Yeah I’m not sure there’s a softer tumbling shot than what you had. It could just be one of those movie things where a main character gets in a major accident and somehow makes it out with cuts and bruises.

I think flopping the shot works. I also wonder if cutting the earlier shot (and Poe’s reaction) could work so it’s not so much duplication. It may not with the pacing.

My hope right now (before rendering a new workprint) would be for two versions:

1. Keep the scene as-is, improve the first skimmer removal shot, and remove the right skimmer on the wide shot. This way we have Finn shot down, and just don’t see Rose for a bit, but the rest of the scene is intact and “clean.”

2. Rose gets shot down as she’s retreating. This would also require the skimmer removal shots, as well as the new fx of the laser blasts at Rose’s skimmer along the lines of big_gareth’s work. I even think with this version we can leave the rest of the scene the same without Finn and Rose meeting after the crash. He could just get out of the cockpit and say “Rose.” Next time we see them he’s carrying her into base. This fixes the continuity without introducing any distance issue. Been a bit busy lately, so haven’t yet sat down and given version 2 a solid effort!

big_gareth, I’m glad you’ve been inspired and I like your concept for having Rose shot down after she’s turned away. Nice work! It’s definitely a better reaction from Finn. He looks distraught. I do wonder if the shot of the skimmer tumbling is a bit too intense. I’m not sure anyone could survive that!

I like the V2 better, and actually would make the impact effect you added shorter, just a quick flash. I don’t think we need to see it targeting her, we get that idea from the lasers flying past the skimmer. Those lasers look good, by the way, I would just make them red to match what the walkers were firing.

I will have to try this again and see if the audio can help sell the moment, but I definitely think it’s closer!

Also, did you paint out one of the skimmers from the wide shot?! Very nice! I thought of trying that myself; might as well go all the way with it. I also need to fix the V1 of my skimmer removal. The shadows at the bottom of the frame don’t work, and the edge of the smoke is off.

jarbear said:

Also, at least for me, I still see two ships colliding into each other … so for a person like me who sees details … there would need to be someone editing frame by frame and removing Rose’s colliding skimmer.

But that’s people like me who see’s that detail. 😉

So here’s an effort at removing one of the skimmers from the collision to reinforce Finn getting shot down!

https://vimeo.com/287162447 (password: fanedit)

Maybe it’s just for jarbear, but I figured it was worth giving it a shot!
It’s not perfect, but I may be able to improve upon it.

Thank you, darthrush! Your edit of this scene is so fantastic and essential for my enjoyment of the movie. As I’ve said before, Rose’s “rescue” is so illogical to me I have trouble focusing afterward.

While I understand having Rose disappear until the end scene in the Falcon is a bit odd, it’s not out of the realm of the kind of editing that often happens in large scale films. Think of Gandalf‘s staff disappearing in the theatrical Return of the King. Or Han having a “funny feeling” he wasn’t going to see the Falcon again in Return of the Jedi. Or the missing 3rd lesson in The Last Jedi!

I’m still open to having Rose get shot down. I’ve played with it, but haven’t figured out how to make it a real moment, which is kind of required for this to happen to a major character. Overall, if it doesn’t work, though, I’m okay with it as is.

Here’s a very minor update to Finn getting shot down. I added some lighting effects in the cockpit and a bit more sound design to help sell Finn getting hit with a laser blast instead of a collision.

https://vimeo.com/286687330
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That’s great to hear! Glad you’re excited!

Haven’t posted much recently simply because work has been crazy busy the last couple of weeks.

As I said last week, the only thing on my list at this point is to add a laser blast to Finn getting shot down. Looking at it again, though, I realize it only makes sense to add some sort of light flash on the shot of Finn because that’s when the impact happens.

I may also experiment with RogueLeader’s idea for having Rose get shot down.

In any case, I hope to have a new workprint in the next week or two. This one will have 5.1 surround so I can check that the mix sounds right.

Thank you again, everybody!

Thanks for the feedback! It looks like option B is what I will go with (although I certainly can provide an alt track as Hal suggested).

I think all that’s on my list for the moment is to try and add a laser blast to when Finn gets “shot down”.

I still like RogueLeader’s idea for having Rose get shot down, but at the same time, I love the original flow of the scene (with Rose and Poe trying to talk Finn out of going). I may play with it. I think some music to create the impact Finn feels when Rose gets shot down may help sell it.

