pittrek

Disc 1

The Cries of the Trees

The Haunted Village

Rampage of the Phlogs

Disc 2

To Save Deej

The Travelling Jindas

The Tree of Light

Disc 3

The Curse of the Jindas

The Land of the Gupins

Sunstar vs. Shadowstone

Disc 4

Wicket's Wagon

The Three Lessons

Blue Harvest

Disc 5 is not done yet, I want to do it today. It will include the episode Asha, and some bonus - I am sorting right now all the stuff I received, part of it will go to the Season 1 box set, the rest will go to the Season 2 box set.

All episodes come from your VHS tapes, I've just done a bit of cleanup + I added back the opening and closing credits to each episode. The exception is of course the episode "The 3 Lessons", which is re-created from your OTR video + the unknown DivX source.

Technical data

Video : PAL mpg2 with avg. bitrate 8Mbps, interlaced with top field first

Audio : Dolby Digital 2.0 (AC3 256 kbps)

I'd like to put it on myspleen next weekend

Also I would prefer to keep them in one case, which means either in a 6-DVD case, or in a 5-DVD case. Or do you have other preferences ? Maybe it would be a good idea to do 2 variants ? One for the people who want to keep every disc in a separate case, and one for the people who want to keep it all together ? Or is it way too much work.

PS sorry for the Godzilla reference, I just loved the animated show when I was a kid, and "Where is Godzilla when we need him" was used almost as often as "I have a bad feeling about this" :-)

Oh where is Godzilla  Fritz when we need him ? :-) If he won't read this I will send him a mail if he can make bigger scans

Is this good enough ? http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6HI2CXY5

If not, I hope VideoCollector is able to better scans from his tapes

Raw scans of what exactly ?

It was a HUGE amount of work, so I made it the simple way. There were many short cuts on the "On The Run" video, and with "short" I mean 4-8 frames. But in some scenes, the OTR video was a few frames LONGER. I don't understand it, did every TV station edited each episode differently ? Was this a common practice in US TV ?

I mostly ignored these brief cuts, otherwise I would work on it MUCH longer. However always, when a whole "scene" was cut from the OTR video, I have added the missing bit from the AVI source.

So, anybody want to do some cover ? :-)

Hooray ! The most boring and stupid villain comes back ! Such a brilliant idea !

Who cares he was cut in 2 halves, he's back baby !

I have a problem with episode 11 - The Three Lessons.

This episode was never released on VHS AFAIK, so we searched a lot to get a nice version from somewhere. Fritz was so good that he provided me with the recording from "On The Run Video" - http://shop.ontherunvideo.com/product.sc?productId=124&categoryId=3

I have resized it, removed the logo (well at least I tried), but I noticed immediately that it's too short. Luckily I have also my old DivX source downloaded from a torrent (that means I have no idea where it comes from).

The DivX source has the standard length (cca 22 minutes), so I of course thought I will simply use it to fill the gaps in the OTR version, but then I realised that the DivX versions is a DIFFERENT CUT ! It's notable during the opening credits, the title and the writer are shown in a completely different spot ! Also, some sections are 4 frames longer on one source, while others are 4 frames longer on the second source.

Well since I'm not doing it only for myself, I would like to read your opinion what should I do next. The possibilities are

1) To make a combination of both sources, where the old DivX source will be used ONLY for complete "scenes" and not just the short 4-frames parts

2) To use the "On the run video" version with the other episodes and to use the old DivX source with the bonus features

3) To use the DivX source with the episodes, and the OTR version as a bonus.

What do you people prefer ? I am thinking about number 2.

Also, I'd still need some covers and disc labels :-)

The CGI Yoda is terrible, terrible, terrible

A stupid question, but are you THIS Mike Verta ? http://www.mikeverta.com/

I am sorry, I'm not sure if the prequel changes were mentioned before, but this page has interesting information about the BluRay changes of Episode I :

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=123195

Episode II

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=929191

Episode III

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=879092

Did they release for a very first time the THEATRICAL version on a digital video format ? Or have they done some audio changes ?

Plus the old trilogy, but that one was pretty much covered already

Episode IV

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=17542

Episode V

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=913207

Episode VI

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=403598

SilverWook said:

pittrek said:

Is this broadcast recording different from the official LD / VHS ?

I had one big "problem" with these sets, I plan to "release" them as 2 5-DVD sets, but you can't buy cases for 5 DVDs, only for 6 :-) So original / alternate  versions of these 2 movies would be the perfect DVD 6 for every set :-)

Been a while since I've watched either version, but the one visual difference is the closing credits. Broadcast version credits run over a freeze frame of the Endor sky, LD/MGM home video release is over a black screen.

OK so if I understand you correctly, there are 3 different versions of the first movie, and the only (known) difference is in the opening/closing credits, correct ?

Would / could you do a transfer of both versions please ?

AvP said:

pittrek said:

you can't buy cases for 5 DVDs, only for 6

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-PACK-NEW-STANDARD-BLACK-5-WAY-DVD-CD-CASES-/140443441394?pt=UK_Home_Garden_CD_DVDStorage_SM&hash=item20b314d8f2

Wow. I have to show it to a certain person in a certain shop, who was arguing with me that no such thing exists :)

Will you update the website Mike ?

Is this broadcast recording different from the official LD / VHS ?

I had one big "problem" with these sets, I plan to "release" them as 2 5-DVD sets, but you can't buy cases for 5 DVDs, only for 6 :-) So original / alternate  versions of these 2 movies would be the perfect DVD 6 for every set :-)

SilverWook said:

Images of the Kenner toy line might be cool.

Do you have them ? I know they were on the old starwars.com but it was lost after the redesign before I was able to download them

marioxb said:

Personally, I would just call it what it is, Ewoks: The Complete Animated Series.

