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MalàStrana said:

Hum… you got my interest man. Poppasketti, could you PM me a link ? Thanks in advance !

PM sent!

For that, you can use Adobe Media Encoder. Drag in the master file, set the format to H.264, and you can start with the preset “match source - high bitrate”. Then go into the video tab, and you can raise the bitrate even more to something like botox1 was suggesting, 15 mbps.

I assume the audio is stereo? If so, you should be able to leave the setting as is, which should be AAC 320 kbps.

If all you need is H.264 video with stereo audio, the resulting mp4 should be fine. If you want to add separate chapter markers and subtitles you can mux those in with something like mkvtoolnix, which would result in an mkv.

Morphzero said:

It wouldn’t be a good idea to go with Prores, because making a distribution copy would result in another lossy conversion on top of that.

Fair enough. Thought it might be a good balance between the 50gb per 10 minutes he was getting. From my format calculator, uncompressed 8-bit at SD 59.94 should be about 24gb per 10 mins. That would be a good lossless option.

I also recommend prores as a mastering codec. While technically not lossless, the results are fantastic and efficient (10 minutes of 59.94 SD should be about 10gb at prores HQ).

The mp4 settings listed above by botox1 would also look great for distribution.

I wouldn’t change the bitdepth out of the default. I think the confusion here comes from Adobe. They list total bit depth instead of bit depth per channel (channels being Red, Green, Blue, and Alpha). So with RGB footage at 8bits per channel, you have a total of 24bits. Most software, however, would simply call this 8-bit or 8bpc.

ChainsawAsh said:
I’ll have some actual free time over the holiday weekend, so if you want another set of eyes on your edit for QC before you officially release it, shoot me a PM, I should be able to watch it and give you notes on any issues that jump out to me by Sunday.

This is so much appreciated, I will definitely try and get you something to QC in the next few days if I can!

ChainsawAsh said:
Also, if you’re working with lossless audio and want a DTS encode (though sadly not DTS-HD), I can do that for you once your audio is finalized, provided you can give me each individual audio channel as a mono AIFF or WAV file.

Also extremely appreciate offering to encode the DTS. I did do a DTS encode using ffmpeg (bitrate: 1509.75k), and it sounded good to me, but it would be great to have the extra ears. It will be included (along with AC3 at 640k) if/when I get you the file this week, and if you think your encoder would improve the quality, I would greatly appreciate it! I am using lossless audio.

oojason said:

Personally, I’m a fan of the milk drinking scene - for me it’s part of Luke demonstrating the Force (the nature of it; in the cycle of life and nurture - along with the fishing)

I agree with this, which I why I didn’t want to cut the whole scene. Luke’s milking the alien for me is enough to suggest his connection with nature and the force. The shot of Luke actually drinking it with the scornful look on his face (as if he was deliberately trying making Rey uncomfortable) felt a little too strong to me. Rey was already uncomfortable, so, for me, the purpose of the scene is already achieved without having Luke rub it in her face.

ChainsawAsh said:

…but have you started a thread like this one in their Fanedits In-The-Works section? That would get you a little bit more visibility and allow your edit submission to stand out among the dozens sitting in the queue waiting to be reviewed by the Academy…

That’s a good suggestion! I was hoping to keep just this thread here to keep everything consolidated, but I may have to expand into FE.org to get that moving. I think in the next week after I have a full release here, I will setup a page and focus harder on getting that submision. Thank you for your help!

Hello,

I finally got to sit down and watch a final render for QC! I caught a couple of black frames, and 1-2 small adjustments to the mix I would like to make. Otherwise, I am pretty happy with the film.

My wife had two small suggestions that I would like to bounce off of the people here to see what you think!

One is to remove Luke drinking the milk, as the creepy face is very off-putting coming from Luke Skywalker. I agree that’s part of the point (to show Luke has become a recluse), but surely the rest of his behavior is sufficient and doesn’t need this particular shot. Here is the attempt:
https://vimeo.com/301528585
pw: fanedit

The other suggestion was to remove Maz Kamata’s reference to her sexual relationship with the codebreaker. It was distracting (and odd considering she was in some kind of battle), so I gave that an effort too. It doesn’t completely work with 3PO’s head movement, but it may be worth it to remove the line? Take a look:
https://vimeo.com/301528616
pw: fanedit

I’m not 100% attached to either of these changes, but I’d be interested to see what others think.

Thank you and I hope to post within a week or so!

Also, regarding FE.org submission, I have not heard back from DominicCobb, and my first PM to him was 2 weeks ago. I sent a follow-up three or so days ago. Could there be something I am doing wrong, or should I keep waiting? Any advice would be appreciated! I’m not in any rush, just thought it was a long time without reply.