Correct! The length / timing has not changed at all.

Good to see there’s interest in both versions! I think I lean towards B simply because it keeps the original score mostly intact and doesn’t repeat TFA as much.

So here’s two ideas for the saber toss, approaching the scene from the perspective that the toss isn’t so much the issue as the comedic timing of it:

Option A (TFA Music)
https://vimeo.com/284544481 (password: fanedit)

Option B (TLJ Music Extended)
https://vimeo.com/284554005 (password: fanedit)

I think the original music played into the joke aspect by swelling and then going silent, so we only hear the wind. This has a “bottom falling out” effect, which works for comedy. So to resolve this, I’ve made some modifications to the score, and I think it plays differently. Instead of a joke, the music emphasizes Luke’s anger.

Option A uses “The Jedi Steps” from TFA to replace most of the score from this scene. It’s not ideal, as using the same music only adds to the oddness of having two versions of the same scene across two movies. Option B is my favorite I think, because there’s very little music change. It’s essentially just sliding the music swell to after the toss, so I just had to add a few seconds of music to bridge the gap.

On a smaller level, I also brought in the bells from “The Jedi Steps” theme a little sooner, right after Finn says “Where’s Rey?” Every time I watched that scene I always felt like I wanted to hear a teasing of bells during the pause before the cut, so I tried it and I think it works. I’m a fan of when music leads into a transition instead of after the cut.

EDIT: Added 2nd Option!

jarbear said:

Wonderful! I would insert that into my edit!

Check your PM! 😉

If anyone else would like full res versions (prores HQ, 5.1 audio) of any specific changes to slot into your edits, please PM me.

The next thing I’d be looking into would be to add a laser blast to show Finn’s ship getting blasted. I’m not sure I could roto out the second ship during the collision, but I think to some (not all!), the mind accepts the shots of the crash as being parts of the same ship. I’m also still thinking about having Rose crash, but for now, leaning against it, because I love the build-up to Finn’s suicide run as it was originally put together.

HyperDown said:

This sounds like a fantastic set of edits coming together here. If you were to include some tweaks to the Luke ‘saber toss’ scene (ala Ivan), this would be really close to my perfect cut.

Thank you, I’m glad you like the edits! I agree it would be nice to improve the Luke saber toss. The thing with Ivan’s version is that he’s very much changing Luke’s character in the movie, having Luke accept his role to train Rey immediately. In this (Hal’s) version, Luke’s saber toss fits with his behavior in the first half and makes the statement that Luke has become jaded. It just looks a bit silly, played for comedy. I like darthrush’s version, with him just dropping it, but I’m not sure yet if that’s what I would want to do. I’m also thinking the music may have something to do with the comedic timing of the moment, and wondering if a music tweak could help.

oojason said:

As an aside, would shortening the amount of time Leia is pulling herself to the ship (likely cutting to Poe’s view from the ship window earlier) help with those who do have issues with the scene overall?

How about this?
https://vimeo.com/283286707 (pw: fanedit)

I found a spot to trim the music, which I think is hard to notice, so I was able to trim 1:05 off of the Leia flying shot and cut sooner to Poe. It also works by trimming the beginning of the Leia flying shot instead of the end, so let me know if you’d like to see that.

I have a problem with the scene conceptually more than execution, but I hope this helps!

Here’s a V5!
https://vimeo.com/283242749 (password: fanedit)

For this version I have rotoscoped BB-8 so his matte should be cleaner. I’ve also scaled him up another 10-15% and added a bit more focus blur.

darthrush, that’s interesting about trimming the Finn shot of him dragging Rose instead of cutting it. That way, at least, we see Finn get back to base. I guess I was just worried it would be confusing as to who he was carrying yelling for a medpack. But it could be anybody, I suppose. I am eagerly awaiting The Dark Cut!

Excellent, glad we’re in a good spot here! Thanks everybody!

jarbear said:

I do think the first BB8 rolling away shot is still a little off since his proportions are a bit off. The wide shot is perfect though!

Still too small, jarbear? I increased the scale about 20%, but I could go bigger. Remember, BB-8 is much smaller than R2D2 and doesn’t go past anyone’s knees. It also has depth of field blur that racks into focus as he moves into the shot, but I could add more?

