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Post: #215658
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215658/action/topic#215658
Time: 2-Jun-2006 3:21 PM

Originally posted by: Darth Richard
With all this PAL NTSC talk made me think. they need to merge or something. Cuz NTSC obviously is the worse of the two. It wo0uld be nice if there could be a universal one that use the frame rate that is was shot in but with PAL resolution. Or something like that but anyways

It exists (but better) and it's called Blu-Ray at 1080p/24.

.... and all this is wildly off topic.

Post: #211473
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211473/action/topic#211473
Time: 19-May-2006 2:08 PM

Rikter, you are the man, been looking forward to this finally being torrented. I shall be excitedly checking my MySpleen RSS Feed all next week, oh yes

Are you going to torrent the XviD's as well Rikter, the quality difference between MPEG2 and XviD made to fill a DVD is massive, I love those HQ XviD encodes! And getting the XviD is so the perfect way to watch the films since they are slowed down from the PAL source to 24fps so we get it in its most authentic form

And of course, props to Citizen, I take it from Rik's post that means the trilogy is complete? Can't wait to see these badboys.

Post: #207972
Topic: BLADE RUNNER: The Unauthorized OFF-WORLD Box Set (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207972/action/topic#207972
Time: 9-May-2006 6:20 PM

DEAR LORD! This XviD version of Blade Runner Citizen sent me is amazing! The difference between it and the commercial DVD from the late 90's is night and day. So much less dirt and dancing pixelation, much better beautiful colours and amazing detail.

Simply stunning, thanks so much Citizen!

Rikter: If you're gonna torrent it somewhere, let me know and I'll help seed it. I'm looking forward to your full set of extras to go with this as well

Citizen, you swear blind by encoding things to XviD (I have noticed) and I don't blame you after seeing this, comparing the quality of the XviD to the PAL DVD of the same HD footage you sent me really shows the difference. I watch films on my 19' CRT Monitor (yeah I'm poor, I'm saving up for a sexy big widescreen monitor though) so can really see the difference, I can see how it would be really evident when you watch this via a projector like you've mentioned.

Sorry, to drag this off topic btw, but at least we're still talking about Blade Runner

Post: #207228
Topic: BLADE RUNNER: The Unauthorized OFF-WORLD Box Set (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207228/action/topic#207228
Time: 7-May-2006 9:41 AM

awesome, thanks Citizen!

Rikter: Let me know if you get it and want help seeding it somewhere, or if I should upload it somewhere myself (Demonoid is really the only place I could upload it, probs better to get it on MySpleen, but I haven't got uploader privileges there).

Also, first person to message me gets a PIF from me as soon as I've got it off Citizen.

Post: #207168
Topic: BLADE RUNNER: The Unauthorized OFF-WORLD Box Set (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207168/action/topic#207168
Time: 6-May-2006 9:52 PM

Definitely count me in for a PIF for your XviD Citizen, I'll email you my details. Really looking forward to seeing this one

Post: #207073
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207073/action/topic#207073
Time: 6-May-2006 3:38 PM

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
I, too, am hopeful and excited. And wary.

lol, oh I give up, bunch of bloody miserable bastards the lot of you

Post: #207069
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207069/action/topic#207069
Time: 6-May-2006 3:24 PM

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"What could possibly be goofed up with that"

My thoughts exactly.

so everyone try and be a little more optimistic then, come on! I'm really hopeful for this release in September and am already really excited.

Post: #207062
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207062/action/topic#207062
Time: 6-May-2006 2:42 PM

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
We're just going by LFL's track record. Blame them, not us.

But that's LFL's track record at REMASTERING Star Wars to DVD for last years release. There is absolutely nothing suggested (and a lot to suggest otherwise) that they are going to tamper in anyway with this release. Just take a Film Master of what they did back in '93 (which was very good back then) and take a new digital transfer of it to turn into the new DVD's coming out in September. What could possibly be goofed up with that, I'd be surprised if LFL actually have much to do with any stage of the transfer, they'll send the Film Master to a lab to be digitised and that's it. A clean transfer, no remastering, no tinkering, no nothing. They won't have any opportunity to mess anything up. When the DVD's get released, then WE can do all the remastering we want.

Post: #207052
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207052/action/topic#207052
Time: 6-May-2006 2:05 PM

God, you people are pessimistic.