I think regardless of which lightsaber is used in the scene, having Luke appear as a force projection is more powerful, because it was the only way he could live up to his legend. He never could have faced down the entire First Order, as he said earlier, but he could outwit them with his cunning. This scene resonated very strongly for me (it’s actually one of my favorite scenes of the entire saga). The cinematography, music, and dialogue (“The rebellion is reborn today”) all reinforced Luke’s legendary status.

I am interested in seeing Ivan’s extended fight, but it’s more out of curiosity to see if he can pull it off. Storywise, however, it turns the scene into another boss battle. It’s also illogical, because Kylo-Ren decides to fight Luke by himself despite having his whole army behind him (assuming Ivan is cutting out all of the walkers firing at Luke).

ChainsawAsh said:

Nah, you’re good to release it here if you want. FE submission is about getting it (and yourself!) listed in the IFDb, not about exclusivity or anything like that.

Thank you, that’s good to know! Now, I just need to watch it down a couple of times, check encoding quality, and QC as best I can.

HyperDown said:

Can’t wait to check this one out!

Should be soon! I appreciate the enthusiasm!

jarbear said:

If I could give you guidance I would! I am not that technical. I really hope someone has the answer or is willing to help!

I am very curious and excited to see the final product! Cheers!

Thanks, jarbear! I actually woke up this morning and mkvtoolnix had just finished a 32gb mkv! The 5.1 DTS, 5.1 AC-3, subtitles and chapters all worked perfectly. The H.264 out of compressor looks great to me, but I’m doing testing with ffmpeg to see if that makes any difference.

I’m also waiting to hear back from FE.org about making a submission, but does anyone know if I must wait for FE.org approval before releasing it here? Would it somehow disqualify me if I announce it’s release on OT.com? I didn’t see anything in the rules about that.

snooker said:

I also hate his bullshit constant ‘Kathleen Kennedy/Rian Johnson/Disney are EVILLL!!’ videos.

100% agree with this. I enjoyed his early videos when he walked you through his changes and I do think he made some brilliant edits, but the ranting and hatred against Kennedy and Johnson are frustrating. It riles up an element of the fanbase that disliked the movie (which is fair) but tends to place the blame on, diversity, feminism (or “blatant feminism” as one user wrote), and social messaging in the story.

Read the comments to those rant videos, and you’ll never see the word “SJW” appear so many times.

To be clear, I don’t think Ivan is prejudiced, but I do think at times he fans the flames of those that are.

I went to the First Time Faneditor Submission page at FE.org, which told me to contact DominicCobb, so I sent him a PM over there. I also read the rules, and they all make sense. So, hopefully, I’m on the right track towards a submission!

Thanks again to everyone for the help, feedback, and advice. It’s been a very fun and enlightening process!

Thank you all for the encouragement! I will look into the rules and steps needed for FE.org submission.

stretch009 said:

I’m curious, are you submitting your edit to the site fanedit.org?

I’ve thought about it, but I’m not as familiar with the site. OT.com is my fanedit home, having gotten hooked many years ago by Harmy’s Despecialized Editions. It’s where I’m most comfortable, and where I prioritize sharing work.

However, I do wonder about fanedit.org. If I may flip it around on you, do you think I should submit it? Since my edit is so heavily based on Hal 9000’s Legendary edit, would it even make sense?

This project is in the homestretch, with subtitles, chapters, and the edit all complete!

I just have a technical question that I hope someone here can help me with:

I’ve noticed duration discrepancies between Premiere Pro and media players like VLC, and I think it has to do with timecode. For example, my Blu-ray copy of the Last Jedi (completely raw rip from disc, no re-encoding) has a total duration of 2:31:42 in Premiere and After Effects. In VLC, Blu-ray player app, and iMediaHUD, the duration is 2:31:51. So the non-editing apps say the film is 9 seconds longer than in Premiere. The frame-rate reads as 23.976 in all of these applications, and those have been my settings through the entire project workflow.

This is an issue because the Chapters XML from the disc conforms to the longer duration timecode (the one seen in VLC). So when I edited the Chapters XML to conform to my edit using the timecodes out of Premiere, the timing was off (the End Credits chapter mark was about 9 seconds before the actual end credits hit).

And here’s the kicker: if I switch the timebase in Premiere from 23.976 to 24 even, the total duration of my Premiere sequence matches the longer durations in VLC and iMediaHUD (2:31:51 for the raw unedited Blu-ray).

So, is VLC and the Blu-ray app simply displaying a 24 timebase instead of 23.976? If so, why would the chapters XML conform to that timebase instead of the frame-rate of the video (which always reads 23.976)?

I see this discrepancy on every single version of the film I have: original Bluray disc, Hal’s TLJ:Legendary, and my latest export of workprint 2. I’ve not had any audio sync issues, either. It’s only really an issue with making the Chapters XML. I can easily work around this, but I don’t like seeing discrepancies and a lack of continuity between apps. So any guidance would greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much in advance!