Ok, here’s a new version (V4) with a tweak to the deleted shuttle scene:
https://vimeo.com/282791574 (password: fanedit)

Addressing NeverarGreat’s comment, I tried cutting the planet shot from the deleted scene. Unfortunately, the music edit was rather abrupt going from Rose smiling to the 2nd fiery exterior.

So I tried something different. I actually liked the way the ship left the hangar (which I’ll call Exterior A) and cut to the wide shot of it flying out of the debris (Exterior B) in the theatrical version. The music was good and so was the visual flow. The way it’s cut in the deleted scene is to use Exterior A and B to bookend the interior shuttle stuff. To me it cuts way too fast from Exterior A to the interior with Finn and Rose, and is awkward at the end when it cuts back to Exterior B because the explosions and debris don’t match the interiors.

Instead, I kept the theatrical music and flow of the two exteriors as it was theatrically, and put the Finn/Rose shuttle scene after. It feels like the right timing to me, but I’m wondering how it sits with others!

Thanks for all of the good feedback!

NeverarGreat, I agree the last shot of Crait is a little empty, so one of the cuts you suggested would make sense. I’ll take another look at that!

Alrighty, here’s a new version with some sizing and color / lighting adjustments to the first BB-8 shot, as well as the deleted scene added (1st post updated):
https://vimeo.com/282740204 (password: fanedit)

Keep in mind, the rotoscoping of BB-8 itself is still rough. I want to see if the compositing can work with lighting, scale, and positioning before I go ahead and rotoscope properly in After Effects (or mocha).

Jarbear, with the deleted scene, I actually think the lack of reflective lighting and debris in the first and last shot is what stands out to me. There’s fire and explosions everywhere around them and it doesn’t seem to reflect that in the cockpit scenes. Although, I suppose everything exploding might all be behind them? The side panels don’t bother me much, though.

Here’s a rough mockup of BB-8 running to the shuttle with Finn and Rose:
https://vimeo.com/282243295 (password: fanedit)

The rotoscoping is very rough, and I just threw on some sound effects that I could quickly find, but let me know whether you think the idea could work!

I think/hope that this change combined with the Finn/Rose deleted scene could be enough to cut Phasma fight and BB8 in walker without the scene feeling incomplete. The scene would now have urgency AND resolution.

RogueLeader, that’s an impressive rough cut, and works a lot closer than I thought it would. Great job!

I agree with NeverarGreat about the geography between Finn and Rose. I think there would have to be more time between the Finn shots so it can seem like he ran a long distance.

I also think Finn’s reaction stands out as a little understated. We don’t see his face, and he doesn’t sound quite emotional enough. Still way better than I thought it would be!

NeverarGreat, I understand what you’re saying about trying to finesse the characer’s motives in the scene to make Rose’s actions make more sense. I just have trouble with the idea that crashing into your friend at that speed and angle can ever be seen as “saving” him.

Because I have trouble with Rose’s deliberate collision, the options for me are:

1. Rose crashes, which may be possible along the lines of what RogueLeager put together.
2. What I have currently: after yelling “Finn don’t do this”, we don’t see Rose again until the Millenium Falcon. It’s odd, but didn’t bother me when watching the movie in full.

That is beautifully laid out. I’ll have to think about it more but the idea makes a lot of sense! I’m not sure how any of Finn’s dialogue would work when he gets to Rose (“Why would you do that? I was almost there. Why would you stop me?”), so might be best just to cut it when he gets to her, and next see them when he drags her into base. This would mean no kiss, and no door being destroyed, unfortunately.

For BB-8, I think I might have found a shot to try, but please feel free to pass along if you see one!

Thank you for the replies and interest so far! Definitely some good feedback to consider.

And yes, you may use any ideas you want for your edits! Obviously, I’m borrowing heavily from others myself. The Space Leia removal has a shot I tweaked in after effects, so let me know, and I can send you that scene in prores.

Into the specifics (not really in order):

1) Finn / Rose Deleted Scene
I had considered adding the scene of Finn and Rose in the shuttle going back “where we belong”. It was not in Hal’s edit, but it is a nice moment to give that whole Finn / Rose adventure some closure and bonding time. It’s also a callback to the Finn / Poe added deleted scene. I will take another look at this!