Post: #207050
Topic: ***Citizen's NTSC DVD/PAL DVD/XviD Info and Feedback Thread***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207050/action/topic#207050
Time: 6-May-2006 2:04 PM

yep, I'm still looking forward to seeing the finished edition to this set also

Post: #207048
Topic: BLADE RUNNER: The Unauthorized OFF-WORLD Box Set (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207048/action/topic#207048
Time: 6-May-2006 2:02 PM

dear god yes, please Citizen, torrent this somewhere PLEASE! I was fairly interested in the HD to DVD conversion of this broadcast, but your XviD would be MUCH better quality. Would love to get hold of this, either torrent or trade (I'm in the UK)

Post: #207014
Topic: Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207014/action/topic#207014
Time: 6-May-2006 11:25 AM

ocpmovie, even though I see many people not understanding your approach/humour in your posts in recent days, I do agree with you here.

As ocp quoted me saying (aw shucks), from all that we can gather at this point (1 press release and a couple sentences in interviews) it looks like we are going to get pretty much the same print used in the 93 DC/Faces releases, the print we (up until 3 days ago) considered to be the absolute best possible transfer of the OOT we would ever get to see. This was the transfer that everyone was using for their preservation projects. So, in essence, the best we can do to preserve the OOT is:

UP UNTIL NOW: Buy best LaserDisc player one can afford and mod it if neccessary (X0), buy the best analogue video capture card one can afford, capture it to lossless AVI and then work from this as our RAW Master. Time to do all this and messing around tweaking players and capture cards = a LONG TIME (even longer depending on how obsessive you are in getting the best possible capture, the X0 team have done several captures already!) Cost = a HELL of a lot of money, most people here couldn't even begin to afford!

FROM SEPTEMBER ONWARDS: Buy new OFFICIAL OOT Discs, rip them onto our computers (DVD Decrypter), convert the MPEG2 files to lossless AVI (VirtualDubMod and huffyuv) and then work from this as our RAW Master. Time to do all this = probably a day, tops. Cost = Price of the DVD's.

SO, bearing in mind I'm generally a very positive chap, I'm hoping (and it sounds like) that what we get in September is a nice simple straight transfer to DVD of the same stock they used for the DC/Faces LaserDiscs (from what we are lead to believe with comments like "state of the art circa '93 quality", this sounds like what we are gonna get, no messing with anything, just straight from film to DVD... even they can't mess that up, SURELY!) For a fraction of the cost/time we are having to deal with currently, we get a MUCH BETTER RAW PRINT TO WORK WITH! Blatantly people are gonna see ways to improve it ala the exhaustive frame-by-frame clean up work of the X0 and colour enhancement etc, then those wanting to go beyond preservation into digital remastering/enhancement, get rid of garbage mattes, fx glitches, compositing shoddiness etc can do that with their projects.

Also, as an aside, sounds like the OOT DVD's are gonna have a nice high bit rate as they won't be coming with extras or anything on the DVD's with them, so hopefully we won't have to deal with much/any MPEG2 compression artifacts when we convert them to uncompressed AVI to start editing them. Speculation atm, but that's the way it sounds from the press release.

AS far as I'm concerned (all things happening as I have described) this is the best news we could have hoped for! There is no way LFL were gonna spend loads of time remastering this print just so they can slap it on as bonus feature in the new boxset, so instead, they are gonna just give us the best raw capture we could ever hope for of the source we have been working with for the last few years, so we can then go on to remaster/add all the extra soundtracks to it ourselves

Roll on September and the beginning of a whole wave of "LaserDisc Is Dead" projects

Exciting times!

ps ocpmovie: I'd say lay off posting things about this in the X0 thread, I'm sure you mean well and you're not really wishing to cause trouble, but I think you're just gonna piss people off needlessly, and I'm sure all those guys will be observing threads like this. Also (and completely no disrespect to those guys and their impressive skills) the only thing which had them before as the bastions of the OOT effort was their beautiful RAW capture, from September hopefully that will be rendered moot, and then anyone with the same dedication and willingness and skill to clean/remaster the OOT can do so too! Things here have basically got to the point where everyone was only interested in what the X0 team were doing, from september, I'm hoping, loads more cleanup/remastering efforts will begin and things here will be more exciting than ever! Everyone will be given the same opportunity to work on this and produce the best possible results, regardless of financial support or equipment resources, how beautiful is that! Of course if people want to still continue to create their own definitive take on the best LaserDisc conversion that is possible with this technology, purely for their own satisfaction and amusement, then sure, go ahead and do it, no one can criticise that, please yourself first and if others love what you're doing then that's a bonus. Personally, my interest will be squarely centred on what people can achieve with using this new wave of LID preservation.