This thread may have gone too far in a few places

nightstalkerpoet said:

I hate to be “that guy”, but just in case noone on the team has caught it, the site name is misspelled at the end.

Otherwise, beautiful trailer!

Fortunately, it’s Vimeo so they should be able to replace the video without having to send out a new link.

This does look amazing!

Just a small update: I uploaded a second version of Workprint 2 with Dolby Digital AC-3 audio instead of the AAC. This should have better surround compatibility.

Thanks so much for everyone’s feedback and interest (got a lot of PMs!). I’ve already begun prepping for a Blu-ray release, with subtitles, chapter markers, 5.1 DTS and AC-3 audio. Feedback still welcome!

Hello everyone, I am pleased to say that workprint 2 is available now!

If you asked me previously for a link, I should have already sent you the new workprint. Otherwise, please PM me for a link. (if someone knows a better way to distribute this, please let me know!)
I am also happy to provide links for individual scenes/edits in full quality.

The first post is updated with the full list of total changes, and here’s a list of the changes unique to the second workprint:

• Hal’s color correction from The Last Jedi: Legendary has been applied to the whole film.

• Tweaked Music during Luke’s saber toss so it’s not a joke. Extended the existing score so it doesn’t have that hard sting to silence before Luke tosses it.

• I slightly tweaked the end of the “Luke Has a Moment” scene musically, because it felt like there was an extra note in there during the transition from Luke to Leia.

• Slightly tweaked exterior FX shot after the Raddus bridge explosion (with Leia).

• Rotoscoped BB-8 into two shots of Finn and Rose running towards shuttle, fixing the continuity issue created by cutting BB-8 commandeering the imperial walker.

• Rose now gets shot down just before Finn’s suicide run, adding motivation for Finn, and fixes continuity issue of Rose disappearing for the rest of the film.
  (using ideas from several OT.com users including RogueLeader and big_gareth, and a VFX shot from big_gareth)

• New lighting FX in cockpit when Finn gets shot down.

• Removed second skimmer (in what was originally Rose crashing into Finn) from two crash shots.

• Showed battering ram canon firing by rotoscoping Finn and Rose out of shot.

• Added reaction shot to explosion of Kylo-Ren. Also added lighting FX on the wide explosion shot after so it’s not jarring.

• Restored shot of Finn dragging Rose back to base (this had been removed for first workprint because Rose was not involved in any crash in WP1).

• Added very small font identifying this edit as “The Last Jedi: Rekindled” after the credits.

How about inserting a couple of these during Hux / Kylo Ren scenes.

I was specifically thinking when Ren is choking Hux.

I’m glad there’s excitement here! Thanks to everyone for their help and feedback. It’s been a really fun collaboration!

I’m just waiting on a couple of things to finish the 5.1 mix for the second workprint. That way, I can check and get feedback on both the video and audio mix.

I also just moved and haven’t had as much time this past week. Hope to have something ready soon!

jarbear said:

I do like that better, the pacing is better.

Here is a question for eveyone as well … should there be some kind of music in the background instead of the silence? Kind of gloom and doom subtle music? In some ways too it almost seems anti climatic since it’s so quiet … unless that just me!

That’s a great question. I sort of felt that the climax was Finn getting shot down. And the next couple of shots benefitted from a sparser mix, letting the firing and explosion own the stage. At the same time, I can see how it may still be too long without music, and makes the explosion anti-climactic, So I’ve put together something that has a little more rumbling build-up to the explosion. It doesn’t take away from the Finn moment, but serves as an extension (I think) of the climax, building to the inevitable.

Here it is:
https://vimeo.com/289775362 (PW: fanedit)

The clip is the same length, so I would start at 1:10 to see the new part.

I’ve trimmed the Poe shot as suggested, and tweaked the music a bit to try and make it a more fluid scene. Here’s the updated Version 2B link!

https://vimeo.com/288986920 (PW: fanedit)

I definitely agree with you, jarbear and NeverarGreat. At the very least, the shot of Poe needs to be trimmed a bit. There was something interesting about having the explosion happen off-camera because the musical/emotional climax happens when Finn gets shot down. I do like being able to show the actual blast, though, as I think it would be odd for a Star Wars film not to show it. Hopefully, trimming the Poe shot does the trick. If not, I’ll have to find some music to bridge the gap. Next chance I get, I will play with this.

Thanks for everyone’s feedback! It means a great deal to me and is very helpful to have such interest!

Good suggestions! I decided to actually just remove the shuttle from the existing shot. This fixes the geography issue and also makes it a unique shot (as opposed to duplicated and scaled in). The Version 2B link has been updated:

https://vimeo.com/288986920 (PW: fanedit)