2) BB8 running to shuttle
I would LOVE to add BB-8 somewhere in the shot of Finn and Rose running to the shuttle, even if far away. I would just need a good shot to roto him out of (and from a high angle moving away). Any ideas of a similar shot? Once roto’d, I think motion tracking him in should be relatively simple, considering how wide the shot is.

3) On Phasma
I should mention I don’t have a problem with Phasma at all. I like the character, and love Gwendoline Christie, I just wish they used her in a more interesting and believable way. I actually wish Finn would have outwitted her instead of fight her, and, either way, not during evacuation time! I also didn’t need to see Finn fully commit to being “Rebel scum” in this manner; I prefer his commitment being shown by his actions on Crait.

4) Finn / Rose crash
It’s not very obvious to me that you’re seeing two ships colliding, but maybe I can add a laser blast to help sell it. To me, it all happens so fast, and it’s great work by darthrush!

5) Finn dragging Rose back to base
Currently, this shot is cut, actually (updated first post so this is clear), so there’s nothing misleading, just missing: we don’t see Finn get back to base. We do see him survive the crash and run towards it, however. He next appears when Poe is figuring out Luke’s plan.

6) Rose getting shot down
I agree Rose is a bit missing in the end, and I like the idea of having her shot down at some point (and bringing back shot of Finn dragging Rose), but I think that might be too difficult to make it truly work. She would have to get shot down (using another crash shot?), Finn screams (doable), and then Finn continues on anyway? What about his turning off his coms when Rose says “Don’t do this?” Do we have to lose that moment? If she crashes after this, then he likely wouldn’t know she got hit. I like idea, but don’t yet see a way to execute it!

Overall, with Finn / Rose crash, I just can’t watch the movie with this included, because it’s so incredibly dangerous my brain rejects that Rose (or anyone) would do that. I realize it’s a movie, and there’s probably more improbable things that happen, but I feel cheated when the stakes are so low that characters can get away with stuff like this.

Thank you again for the feedback! Definitely some stuff to think about and see what I can do!

HOW TO OBTAIN THIS EDIT:

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INTRODUCTION:

Hello,

I am always amazed at the quality of work and talent on display in this forum, and it has inspired me to try my hand at tailoring an edit to my own tastes, what will be my first fan edit.

For The Last Jedi, I had a reaction similar to Hal 9000’s, and his Legendary edit is the most in line with what I want to see. It smoothly trimmed Canto Bight and was conservative with regards to cutting humor, along with a host of changes and tweaks I had never even considered that drastically improve the pacing. My favorite edit is moving the Yoda scene to just before Crait, making it the end of the 2nd act. It hammers home the lesson that failure is a teacher at the perfect moment.

However, for me there are a few scenes I still have trouble watching, scenes that take me out of the movie every time: Leia’s spacewalk, Finn vs. Phasma, BB8 piloting the imperial walker, and Rose’s “rescue” of Finn. I don’t want to be a curmudgeon, and I realize that Star Wars is lighthearted fun, but these scenes broke my suspension of disbelief and disengaged me from the story. So, with permission, I am using Hal’s edit as a base, and making a few additional changes, outlined below.

PROGRESS:

V3 RELEASED! There are two versions, one with the Palpatine additions, and a “NoPalp” version for those who don’t want the TROS tie-ins. The latest version with Palpatine is 4/20/20, and the latest “NoPalp” version is 04/05/20.

The final runtime for each is 142 minutes (credits roll at 134). Please PM me for more info.

There are four sizes to choose from for each version:

1080p Blu-Ray Quality MKV (34gb)
Video: H.264 at 30-35mbps VBR
Audio: 5.1 DTS, 5.1 Dolby Digital AC-3
Extra: English and Spanish* Subtitles and Chapter markers
*Spanish subtitles only in regular V3.

1080p High Quality MKV (10gb)
Video: H.264 at 10mbps VBR
Audio: 5.1 Dolby Digital AC-3
Extra: English and Spanish* Subtitles and Chapter markers
*Spanish subtitles only in regular V3.

720p Good Quality MKV (4gb)
Video: H.264 at 4mbps VBR
Audio: 5.1 Dolby Digital AC-3
Extra: English and Spanish* Subtitles and Chapter markers
*Spanish subtitles only in regular V3.