Or maybe I'm just being too optimistic

meh, keeps me happy

Post: #206471
Topic: Help Wanted: The Phantom Tollbooth - can anyone do a preservation? a request...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206471/action/topic#206471
Time: 4-May-2006 7:09 PM

Oh cool, I hope you're right OgOggilby, that would be great! Anyone got any more info on this?

Still be good to get a LaserDisc rip until the official DVD comes out though

Post: #206416
Topic: Help Wanted: The Phantom Tollbooth - can anyone do a preservation? a request...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206416/action/topic#206416
Time: 4-May-2006 5:18 PM — Edited 16-Jul-2020 12:24 PM

The Phantom Tollbooth

This is a film I loved as a child and I would love to see a DVD preservation project for it. I’m just sending out shouts to see if anyone has a a LaserDisc copy and if anyone would be willing to copy it to DVD. I don’t have either (LaserDisc player or The Phantom Tollbooth LaserDisc), but would love it if there was anyone out there willing to do this. I may try and get a copy on LaserDisc for someone to preserve if there is interest, I’ll start looking on eBay.

Here’s hoping, thanks for listening.

Post: #206333
Topic: The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206333/action/topic#206333
Time: 4-May-2006 1:29 PM

Originally posted by: f1209

Originally posted by: Rikter
These have been deleted from MYSPLEEN as they announced the official DVD's!!!!

Is it likely that all laserdisc transfers will be discontinued immediately before seeing the official release? Damn it. Cowclops was the next trilogy capture on my list !

Doesn't stop you trading for copies, we've just gotta be a bit more sly about it from now on as we're not dealing with OOP movies anymore.

Post: #206326
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206326/action/topic#206326
Time: 4-May-2006 1:25 PM

Originally posted by: tellan

heres the problem. These brand new DVDs will be using ancient video masters. Jim Ward, of Lucasfilms, comments: "The original films' video quality will not match up to that of the restored versions. 'It is state of the art, as of 1993, and that's not as good as state of the art 2006,' Ward says." That quote can be found in this article from USA Today.

I don't care if the video is only 1993 quality. as long as it is sharper than the LD that gives me the basis to still do what I am doing. only it will allow me to produce the Best SE non crap version that can exist and that is all I care about. I will still have my beloved trilogy as it was originally but I will still finish my own project purely because it will be visually better.

and it'll have 5.1 sound.

stroll on later this year.

EXACTLY tellan!

George is giving us a High Quality Raw Capture of the OT, better than any LaserDisc player (even the sacred X0) could ever give us. The X0 Project (and everyone else's projects) will now have a much better master to work from to create a myriad of editions for us all to trade. You want a version with frames painlessly cleaned up individually, a version with every sound mix you can ever imagine included, a version with lightsabers/garbage mattes/dodgy compositing all fixed up and Hayden effing Christensen at the end of ROTJ, NO PROBS! You will now be able to do this working with the best clean master yet. Short of Georgie releasing it in raw AVI sold on a HardDisk, this is the best thing we could have hoped for!

Be positive people, this isn't the end, it is only a new exciting beginning of what we can work on! And you get 3 nice shiny '04 DVD beer mats included as well.

Post: #206309
Topic: ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206309/action/topic#206309
Time: 4-May-2006 12:50 PM

Originally posted by: Number20
If I read correctly, the DVDs will have the O-OT, and then a second disc that has the '04 SSE DVDs. Why? Why not restore the old making ofs or something? some sort of bonus disc? Why are they continually repackaging the '04 SSEs?

To Bleed Us Dry, plain and simple.

TBH, I'm not surprised, this seems like a compromise by Georgie, it keeps us OT'ers happy but to everyone else who isn't bothered, it makes him look like he is still standing by his view that the SE versions ('97 & now the '04 edition) are the definitive versions and the theatrical releases are just things only worthy of throwing in as a bonus disc, like it is nothing better than a work print. Whatever, he'll screw us for a few more bux forcing us to buy the '04 editions (again for some ppl) but all that matters is we are gonna get a full DVD release of the films we have been fighting to get for these last couple years, so either way, we win

