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I would love to get a copy if possible

So … nobody commenting on the AoS finale? I thought it was really great until they did “that thing” in the last minutes 😦 Confusing as hell

Anyway, how is your sex life?

Star Trek Voyager. I hated the show but for some reason I just had to see it, there was a small part of me who thought it will get better, just like TNG or DS9 - both of them started very weak but got better, but then it suddenly stopped.

Star Wars Rebels. The first season was OK, nothing special but enjoyable. Unfortunately I have also watched season 2, not sure why, there were maybe 2 episodes I liked. I don’t even like the opening 2-parter and the closing 2-parter which most of the people claim are good. And the sad thing is that I’ll probably even watch season 3 😦

Game of Thrones. The last season I truly liked was the first one. I don’t even know if I should start watching season 6, all the characters I liked are dead.

Fascinating stuff, thanks a lot.
So now a quick summary, if I understood it all correctly. Let’s do it on an example, e.g. Star Wars.

It has scenes of 3 types :

I) scenes consisting only of live action shots
II) scenes containing some simple visual effects like fade-ins, fade-outs, dissolves etc.
III) scenes containing composite shots created using live action shots and visual effects

If I was the Star Wars editor, I would do …

I) these scenes would be done by cutting and joining the original camera negative
II) these scenes would be created using negative A and B rolls
III) these scenes would be a combination of edited negatives and various optical elements joined together using an optical printer

So we would have properly edited scenes of 3 types, and they would still be negatives - correct? Then we would join these scenes together, and interpositives would be made? Then from these interpositives new internegatives would be printed, and these IN would be the source for theatrical prints?

Correct or complete bull…?

This was seriously cut out of the American version? I think I’ve seen it on VHS when I got it from our local video library (what a mistake it was).

Thanks, I searched for “Star Trek” so “ST” wasn’t found 😃

towne32 said:

Thanks for sharing the HDTV II on myspleen. Would definitely be interested in the other SkyHD caps of the other films, though I realize they might need to be shared via a non-spleen method.

Is it still on the spleen? Because I can’t find it, I only found there a 1080p scan of a theatrical print of III

That’s why I wrote it FEELS perfect and not LOOKS perfect 😃 What I meant was it feels like it was shot on a hot desert planet.

So - they end Carter with that really dumb cliffhanger? I hate it when they do that. They could at least give them a TV movie or something to close all open subplots.

And the second show got cancelled even before they started to shoot it? I don’t really care that much, I wasn’t a fan of blond Xena and that Englishman - I’m not joking, I can’t even remember their names.

But maybe that’s a good thing, and Marvel will try their best to do the only TV show they have left as good as possible instead of “OK”.

BTW why are their Netflix shows so much better? Is it because of the lack of ABC censorship?

DrDre said:

Yes, I noticed it too. The reality is, that any color balancing algorithm uses some criterium to balance the colors. Mine is no different. The second reel has a lot of red/orange in almost every shot, and almost no green, meaning that the colors are pretty biased, and therefore unbalanced:

It’s very difficult to find shots with sufficient amounts of red, green, and blue to calibrate the algorithm. I’m trying to figure out a way around this, but this is a bit of a challenge. The current algorithm is less sensitive to this problem, but as these shots show, apparently still too sensitive.

Am I the only one who thinks this image FEELS perfect? 😃

I keep forgetting - what is the top picture? -1?
Anyway I’d say they’re still too green.

Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:

One thing about the MCU in general though - will the Avengers ever find out Coulson’s alive? It’s been four years and he’s not really been keeping a low profile!

Wasn’t there an episode where he asked that agent from How I Met Your Mother that she never tells Tony Stark he’s allive?

Reading a couple of restoration based threads, I noticed that I probably STILL don’t 100% understand the process. How EXACTLY do you get from shooting a scene to a finished film print? This is something what I “assume”

1. Original camera negatives - basically the film which is inside the camera while shooting the scene
2. Interpositive - basically a negative of the negative from 1)

Now here goes my question - what is used for editing? Are edits done directly on the negatives or on the IPs? I googled a lot and some sources use the term “negative cutter” which would IMHO mean the cuts are done on the negatives itself, however some sources say that the cutting is done on a positive. What is the truth?

3. Internegatives - so if I got it correct, this is again a negative of version 2), correct
4. Positive - release print made out of 3)

Is that correct? In which point is the actual editing being done? I assume it’s either after step 1 or step 2, correct?

And now let’s go even more complicated - what about shots which include optical effects and/or composites? Since this is a Star Wars site, let’s say a Star Wars example - the shot where our heroes look through the window on the cockpit of the Millenium Falcon and see the flying fighter and the Death Star. I remember that this specific scene was explained in some of the documentaries, not sure which one, but from what I remember they combined them using the optical printer, in other words magic. But what did go inside the optical printer? The original negative? The internegative? The interpositive? The “answer positive”? In other words - how many generations away from the negative can we get in such a complex shot as the one I mentioned from Star Wars 77?