720p Good Quality MP4 (2gb)
Video: 1280x536 H.264 at 2mbps VBR
Audio: 5.1 AAC

Extras
For the Palpatine version, German DTSHD audio and complementary subtitles (for the deleted scenes and title crawl, which would not be covered by the German track) have been provided separately on the drive. Thank you to KetchupGore for providing these.

V3 PALPATINE TEASES:

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• Dark Side Cave 1st Appearance Sith Whispers

  • Description: added Sith whispers as the cave first calls to Rey.

• Dark Side Cave Sith Whispers and Hood

  • Description: added Sith whispers and Palpatine’s hood appears in the reflection just before Rey’s face appears.

• Flashback Palpatine Laugh (by HAL 9000 and TiMartyn)

  • Description: added Palpatine laugh to the last Luke/Kylo flashback. Thanks to Hal 9000 for providing the audio.

• Palpatine Contact

  • Description: when Kylo is in the radio room of the rebel base on Crait, he has an unexpected contact with Palpatine.

• Snoke Sith Death - Subtle

  • Description: Snoke’s eyes flash red/yellow as he’s stabbed by the lightsaber, and then a puff of blue “Palpatine essence“ releases after his body splits in half.

• Force Skype Sounds

  • Description: added some of the Palpatine Contact sounds to other Force Skype moments.

V3 NON-PALPATINE CHANGES:

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• Finn Wakes

  • Description: Rey whispers “Finn” right before he wakes up, hinting at his force sensitivity.

• Praetorian Knife Continuity Fix

  • Description: removed continuity error of knife disappearing mid-shot, also had praetorian’s knife knocked away by Rey’s lightsaer strike way in the background of earlier shot.

• Deleted Shuttle Scene Improvements

  • Description: improved reflections and particles on the wide shots, fixed 3D environment on viewscreen.

• Crait Battle Tweaks

  • Description: enhanced Finn’s “Rose” reaction to her getting shot down, rotoscoped walker to turn and flex to target Finn, reversed angle of Finn’s speeder being targeted by walker (graphic provided by smpearce1981) and modified targeting graphics, cropped Finn cockpit POV shot so walker position difference isn’t noticeable (was always off, even in theatrical), adjusted angle and position of walker so it fires down and towards Finn speeder (mockup by NeverarGreat), enhanced Finn cockpit explosion effects, added explosion effect to shot of speeder coming apart, reduced music during canon explosion, cannon beams and hum removed when Finn exits crashed speeder.

• Added Wilhelm Scream

  • Description: Wilhelm!

• Broom Boy Rebel Ring Removal

  • Description: extended shots in end sequence to cover the rebel ring shot, maintaining timing.

• (courtesy of HAL 9000) Reinstated a modified version of the balcony scene overlooking kids and horses being beaten, though removing strong hints that Finn and Rose will be able to act upon the town before they leave
  (Helps pacing and also builds on Finn and DJs talk about good vs bad sides when on ship)

V2 AND PRIOR CHANGES:

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(Original Hal 9000 changes in italics)

• Removing “mama” joke from Hux prank call

  • Description: most fan edits have heavily trimmed this scene or even removed it, but I wanted to be even more conservative about it. For me, it either needs to be long or completely cut, because a heavily trimmed version makes the stalling tactic seem kind of pointless. In the theatrical version, it’s a stalling tactic and an extremely belabored joke. In the trimmed versions, it’s a Poe character moment that serves very little actual function. I’m hoping that by just removing the "mama” joke at the end, the stall tactic makes more sense and the joke is more tolerable. I don’t think this will be a popular take.

• Trimmed Paige kicking the ladder slightly

• Very slightly trim Paige’s grabbing the detonator

  • Description: it was just a little too drawn out and didn’t even look physically possible in the original cut.

• Tweaked Music during Luke’s saber toss so it’s not a joke

  • Description: I’ve seen many edits of this scene that work well, from darthrush’s saber drop, to Ivan Ortega’s radical alterations, but I wanted to opt for something simple that didn’t change the visuals (other than adding a bit of camera movement on a couple shots). It was apparent to me that the music is a big contributor to making the moment into a joke, with a music swell leading into long awkward silence. By adjusting the music, I think the scene no longer plays as a buildup to a joke, and instead emphasizes Luke’s anger/frustration.

