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Yes, there are a lot of splices on the print unfortunately, so quite a few missing frames.

The crawl on ANH is in English on this print, on ESB it is in French.

Here is a sample of the audio at 25fps. I haven't had a chance to check it yet.

http://tinyurl.com/ANHREEL1

The reason is that I have access to a 25fps sync pulse signal, and not a 24fps one.

The reason that some systems have a 25fps lock is for transfer to PAL.

If people would prefer I can do an unlocked roughly 24fps sound capture, but it may be trickier to sync up.

And the Tech IB's I have seen look quite different to the scans on this page as well.

Oh, and a lot of explosions and flashes *are* magenta on the original prints.

Chasing the theatrical colours is tricky, different labs produced prints with quite different colour, even back in '77, and DrDre is right, the home releases have little relation to the theatrical releases as far as colour goes.

Do you have the actual film, or is this a scan that has already been done?

^ Oh sheet yeah.

Sounds like fun.

Well done. Might be worth the couple of dollars to get the copies made, you never no what might be hiding in the notes, sometimes just a single word can shed new light.

Shit, didn't think of that.

That is brilliant.

Check your PMs :)

Fair enough, take it outside!

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/I-like-your-old-stuff-better-than-your-new-stuff/topic/18202/

Movies used to be great, now they suck!

Discuss.

You don't get to buy an extra vowel just because you are hirsute.

joefavs said:

what's the noun for "crotchety"? Is it "crotchetiness"? If so, the crotchetiness is strong with this thread.

 Crotchetivity..ness..ation.

and I am pretty sure I am older than all you young punks!

Now get off my lawn.

Oh wait, it is Mike's lawn... how did I get here... where's my hat?

Plus you get old, you have heard the stories before, no matter how good the writing. Assuming you didn't happen to see an absolute dog, the first heist film you see is always the best. The first 'gone girl' type psycho thriller you see is always the best. Quite often the case for SciFi and other genres. The first cut is the deepest...

The other problem is that movies will never again have the impact on society that they did before the 1980s, no matter how great they might be.

When I saw Star Wars in 1977, I had no idea what it was about, there was an oddly cryptic trailer, and that was about it.

When I saw it, my mind was blown. If I wanted to see it again, the only way was to head back to the cinema, and even then, once it left the cinema, it was quite possible that I would never get to see it again!

There was no home video, no VHS or DVD, bugger all on television, and the truly gigantic television that our neighbours owned was a whopping 27 inches in size.

Movies were something you could only see occasionally, there wasn't much else out there as story telling goes, so a good story and amazing visuals would sear into your brain like nothing else could. It was a huge experience.

Now, there are so many ways to consume movies, we watch, many, many more than even the hardest of hard core movie buffs did before the 1980s. Story telling has increased in quality with the explosion of higher quality television series where you can develop characters and stories over 10s or even hundreds of hours, they are the novels of the visual world, instead of the little haikus that movies are.

Never again will movies hold the kind of power, influence and spectacle that they did before that time, partially just because they literally cannot, as the world has changed.

I enjoy movies more now than I did ten years ago, I practice good movie hygiene, I don't watch trailers, I avoid internet reviews, I don't follow the actors' private lives and I don't watch any behind the scenes until after I have been to see the film. It lets me enjoy movies much more, and in a similar way to how they impacted me when I was younger, but it is still a paler experience than before, and that has as much to do with the changes in the non-movie world as those within it.

ww12345 said:

Really? Well, I won't hold it against you... lol

To be fair, I never saw it. Was it really that good?

 Going in, you know it isn't going to be a Cohen Brothers film, and if you set your mind that way, it is a shitload of fun. Giant Battleships, getting the USS Missouri out of retirement, really old Navy Guys entering the fray, guns, guns, GUNS, big mofo GUNS being loaded by hand. Fun writing, surprisingly good performances. I didn't know who Rhianna was, and thought she was possibly actual Navy. Guy with prosthetic legs is actually a veteran with prosthetic legs, great Geek moment with a briefcase...

It is just big, stupid fun, like Pacific Rim. Switch the brain off and enjoy the show.

ww12345 said:

Yeah, those stupid, sucky movies. I long for the good ol' '00s, with classic films like "Battleship," "Transformers," and any of the "Fast and Furious" franchise... :)

 Awww. I the naughties weren't all bad, I enjoyed Match Point, Requiem for a Dream, Before Sunset, Children of Men, Million Dollar Baby, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Borat, WALL.E, No Country for Old Men, High Fidelity, The Red Balloon, Iraq in Fragments, Whale Rider, L'Enfant, Donnie Darko, Millions, Ghost Dog, Pan's Labyrinth, In the Loop, UP, The Royal Tenenbaums, Lost in Translation, Some movies about a Ring or something, Zodiac, and a bunch more I enjoyed but probably can't think of.

I frigging loved Battleship.

I know, I know, I know... but... BATTLESHIP!

Oh weird, the wookie and I just used the same phrase.

A lot of early HD transmissions were just upscales, but hey, it is definitely worth a shot.

It is just that I can lock the sound system to 25fps, if I run it at 24, the speed varies more, so I figured probably better to capture at a consistent speed, and adjust it after capture, rather than capture at a more variable speed.

Yeah, only shitty movies from the 80s like Empire Strikes Back, Indianna Jones, Ghostbusters, Aliens, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Down by Law, Full Metal Jacket, The Shining, Platoon, The Breakfast Club, Back to the Future, Raging Bull, Scarface, E.T. , Princess Bride, Gremlins, Poltergeist, Evil Dead, Stand by me, The Thing, Die Hard, Robocop, and (Insert David Lynch film here).

AntcuFaalb said:

I'll do my write-up tomorrow. I've got to go to bed!

 That is a l-o-n-g 24 hours ;^P

Mag sound is often considerably better than optical sound.

Mag 35 can be miles ahead of analogue optical 35mm.

However, it depends so much on the mastering process, the quality of the optical printer etc. etc.

Some interesting notes from a film maker here:

https://www.questia.com/magazine/1P3-1276641111/new-improved-16mm-sound

Some ugly, but informative reading is here:

http://www.sfu.ca/~gotfrit/ZAP_Sept.3_99/f/fsnd_lect_16mm_mix.html

Sound isn't my strong suit, so I could be way off, but I find 16mm tends to be missing most of the high end, and some of the low.