As far as talk of the OT editions not being up to the quality of the '04 DVD's, I couldn't be happier with that info thank you very much. After the rubbish "remastering" work done on the '04 DVD's, all I want is a nice clean transfer of the same print that was used for the 93 DC/Faces sets. The "quality" they are talking about is the over polished, nasty digital colour compressed rubbish that your average Joe Consumer wants from DVD's these days. Star Wars is 25-30 years old, I see no problem in that it isn't screwed around with to make it look like the new trilogy thanks very much. Leave the mistakes/Shoddy FX/Rubbish looking lightsabers & Dodgy Frames of manakin Greedo ALONE cos THAT'S HOW I REMEMBER IT, if ppl here are till bothered by that after it comes out, we can mess around with that ourselves afterwards. If Jim Ward oversees that a nice clean transfer is made, that basically looks like a DC/faces transfer, but with the kinda clarity we were looking at with the XO Project (or most probably even better), that will be fantastic, that's all I want. After that has been released, let the Fan Edit video remastering, FX remastering & soundtrack remastering and inserting DVD editions BEGIN!

Today is a great day in the history of Star Wars!

Post: #197595
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197595/action/topic#197595
Time: 3-Apr-2006 1:36 PM

any news on ROTJ Citizen? Really looking forward to having your complete PAL trilogy to watch and enjoy

Post: #172721
Topic: STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/172721/action/topic#172721
Time: 24-Jan-2006 3:49 PM

Originally posted by: Arnie.d

Originally posted by: pupil

Originally posted by: Arnie.d
I uploaded "Star Wars The Ultimate Supplemental Collection Disc 1 - Laserdisc Extras by RowMan". I can't get uploader status at myspleen

so you can get it here.

EDIT: I can't upload very fast (50 kbs max) so it will take at least a day to upload the entire torrent.

is there a reason why this is stuck at 99.9% percent for a bunch of people, is this uploaded ok?

I think it's OK. I'm still seeding and it looks like it's been downloaded completely a few times. Maybe it was stuck because I was super-seeding and I was the only seed.

EDIT: I can't upload very fast but it's still faster then regular mail

(well, in most cases)

thats cool, loads of seeders at 100% now

Post: #172694
Topic: STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/172694/action/topic#172694
Time: 24-Jan-2006 1:35 PM

Originally posted by: Arnie.d
I uploaded "Star Wars The Ultimate Supplemental Collection Disc 1 - Laserdisc Extras by RowMan". I can't get uploader status at myspleen

so you can get it here.

EDIT: I can't upload very fast (50 kbs max) so it will take at least a day to upload the entire torrent.

is there a reason why this is stuck at 99.9% percent for a bunch of people, is this uploaded ok?

Post: #166199
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/166199/action/topic#166199
Time: 29-Dec-2005 6:59 AM

Re: MySpleen. no one has offered yet, and I would really love for someone to do it as I'm really excited to get these versions!

If no one has by the time RotJ has been done by Citizen, then if I can get them all via PIF I will happily upload whatever versions I have onto MySpleen (if I can get uploader persmission)

anyone wanna do it anyway, SL DVD's of ANH and ESB (and RotJ when its done) would be magnificient!

Post: #151210
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151210/action/topic#151210
Time: 29-Oct-2005 2:12 PM

awesome, thanks zion

Post: #151202
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/151202/action/topic#151202
Time: 29-Oct-2005 12:05 PM

PLEEEEEEEASE can someone email me the first edition of the X0 newsletter, I missed the boat to sign up for it first time around.

my addy is kevingham [at] fastmail [dot] fm

thankyou in advance to the lovelly people who can help me

newsletter 2 is great btw, thanks guys!

Post: #147840
Topic: ***Citizen's NTSC DVD/PAL DVD/XviD Info and Feedback Thread***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147840/action/topic#147840
Time: 14-Oct-2005 2:02 PM

any wonderful human being who would like to upload the DL images of Citizens ANH to MySpleen (especially the PAL version) would make me very happy

.. or if anyone can trade me a copy, please PM me as again, I would be total happy about that to.

Post: #141061
Topic: Help: Looking for... a O-OT preservation project on DVD.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141061/action/topic#141061
Time: 25-Sep-2005 6:05 AM

hey guys, if you are after a PAL version, then wait a week and check out the Citizen transfer, preliminary shots and little video segment sposted are suggestion this one will be the ultimate PAL transfer to date. It's coming very soon, read up on the thread.

Also, you may want to PM Laserman here on the board if you want to trade copies, he is an Aussie like yourselves and may be able to help you out.