• Reinstated the ‘Luke Has a Moment’ deleted scene

• Cut Luke drinking milk (just that shot, not the scene)

  • Description: the look on Luke’s face while drinking was a bit off-putting and too strong coming from Luke Skywalker. I agree the purpose of the scene is to show Luke’s connection with the cycle of life (and Rey’s initial revulsion), but all of that is accomplished without Luke’s scowling look, which made it seem like he was enjoying making her uncomfortable rather than teaching her anything.

• Reinstated the deleted scene where Poe gives Finn back his jacket (with scene transition provided by OT.com user pleasehello)

• Removed Leia’s spacewalk (some edits inspired by Ivan Ortega’s version)

  • Description: this was the scene that sucked me out of the movie (no pun intended). I don’t have a problem with Leia using the force, but this moment felt like a deus ex machina that cheapened the stakes. In a movie that introduces a lot of new ideas about the power of the force, this one just didn’t work for me.

• Removed both appearances from the ‘Caretakers’ on Ach-to (with a visual effects shot courtesy of OT.com user snooker)

• Trimmed away the lone porg who gives Chewie the doughy eyes, though leaving the joke intact otherwise

• Removed Luke’s line to R2, “Nothing can make me change my mind.”

• Cut Maz’s line about having a physical relationship with the codebreaker

  • Description: this scene has a lot of issues but is critical to the plot. Even if the “labor dispute” is strange tonally, I thought at least we could remove Maz’s romantic pause about the codebreaker, which is awkward and unnecessary.

• Cut down the first sequence at Canto Bight to focus solely on finding the master codebreaker (also removing sounds of coins rattling around inside BB8 in two shots)

• Blended the original Anakin lightsaber ignition sound with the existing different sounds for two shots

• Made it appear as though Finn and Rose follow DJ out of the cell, briefly elude the guards, and the scene ends. Next time we see the trio, they are already in hyperspace (also removing the implication in the later scene that BB8 helped steal the ship).

• Added a center wipe transition from the scene with Finn, Rose, and DJ in hyperspace to the fleet losing their medical frigate

• Used a few shots from a deleted scene to remove the iron/spaceship gag, which borrowed from an old spoof which laughed at Star Wars rather than along with Star Wars (film speck removed by OT.com user poppasketti)

• Trimmed some of the comedy with BB8 being placed under a basket

• Recut Snoke’s death to trim his monologue and refocus the moment on Rey and Kylo-Ren (originally created for Hal’s Legendary edit)

• Removed Finn fighting Phasma and BB-8 in imperial walker

  • Description: while the ship is crumbling around them, we pause for a boss battle between Finn and Phasma. It just didn’t feel necessary and hurt the pacing. BB-8 commandeering an imperial walker looked plain silly to me, so that whole scene was cut. Now we go from Finn and Rose running towards the shuttle to the shuttle flying out of the ship. BB-8 was rotoscoped into these shots so we understand he got on board as well. Phasma’s body was also tracked into the shot so we know she was likely killed in the explosion. The deleted shuttle scene of Finn and Rose heading back “where we belong” was restored here as well. Not only does it give more resolution to Finn and Rose’s now-trimmed escape, it’s also a callback to the restored deleted scene when Poe gives Finn his jacket.

• V3 changes: added debris, reflections, and particle effects to enhance deleted shots.

• Moved the scene with Luke and Yoda to immediately prior to Leia looking out over Crait (using audio and video provided by OT.com user Darthrush)

• Cut Finn’s reference to “miniature Death Star tech” (but kept Poe’s “A what now?”)

• Removed Rose’s suicidal “rescue” of Finn and their dialogue after (based on darthrush’s The Dark Cut)

