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#1224150
Topic
Star Wars: Firestorm (The Last Jedi Fan Edit) (* unfinished project *)
Time

I’m not sure if EvenSteven wants any more talk about Holdo’s hair (if so, let me know and I can take down this post), but since there’s been discussion here, I think changing her hair to brown is doable using colorista in After Effects, which has secondaries and power masks.

Here’s a sample:
https://vimeo.com/278972236
pw: fanedit

This would still require going shot by shot and animating the masks, but it does seem doable.

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#1213923
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

toastedzen said:

Have you noticed hal, as an editor, in more recent movies are deleted scenes added to the Bluray in their unfinished versions rather than becoming fodder for editors, or is this more of the direction of each studio and director and only some movies have somewhat polished deleted material?

I think this has more to do with when in the editorial process the shot is cut. Some shots/scenes are cut very late when all of the FX are done, and some not.

Saruman’s appearance was cut very late from Return of the King, to the chagrin Count Dooku. But we got the extended editions!

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#1210606
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

Here’s my paint-by-numbers implementation of poppasketti’s mockup for Snoke’s death.

https://vimeo.com/271892387
password: fanedit

Yasss! Great work, Hal! I’m so happy this will be a part of your version, and I just love the way people collaborate here!

My only questions / suggestions:

  1. At 0:25, I put a slight zoom on the closeup of Kylo (100 to 105%) that for me helped match the camera motion of the shots before and after.
  2. I rode the levels of the Torn Apart music a little, starting it soft and only letting it reach full volume for the last couple of seconds. I defer to your judgment of how it sounds in the full mix, but thought I’d mention it!
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#1210335
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

[Hal 9000 said:]

That’s very nice! It deftly avoids RJ’s double/triple/whatever fakeout while infusing a meaningful sense of emotion. Instantly sold. Do you already have it in full 5.1? If not, I should be able to recreate it.

Ha, I’m glad you like it!

I do not have it in 5.1 at the moment. I used the center channel of the 5.1 to grab the dialogue (mostly just Rey breathing) and added music from the Torn Apart track from TFA, but I’m not actually sure the best way to go about making the new music 5.1 with proper reverb. Any ideas? Should I send you my edits for reference so you can recreate it?

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#1210250
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hello,

Another thing that still sort of bothers me is how much Snoke telestrates for the audience what’s about to happen. I love how you cut out the shot of seeing the saber turning, but I still find the dialogue too obvious and distracting, and diverts attention from the tension between Kylo and Rey.

So I took a shot at removing the latter part of Snoke’s dialogue (“I cannot be betrayed…he kills his true enemy…”), and here’s the result:

https://vimeo.com/271774914
password: fanedit

The new music is from Torn Apart, which I think is appropriate here because it’s the same track that plays when Kylo kills Han Solo, so it’s kind a mirror. Just an idea I figured I’d share!

Also, Hal, when you can, please send me the sunspot prores file.

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#1208887
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

AbramPT said:

  • Finally, I would love to see that little speck in the sun disappear during Luke’s final moments. It’s such a minuscule detail, but the first time I watched TLJ, I actually thought a ship was on its way to save Luke at the last second.

Hal 9000 said:

I would, too. Can anyone do that? I imagine it’s pretty easy.

Did someone say easy?!

How’s this: https://vimeo.com/271196844 (pw: fanedit)

(Hal, if you wouldn’t mind, could you send me a prores file of just this shot? I did this tweak off of your work print file.)

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#1208387
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hi Hal,

I’m watching the new work print and it looks great! I love the new deleted scenes and think they pace the beginning much better, and gives us some more good character moments.

I’m glad you brought back Rose’s line about “the vilest people in the galaxy.” It just makes that scene less abrupt and teases Canto Bight / DJ better. Thanks for doing that!

I also found the Wilhelm scream, but I won’t give it away so others can enjoy finding it.

Haven’t finished yet, but I’ll let you know if I have any other thoughts!

Great work!

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#1203769
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hey Hal,

One thing I noticed when re-watching your Canto Bight sequence (so much better) is that there’s not a lot of setup for the shady people they’re about to see (including DJ), and the stolen weapons dealer’s ship moment is kind of random.

Now, I’m not suggesting adding back in any of the ham-fisted political commentary, but Rose has a simple line after Finn asks, “You know this town, Canto Bight?”
Rose says “From stories”, which is where you cut. This is a bit abrupt, but she also says right after that, “It’s a terrible place filled with the vilest people in the galaxy.”

I think adding that back would help setup the place, and DJ’s revelation about the weapons dealer wouldn’t come out of nowhere. It would be akin to Obi-Wan’s “wretched hive of scum and villainy” line from ANH.

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#1203508
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

MalàStrana said:
The thing is that this scene is probably going to be a real deal breaker for many people, so I hope someone will take Hal’s edit and implement into it the best space Leia’s removal possible !

MalàStrana, that’s what I want too! The scene is a deal breaker for me.

Here’s my current version (using Ivan Ortega’s music idea for the end of the scene):
https://vimeo.com/268210930 (pw: fanedit)

But I’m wondering what others have done. I’m just looking for the best version to splice into Hal’s edit. Maybe we should make a new topic to keep this out of Hal’s thread?

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#1203316
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

That is probably the best way that idea can be executed. Great work!

But, I don’t have an impetus to remove the sequence. Especially since we won’t be getting any more Leia.

Fair enough! And thank you!

I think I will use your edit when finished and splice in this bit for myself. Leia Poppins just takes me right out of the movie!

Edit: btw, that YouTube video you linked to is fantastic, thanks for sharing!

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#1203308
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hey Hal!

