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#485265
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Info Wanted: The many releases of Star Wars...
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The ORIGINAL theatrical versions were NEVER released on DVD.

The 2006 DVDs don't include the theatrical versions, but the 1993 laserdisc versions. They have a new audio mix (from 1993), different color timing, different editing (missing frames) ... The SW DVD is actually a merge of the 1993 laserdisc version with a 1977 theatrical opening crawl.

Star Wars had more official releases.

The most notable was the 1981 theatrical re-release, when they renamed the movie from "Star Wars" to "Star Wars Episode IV : A New Hope", created a brand new crawl, reworked the opening sequence ...

The 1985 home video release had a new sound mix, and there was also this 1993 laserdisc which had many small changes (both video and audio) which ended up being a source for the official "GOUT".

There are also many fullscreen "pan and scan" versions and every one has a different "frame composition"

 

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#484047
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STAR WARS V8 - A Final Attempt (Released)
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I have downloaded about 30% of the torrent yet and I'm watching it via VLC.

I must tell you something - this is THE Star Wars I remember. And this is also the BEST Star Wars preservation DVD I have seen. Everything looks so nice, much better than the official "GOUT" DVD, even when it has a lot of grain and noise.

 

I LOVE the brightness. All the "remastered" SW releases are very dark, both the '93 LD and the SE, but I always remember these movies being bright and full of colours . Speaking about the colors - they COULD need much more saturation, but the main important things is - Luke's saber is BLUE.

Well, ALMOST BLUE, but not "white with some thin blue border", and definitely not green. Is this how the LD looks or was this color-corrected ?

 

Thanks Arnie for making this, I can't wait to be able to watch the whole disc

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#481005
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Colour problem with CCE
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ChainsawAsh said:

Are you talking about the letterboxing?  Crop it out completely, color correct the source so it's at 16-235, then add in new black bars that are at 16 IRE.

You might also have to do more radical color correction to the SE source if it's been rendered in the wrong color space in order to make it look right.

I've been already thinking about it

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#480993
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Colour problem with CCE
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There are 2 problems :

1) I'm joining 2 sources together - one (SE DVD - sourced) has black bars really black (0, 0, 0), the second one (GOUT upsized to anamorphic and color corrected) has black bars (16, 16, 16)

2) I have done color correction of this problematic source, and the only way how the colors look "natural" is with the 0-255 "range". In other words, the avs script looks great while playing it, but the colors of the resulting mpv file look pretty bad

 

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#480796
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Colour problem with CCE
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I have a problem with blacks. Don't fear, I'm not an racist, but I have a serious colour problem when I'm trying to do my little "project" :-)

 

Simply, the colour of the black bars is not black, it's (16, 16, 16), no matter what I try. When I open the Avisynth script in e.g. VirtualDubMod, the black bars are really black (0,0,0) but the resulting mpg2 is (16,16,16).

 

I remember I had this problems many years ago when I was doing my version 1.0 of Star Wars, but I think the solution was to change the Luminance Level value in Cinema Craft Encoder's Video Settings, but it doesn't help.

It doesn't matter if I select the Luminance Level to 16-235 or 0-255, the result is always the same.

 

Any tips for this ? Thanks

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#479265
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2006 SE/GOUT hybrid script project - UPDATE: 05-24-11 see 1st & 2nd post...
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Fine, I checked it with small modifications for PAL

 

swse=mpeg2source("d:\STAR_WARS_EPISODE_IV\VIDEO_TS\se.d2v").AssumeFPS(23.976).Lanczos4Resize(720, 480).trim(711,0).ConvertToYV12()

sw=mpeg2source("d:\STAR_WARS_GOUT\VIDEO_TS\new.d2v").AssumeFPS(23.976).Lanczos4Resize(720, 480).trim(689,0).ConvertToYV12()

optitle=mpeg2source("d:\STAR_WARS_GOUT\VIDEO_TS\new.d2v").AssumeFPS(23.976).Lanczos4Resize(720, 480).trim(0,688).crop(6,102,-2,-104).NNEDI2(dh=true, field=0).NNEDI2(dh=false,field=1).spline64resize(720,366).ConvertToYV12()#

 

 

And in the end ....

 

borders=edit1.ConvertToYUY2().addborders(0,57,0,57)

return borders.Lanczos4Resize(720, 576).AssumeFPS(25)

 

 

In other words, I had to slow down every video source to 23.976 fps and resize it to 720x480, but then I had to convert the colorspace to YV12, or else I got an error message,

At the end I had to convert it to YUY2() (again an error message if I kept the video in YV12) , resize it to 720x576 and speed it up to 25fps.

 

The resulting video looks very nice, but there are several problems

 

1) My blockade runner scene is still blue. Less blue than the original SE footage, but much more blue than your pic (differences in PAL / NTSC sources ??? )

2) The GOUT colors are NOT the correct representation of the theatrical version, the GOUT video is red-shifted. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea at all to make a very basic video correction before any processing ?

3) You missed some SE changes, check doubleofive's list

4) Saturation increase would be a good idea :-)

5) The "Move along, move along" sequence has a small repeating segment, first time it includes the footage from the SE, then the same part from the gout. I don't know if it's an error with your script or if it's again a difference between the PAL and GOUT versions.

Still, a VERY good script