  • Description: this sequence was poorly conceived and for me ruined the heroic effort by Finn. Rose says she saved Finn by colliding with him at full speed in a move that should have killed them both. Then she makes a speech about how you should save the ones you love, which is what he was trying to do in the first place. Using several VFX shots, the sequence is now as follows:
    • Rose is shot down just after Finn says “No, I won’t let them win.”
      (using ideas from several OT.com users including RogueLeader and big_gareth, and a VFX shot from big_gareth)
    • Finn yells “Rose” over the radio during a reaction shot from Poe, cut to Finn flipping his headset up while looking distraught. This works for me because it adds motivation for Finn’s actions. The situation seems hopeless and he is desperate.
    • Finn continues on towards the cannon.
    • Finn gets shot down by an imperial walker at the last second. (usings ideas and FX from darthrush)
    • Finn gets out of his cockpit and yells for “Rose”. The next time we see them Finn is dragging Rose back to base saying “she’s hurt pretty bad.”
    • Rotoscoped Finn and Rose out of battering ram cannon firing and explosion. Added reaction shot of Kylo-Ren.
      • V3 changes: enhanced Finn’s “Rose” reaction to her getting shot down, rotoscoped walker to turn and flex to target Finn, reversed angle of Finn’s speeder being targeted by walker (graphic provided by smpearce1981) and modified targeting graphics, cropped Finn cockpit POV shot so walker position difference isn’t noticeable (was always off, even in theatrical), adjusted angle and position of walker so it fires down and towards Finn speeder (mockup by NeverarGreat), enhanced Finn cockpit explosion effects, added explosion effect to shot of speeder coming apart, reduced music during canon explosion, cannon beams and hum removed when Finn exits crashed speeder.

• The crate Luke sits on as he talks with Leia is now stationary and motionless, unaffected by him (effect provided by OT.com user poppasketti)

• Trimmed Hux ordering fighters to follow the Falcon, leaving this poor tactical move to be attributed to Kylo Ren’s emotional priorities

• Removed Finn’s line, “Oh, they hate that ship!”

• Removed spot on the sun as Luke gazes out after collapsing, which caused some presumably inadvertent misdirection for some upon first viewing (courtesy of OT.com user poppasketti)

SPECIAL THANKS!

Since I’m building off of Hal 9000’s excellent Legendary edit, I felt it appropriate to include his special thanks to those who helped with his edit through feedback and work, as well as adding the names of those that helped with my own version.

Everyone at OriginalTrilogy.com who contributed, including:
Hal 9000 (Legendary edit, ideas and guidance)
DarthRush (FX shot and ideas)
big_gareth (FX shot and ideas)
smpearce1981 (FX shot and ideas)
Pleasehello (FX shot)
Snooker (FX shot)
ChainsawAsh (DTS audio advice and overall QC)
MalàStrana (English subtitles; poppasketti conformed for Rekindled edit)
PodracingThisIs91 (Spanish subtitles)
KetchupGore (German DTSHD audio and complementary subtitles)
jarbear (ideas)
RogueLeader (ideas)
NeverarGreat (ideas)
FreezingTNT2 (ideas)
Ivan Ortega (ideas)
Axios (ideas)
ziggyonice (qc)
revstevens (qc)
InitAbsolute (qc)
idir_hh
TiMartyn
krausfadr
Siliconmaster482
StarkillerAG
Anakin Starkiller
Jar Jar Bricks
Darth Muffy
stevepaynter
IlFanEditore
Natedug
jeebus
HyperDown
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Noodle_Finger (editor behind a prior edit of TLJ)

I also must thank my wife for sitting with me through several viewings, making valuable suggestions (how to fix “Space Leia” to name one example), and being patient with me throughout!

Whoa, I hear it! Wait, so did you add 2 Wilhelm screams? Because I definitely hear one in the scene DZ-330 references. I can give timecode if we want to drop all mystery. 😉

I have to go back and watch again, but pretty sure it wasn’t during the Luke and Kylo fight. And what I remember is it was a trooper.

Bobson Dugnutt said:

I have no idea why you think out of all scenes that the Hologram Circus one was needing to be more impactful or that Duel of the Fates was the track of choice. But I made it for some reason and boy howdy does Duel of the Fates not fit at all.
Maybe we should add Binary Sunset to the cooking show sequence so that it really resonates with audiences. Or perhaps The Asteroid Field over the Mini-transmitter Instructional Video to increase the tension. The possibilities are endless!

https://vimeo.com/281128244

A masterwork! Thank you thank you thank you!

People rag on the Holiday Special, but I’ve always felt with the right music choices, it really can be an epic. And I love your other ideas, Mr. Dugnutt. Perhaps Battle of the Heroes in place of the Jefferson Starship? Or is that scene untouchable? Either way, I look forward to seeing your edit!

Fair enough. I don’t think I agree with the idea, but it will definitely be interesting to see!

Many of his other edits are excellent, but I think overall this cut will be too radical for me.