And another question 😃 From what I though, original negatives are the film reels which came out of the camera equipment, correct? But many people all over the internet (I think even here on ot.com) use the term to describe a finished shot with integrated optical effects, or is it just me?

And the last question, I promise - what would be the correct term to describe the finished film, properly edited, with all effects and the finished sound track, which would be the “master” for creating duplicates? At least I hope that they’re just doing one “master” from which are theatrical release prints being made.

Sorry for so many questions all at once, I think I have a vague understanding of this topic but I’d really love to be 100% sure I correctly understand what are other people talking about 😃

Thanks

Spiderman from the Raimi movies is a different person than the Spiderman from the Amazing Spiderman movies, who is a different character from the MCU, who is a different character than the Spiderman from the 60’s show, who is a different character than … So no, we don’t know his backstory and it’s weird that Tony Stark suddenly visits a teenager who we never seen before and asks him to help him.

Black Panther - before seeing the trailer I didn’t even know such a superhero exists. After seeing the movie I know he exists and he’s from some fake African country. I know nothing about him as a person and nothing about him as a superhero.

Bucky - you didn’t understand what I was trying to say. Sure, they were friends. What I was trying to say is that in my opinion Steve Rogers had no real reason to chose a guy who is a known mass murderer over people who he knows are actually good, it goes strictly against the character which was shown in the previous movies.

Just to be sure - I have never read any of the comic books, I am judging the characters only from what I’ve seen in the previous MCU movies.

RedLetterMedia review : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJvUTFVqwJQ

I agree with many of their points but they’re way too harsh IMHO

Let’s say they’re basically re-creating (sort of) a famous scene from a very famous Star Wars movie and they even acknowledge it.

The samples look fantastic

CatBus said:

Dangit, it just occurred to me that I’d been slowly collecting the Slovak dubs off the DeEd’s, because I don’t have the whole set myself. I had ESB and ROTJ. And with SW 2.7… I still don’t 😦

Yes, I noticed that. I think I did send a copy to Harmy and he used it in 2.5, didn’t he?

I’ve seen it last night. Short version - it’s good. It’s not excellent, but it’s not bad, it’s just “good”.
Long version -
Good things :

• pacing is done correctly, the movie is fast when it needs to be fast and it’s slow when it needs to be slow.
• action - every action scene in the movie (at there’s a lot of them) is GREAT.
• effects - most of the time I had no clue what is real and what’s CG, which is a GOOD thing and a huge improvement to Age of Ultron
• the whole movie is entertaining
• nice Star Wars homage / rip-off

Bad things :

• new characters are not developed properly, basically they’re not developed at all. I think they made a huge mistake that they didn’t do solo movies for Spiderman and Black Panther before this movie.
• what the hell are exactly the powers of Scarlett Witch and Vision? Every single time they did something I was just staring at the screen confused. I know her powers were introduced with “weird” in Ultron but did Vision have these powers? Explain, movie !
• Spiderman. Not sure how anybody can like him. I am a huge fan of the character and the Raimi movies, and I hated Spiderman in this movie. He was almost as annoying as Jar Jar Binks. You are watching something which should be an emotional battle between close friends and the tone gets suddenly interrupted by Spiderman acting nervous, clumsy, or throwing some funny one liners. For the first (and maybe second) time it was quite funny, but as he kept on continuing I was seriously like “Shut the f up!”
• Captain America was portrait as a complete asshole in this movie. I liked him in the previous movies, Chris Evans has portrayed the most charismatic superhero since Chris Reeves’s Superman, but in this movie he basically abandons all his friends, and his government to basically help a serial killer who used to be his friend decades ago. The real Captain America as developed in the previous movies would try to arrest him and trust the system. The new captain just fights his friends without any good reason. Even in the trailer Tony says with an confused voice “So was I …” when Cap says “He’s my friend”.
• Deaths - not wanting to spoil anything, so let’s just say I’m not satisfied with the deaths in this movie
• the villain. Oh yes, there’s a villain in this movie. Why? I don’t know. He’s the most pointless villain I have ever seen in a movie (ANY movie, not just MCU movies), this is the first time when I think that cutting out the villain out of the movie would actually improve the movie.

Overall a good movie, but not the masterpiece most people call it.

So … 2 negative reviews and tons of positive reviews? I am quite a critical person so I’m quite curious to see it now 😃

What about reading the first post?

The Tantive 4 shots look fantastic. The Tatooine shots would need IMHO a bit more saturation, but that’s just my opinion, I’m not claiming it “should” be saturated 😃

That’s great, you even managed to restore detail on the girl’s clothes which was originally way too dark

The only version I know Adywan made was 480i and not 100% theatrical - it had the added bridge and maybe some other leftovers from the DVD.