 

A good extra would also be Return of the Ewok and the bits of the of the original versions of the two Ewok movies that were changed as seen here:

 

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/398347-lucas-changes-star-wars-again-ewok-adventures-dvd.html

Yeah, I'll probably stick with something like "Ewoks : The Complete Animated Series".

Return Of The Ewok - what is the best available source for this ? I have OCP's version which looks pretty shitty and is a mixture of 2 sources, did a better version appear somewhere ?

Does ANYBODY have the ORIGINAL version of the Ewok movies ? I read some time ago that the opening credits are new on both movies on the DVDs, but I didn't see any "photographic evidence" till now, so a BIG THANKS ! But it would be great to see the original version, maybe it would be a good extra ?

I like the Droid factory sequence in E2

FINALLY.

The series should end 12 years ago, that's when it stopped being funny

kenkraly2007 said:

Mrebo said:

And as you admit here, you support anything GL does. That's simply dogmatic and blind to reason. We're not people who dislike Star Wars. We're just honest people who aren't afraid of critiquing poor decisions.

We have no reason to defend or support anything GL does. Only those who wish to maintain an income at LFL do.

Why do some of you wine and complain every time GL makes a change to the films? He has a right to change his films sure some of them are not good you can't please everyone. Sure not everyone is not going to like the changes but it the changes don't take away my enjoyment of the films.

I must tell you something. I LOVE alternative versions of movies, because they're alternative versions. I love e.g. the extended cut of Aliens, and I think it's better than the theatrical cut. But the fact is that I have the freedom to chose which of the versions I'm going to watch, because BOTH versions are commercially available in great quality, in the last releases they're even on the same disc !

The people who prefer the extended version can watch the extended version. The people who prefer the theatrical version can watch the theatrical version, and in the last Quadrilogy DVD & BluRay releases it means only selecting a different menu item.

And the most important thing is THE ORIGINAL VERSION IS PRESERVED.

George Lucas treats his films differently. He keeps changing them with every release. In the VHS days he only changed the colouring of some scenes, or the audio mix, but since the "digital days" he keeps changing the CONTENT of the movies. The original versions are NOT officially released (just a bad copy of the 1993 version) and NOT PRESERVED, and Lucas tries to do everything for persuade everybody to forget that they ever existed.

That's the main reason we keep on bitching. That's the main reason why this website exists. To persuade the main man that he should release BOTH versions.

Kenkraly - you are being called "a troll" because you behave like a typical internet troll. You are repeating the same stuff again and again and again, most of the time to completely inappropriate discussions.

It's OK that you like the special editions, I have nothing against them. The problem is that even the special editions are released in a version full of errors. It's nice that they corrected SOME errors for the blu-ray release, it REALLY is. But WHY did they correct only something and not EVERYTHING ?  They surely had enough time in the last 14 years, didn't they ?

Problem 2 - you will never find 2 identical home releases. Why can't George make some damned "final cut" of each movie and never touch it again ? And the main question - why can't we have 2 versions of each movie on the discs ?

The blu-rays are GOOD. But they could be PERFECT.  And the sad thing is that I enjoyed watching the deleted scenes and documentaries MUCH MUCH MORE than I enjoyed the movie discs. And that's really sad :-(

doubleofive said:

I'm not 100% sure, but if its powered over the USB I don't think it will draw much more than your computer does when its plugged in.

Actually only the 2.5" USB discs are powered from USB, the 3.5" USB discs need a "normal" external power supply.

I had a "small" fire here a couple of years ago so since then I'm very careful :)

can an external 3.5" USB drive eat ? I'm thinking about buying a 3TB WD My Book Essential (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=240 ) but I'm wondering how much electrical power does it use.

Bingowings said:

They were way ahead of their time though and allowed the writers to tell the sort of story you only ever got in space opera novels and Star Wars.

People seem to forget just how groundbreaking that show was in so many aspects of television production.

I agree. Both Roddenberry shows were really revolutionary in many aspects, DS9, VOY and ENT were just "another sci-fi show"

>> Especially since I'm in a PAL territory here, and I've read that the PAL version of GOUT is nothing but a converted NTSC transfer.

Well if I understood this thread correctly, http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Whats-missing-from-GOUT/topic/6725/ they ARE different - check the screenshots later in the discussion.

But if you want a good representation of the OOT and want an OFFICIAL release, get the 2006 DVDs (if you don't mind its problems)

FrederikOlsen said:

... If you think it's also the best legit representation of the OOT available in terms of A/V quality...

No, it isn't.

The colours are completely wrong (desaturated and red-shifted) - check this for example : http://savestarwars.com/goutcorrect.html

The "binary sunset" is blue, instead of orange, the scene where R2 was captured was artificially darkened, etc.  - see this http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Colortiming-Cinematography-was-What-changes-was-done-to-STAR-WARS-in-93/topic/9805/

The audio used for the GOUT release is NOT the theatrical audio, but a brand new sound mix (well with "new" I mean "created specially for the 1993 release").

The closing credits are different - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Credits-Leaders-Thread-was-Star-Wars-Pre-Re-release-Credit-Change-June-77/topic/12960/

Also the digital noise reduction produced a lot of "ghosting", but otherwise yes, it's an OK representation of the original theatrical version :)

Anyway try to get DarkJedi's V3 project, it corrects most of GOUT's problems and has the original theatrical audio tracks - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Theatrical-Editions-Info-ALL-versions-SEE-FIRST-POST-FOR-INFO-AND-AVAILABILITY/topic/10550/

The Technidisc version of "Episode 4" has very nice colours - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-Special-Widescreen-Edition-Technidisc/topic/13263/ but it's pretty dark.

Also I still like the wonderful EditDroid set, especially for its bonus features