1981 release is not a different film just because a subtitle was added

There are effects changes too.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Having watched it in the theater 5 times in 1977, and changing my life in the process, this film will always be “Star Wars” to me.

I think we all agree that the 1977 film was, is & will always be “Star Wars”.
But what about the 2019 version? Would you still consider that thing the same film? I can’t.