Just watched down the work print, and I love your style! You’re careful and subtle with the changes, so that none of the edits were distracting.

I was most impressed, of course, with the Canto Bight cutdown. Oh man, I can enjoy the movie so much more with that reduction, I think you nailed it!

One thing, though, that I just won’t be able to ever get over watching is the Leia Poppins scene. It’s just too distracting. Ultimately, I think I will want a hybrid of your edit with this scene cut.

So, inspired by the Ivan Ortega videos and my wife’s suggestion for how to eliminate that scene, I tried my hand at a proof of concept edit to see if it can be removed without being too fan-edity. This is the result: https://vimeo.com/268210930
(pw: fanedit)

Does this work at all? One thing I would like to do, with permission, is use the music change Ortega outlined here: https://youtu.be/wq57WLWAqU8?t=10m15s

I love his music transition from Hux to Leia, and that would be my ideal way to finish off the scene. What do you think?

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#1200569
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

I’m very reluctant to crop off the broom boy ending because to me it just feels so very ‘fan edit-y’ and inauthentic in a way I can’t put my finger on. Star Wars movies always end with a scene without any dialogue, and even if Canto Bight is hardly there, the meaning of the final scene would still read easily.

Hal, I completely agree with you on this. Ending on the Falcon feels rushed to me and just kind of small.

The broom boy scene works so well not because it pays off the fathier scenes, but because it pays off Luke’s sacrifice. Luke accepting his legend and using it to inspire others gives his actions such weight and scope. It’s just epic. And it plays wonderfully after Rey herself expresses doubt about the fate of the rebellion.

Without that end scene, you lose the scale of what Luke has done. He didn’t just save our heroes, he rekindled the rebel spirit.

(Hal, I would also be grateful to see an early rough cut when it is ready!)

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#1193511
Topic
The Last Jedi: Legendary (Released)
Time

Hal 9000 said:

Thanks very much; I’ll be sending you a PM shortly.

Hey Hal,

Here’s my first pass at stabilizing the crate.
https://vimeo.com/263673331
password: fanedit

I’ll scrutinize a bit more myself as I think there’s a couple small things I want to fix, but let me know if you see anything. I uploaded the prores file to vimeo, so if you like, you can download the file and slot it into your edit!

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#1159194
Topic
The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit <strong>Ideas</strong> thread
Time

Hal 9000 said:

FWIW, here’s my current intended cutlist for an edit of THE LAST JEDI. Of course, any of these may or may not be feasible once I actually have the ripped film to address in a NLE.

  • I’ll ask anyone here who is willing, to stabilize the crate Luke sits down on while talking with Leia. The filmmakers bothered to not have him physically interact with the ground, or make walking foley sounds, so this seems like a small but positive change to make. (You just gotta do stuff like this while you’ve got everything cracked open.)

I really like your intended cut-list. And I’d be happy to try stabilizing the crate for you. Sounds like a fun challenge!

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#1159180
Topic
The Last Jedi : a Fan Edit <strong>Ideas</strong> thread
Time

I’ve been following this thread for a while, and I see so many interesting ideas flying around. I think we’ll have a lot of fan edits!

I’m wondering if anyone else is in line with what I’d like to see, as it’s getting hard to parse what people intend to make with their edits.

Is anyone else planning on doing this and basically only this?

1) Remove or dramatically scale back Finn and Rose’s storyline
I love Finn, and Rose is a nice new character, but their storyline is wasted on them and has the following awful bits: Maz’s silly phone call, Casino planet, fathiers, Finn’s fight with Phasma, BB-8 piloting walker, Rose’s “saving” Finn with high speed collision that should have killed them both and also prevented him from saving the rest.

2) Remove Leah’s spacewalk
make it just an explosion, perhaps in a few quick flashes show them putting the oxygen mask on her and then in the recovery bed.

I think it would cut out 20-30 minutes of the movie, without needing any material that isn’t there (I think). I find the ideas about restructuring 7 and 8 interesting but mentally exhausting. I just want the parts I found distracting removed, because the stuff I liked (Luke / Rey / Kylo) I loved!

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#1060516
Topic
The theatrical colors of the Star Wars trilogy
Time

This image is actually a photo Mike Verta took of a projected technicolor print with a 1970s bulb and screen. It does appear to look a bit off, compared to the actual frame, and the bootleg recording. It might be, that the 1970s bulb emitted a more yellow/orange hue due to its age, or perhaps this is another example of the color imbalances NeverarGreat discussed?

Oh, I see. I thought that frame represented Mr. Verta’s final color grade, as I think yotsuya thought. My mistake!

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#1060295
Topic
The theatrical colors of the Star Wars trilogy
Time

yotsuya said:

DrDre said:

These two examples of the same frame really show why I have issues with Mike Verta’s color choices. Both droids seem dull in the top one, but both gleam like metallic surfaces really do in bright lights in the lower one. And it doesn’t seem to be an artifact of the poor condition of of the tape as I get the same gleam when I correct to Mike’s 1 fps sample clips. Mike seems convinced that R2 should be very dark instead of letting the film tell him the color. In all the correction passes I have made on the GOUT, JSC, 97 SE broadcast, and BR, I have never gotten a dark R2 like this. The colors in the video tape are much closer to what I keep getting - a deep cobalt blue. Having been to the Star Wars Costume Exhibit at the Denver Art Museum where they had an original ANH R2 and several pieces to examine close up, the original R2 is not that dark and looks more like the lower photo (I have no idea how many Kenny Baker R2’s were made for ANH or which one was in this shot or which one is on tour with the exhibit).

I’m pretty new to this, but I agree. Shouldn’t the above shot look more like this: